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· @xeldal ·
$1,065.65
Add a "Steemit" button. In addition to Up and Down vote.
Give greater flexability to the steemit experience. Strengthen brand. Keep natural feeling of up/down voting. Add "steemit" (something new)

There was some talk about including a simple metric of the number of up and down votes on a post/comment, like you'd see on reddit, apart from the rewards metric we have have now displayed as $$$.  I think this is a good idea but I'd take it a step further

I'd like to suggest keeping the up and down vote buttons, but have them only affect the simple front-end based reddit style metric.   In addition to this we could have a "Steemit" button that is essentially what the up vote does currently.   It would trigger positive rewards.   

The reason Im suggesting this is because currently the feeling I have when deciding whether to upvote or downvote something is too complicated internally because there is a dollar reward associated with it.  I'd like to be able to just throw an up or down vote out there as a simle "like" / "dislike" and have it not really affect the post/comments rewards.  While if it's truly valuable I might also "steemit".   You could then put a red "X" or something in the corner out of the way for something equivalent to the current downvote negative rewards.

So a post might have more downvotes(dislikes) then upvotes(likes) but still get a steem reward because it was a valuable contribution. 

Is this an unnecessary distinction/change?  Good idea / Bad idea?  Would it affect how you use steemit?  Would it lessen how often the steem rewards function is used?  Do you see any benefit to separating the upvote and positive steem rewards; separating the downvote from negative steem rewards?
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@dantheman ·
$54.96
I think this would be good, the only difference I would make is that "upvote" means 1% VP and "steemit" means 100% vote power.  This way they still get something from getting a lot of upvotes.
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@ash ·
sounds like a plan
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@bitcube ·
We may even have the +5% back ie with a 5%VP.
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@seneka ·
Will be  good
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@valtr ·
That would be more fair.
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@liondani ·
$132.67
I would put 5 white stars that transformed to 1,2,3,4 or 5 yellow stars like giving feedback on ebay !!!
1 star   20% vote power
2 stars 40% vote power
3 stars 60% vote power
4 stars 80% vote power
5 stars 100% voting power

or you could even use the steem logo instead of the stars!  like on slack with :steem: Add reaction
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@elmubareki ·
Has become natural @liondani
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@joshvel ·
what happened to this suggestion?
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@liondani ·
$194.06
Here is a visualization of my idea... 
![](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XPu0EZyzWuk/VzJOYUBhhAI/AAAAAAAADmo/asP2vyM_yU4iEL4su0moGOtpbj-IIzg7gCLcB/s1600/steemit_ebay.png)
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@dantheman ·
I agree that looks nice... for people with a mouse. We will need to come up with a solution for people with fat fingers.
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@liondani ·
not to mention that giving 5 "steems" reminds us our historical +5 meme  :)
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@liondani ·
$0.19
Right click on the image and click "View Image" to see it in the original size....
I don't know why it appears now smaller on the response than before(?)
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@tuck-fheman ·
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Great idea!
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@markopaasila · (edited)
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This is similar to what I have [observed](https://steemit.com/steem/@markopaasila/does-context-skew-our-voting-habits). Maybe the *steemit* button could mean "bookmark to steem". Voting up or down is too easy, but bookmarking or sharing indicates some actual value, and as such could be given greater voting power.

If the subject is negative like some disgusting news, it might still be valuable. This makes voting hard because you associate *upvote* with *like*. Maybe an algorithm that identifies controversial posts and boosts their total votes if the sum is positive. A controversial conversation might be valuable. I don't know..
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@najoh ·
I totally agree with you, for example i would like to be able to like nice boobs but i don't want to reward them with dollars. Also some posts are quite nice and useful but don't merit high rewards. We should be able to jauge the power of our votes.
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@smooth ·
$91.98
I'd caution about information overload and too many choices leading to non-participation. If it is very easy to click an upvote/downvote button, so you likely get very wide participation and wisdom of crowd results. Adding more requires more thought and will likely lead to less overall participation. Facebook studied for a long time before adding anything more than "Like" and now while there are more choices, like is still the easy and conspicuous default. 

Also rating with "stars" is very unclear. For example, in many contexts (e.g., amazon marketplace, most movie ratings, etc.), a one star rating a _bad_ rating (essentially a downvote).
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@liondani ·
$0.19
*Also rating with β€œstars” is very unclear. For example, in many contexts (e.g., amazon marketplace, most movie* *ratings, etc.), a one star rating a bad rating (essentially a downvote).*

Actually we could do exactly this! Remove totally the down-vote button since it is clear that  the first star is ALWAYS a negative vote, I can't think of any example where it has positive impact.... so we could for example: (please elaborate further)
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that way(logarithmic) we are more "positive" weighted... we don't have the the negative psychology about down-voting but still "indirectly" (without knowing it) the community practically still down-votes bad content... (yep, facebook has a strong reason not to have a dislike button, we don't need to invent the wheel again and make costly researches when others already have do it)
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@markopaasila ·
$0.18
How about a possibility to click the upvote from 1 to 5 times, with the green color of the button starting from very light to dark green. That would be only one button and also bypass the negative perception of 1/5 stars.
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@liondani ·
plus it would be a less problem for people with fat fingers :)
 Maybe implement it only for the mobile friendly steemit versions and not for the desktop version?
What concerns me is how they figure out they have the option to click again the button?And what happens if they press the button 3 times instead of 2 times?  I think problems like this would be solved if we can change our vote like I am describing on my response to this post https://steemit.com/steem/@dantheman/proposed-changes-to-voting-rules https://steemit.com/steem/@dantheman/proposed-changes-to-voting-rules   

PS I would like to have an option to have a link for the responses (would need that now)
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@valtr ·
If technically possible, this solution will help better sort posts and enable to reward only those of special interest of the user.
I would gladly upvote a nice photo of kitten but reward give to a post in help section. Other reader will do it opposite.
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