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· @steembirds ·
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Are Bid Bots The Only Way?
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# 😎 Bid Bots 😎

Lots of people hate bid bots
We wanna know if they’re ok or not
Cause every post on the trending page
Is only there cause someone paid...
A bot, a bot, a bot, a bot
Is that ok or not?

Are bid bots the only way?
The SteemBirds hit the trending page
Paying STEEM to get votes back
Will this plan bite us in the ass
In the ass
In the ass

Is this a way to promote ourselves
Or just another way to give whales more wealth
Maybe when the future comes
Maybe everyone will run... 
A bot, a bot, a bot, a bot
Is that ok or not?

Are bid bots the only way?
The SteemBirds hit the trending page
Paying STEEM to get votes back
Will this plan bite us in the ass
In the ass
In the ass
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@abu-bokor ·
Wonderful funny post 
Thank you so much My Dear steemit friend
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@aleatory · (edited)
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**Aleatory comment:** When you're poor and can't pay for a bidbot.

It's okay.

I'm fine.
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@aliasnoa ·
that's actually awesome to know ! thanks for sharing :)
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@amiohi ·
WOW! This is a nice song about Bid bots and steemit.
good job bro.
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@annesaya ·
$0.13
lol! you're fantastic
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@aphours ·
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I think it is ok to use bids bot. It helps new steemians like me to grow. Help me. Huhuhu
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @steembirds!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steemit Hit Parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20180610) in the following categories:

* Comments - Ranked 5 with 195 comments
* Pending payout - Ranked 4 with $ 714,06
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@arepadigital ·
Hahahahaha this is freaking awesome!!
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@armincopp ·
:D
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@artedellavita ·
$0.06
Never used them... I think it’s unfair to do so.☺️
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@artwatch ·
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"If you have the money you can stay and do well here.  If you are one of those people that tries to do it with just hard work and passion...good luck with that." says Steemit.  We will burry you until you can pay.

I have to admit it is my least favorite aspect of Steemit.  A high pay for play staked game.  

I liked it when the social aspect had more of an effect instead of just throwing money at it.

I liked the content more when it was about quality instead of bought votes.

Personally, I think it effects how the platform is viewed from the outside.  People coming in could be looking at work that got to the top on public opinion alone instead of a weighted wallet.

I try not to use the bots unless it is for another user or for a contest otherwise it would not be seen.

On another note where is my #freethenipple songπŸ˜‹πŸ˜˜
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@dan-atstarlite ·
$0.23
Yeah, I personally think we're just going through a "bit bot" phase. It's not my favourite Steemit phase but it is interesting. I really like the idea of moving toward account based voting... that might be the best solution.
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@artwatch ·
It is kinda interesting watching different seasons of steemit evolve. One always has to be up with the times ha ha.  One moment something can be good - but two months later and it is crippiling something we didn't expect. Steemit is a delicate beast at times, it never seems to know what it wants to do with itself.
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@artwatch ·
$0.02
So how much did you put down on this post all total for bots?
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@freebornangel ·
Ask @transparencybot,....
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@bbrewer ·
$0.88
You had me at bots.https://youtu.be/TbnrHNqyBO8
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@betgames · (edited)
Lol! You guys rock! Bid bots might bite us in the ass but not the betgame bot!

Check out our first Bet Game - Cricket - Australia vs England which is already on.

https://steemit.com/betgames/@betgames/betting-game-1-cricket-aus-vs-eng-jun-13-2018#comments

and start betting!

Happy betting,
@betgames
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@betgames ·
You guys rock! Loved it! Looks like buying vote is going to bite us in the ass, lol!

@betgames
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@betooven ·
great job ^^
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@booster ·
<p>This post has received a 41.12 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @steembirds.</p>
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@brianphobos ·
$0.25
Another timeless classic from the @steembirds !  SteemBirds Rock!
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@dan-atstarlite ·
Thanks man! We keep trying 😎
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@brianxv ·
$0.04
I've had that same thought...ethically I think its fine if you say that you bought votes...
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@butherface ·
hahahahha funny bro!
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@captainobviou3 ·
$1.62
That was hilarious. So...is it ok to use bid bots..or no...LOL
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@bmanmcfly ·
Unless you are already famous, or ultra patient to build up a following... I'm not quite sure how else to go about it...

What's worse IMO is that these bid bots seem to be taking most of the curation rewards as well...
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@dan-atstarlite ·
$0.54
Exactly lol, let's get the discussion rolling. What does everyone think?
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@orisfina ·
$0.05
Presently until whales and dolphins starts curating new babies with quality post the only way to survive is to use the bid bots.

I write motivational /inspirational post yet I have no audience and there are those who doesn't write up to me and they have enough attention.

So tell me if I have enough money why wouldn't I use bid bots?
Or what's your say? Let's keep it rolling
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@teamhumble ·
$0.35
personally i don't like or use bid bots. it's like walking into a pub of people you don't know and buying everyone a drink so that they like you. just my 2 cents.
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@koto ·
$1.37
Is it okay to run bid bot... or not?
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@richardgreen ·
In my opinion, the Bots have taken the enjoyment out of Steemit.  I wanted to Post and share some activities I enjoy and build up a following and maybe make a little money.  It seems like nobody up votes and more and almost every time I use a Bot I lose a little bit of money.
I do not understand how a system, Bots, can survive by taking in more money than they pay out
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@cardboard ·
Lol, you guys are crazy :D tipuvote!
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@chayen ·
ahahaha great
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@clearbluecrypto ·
Im not a fan of bid bots. You will lose money. I have lost money using bid bots. 
I just wrote an article on it about 1 hour ago.

https://steemit.com/crypto/@clearbluecrypto/upvote-bots-are-not-a-consistent-means-of-earning-passive-income
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@cloudspyder ·
$0.05
Me I have no provlem with bid bots. It's ok for me if everyone have it as long as it add value to the community.
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@connecteconomy ·
LOL this debate is so much more fun when it's sung by you guys! 
Thanks for the laugh :D
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@jaybird ·
Heh, thanks! We agree!
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@diogosantos ·
The real question is: Will this plan bite us in the S? :D

I'm assuming that all of those votes from the accounts ownerΒ΄s of the bots are here from free will!! (not really)
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@dnews ·
$0.20
Wahahaha!!! This is GOLD!!! This is bitcoin!!!
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@dan-atstarlite ·
Haha, thanks man!
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@ekafao ·
I was Upvote your posting. Please Upvote my posting at:
https://steemit.com/id-id/@ekafao/tangisan-polos-seorang-anak-b733fa0b157c6

Thanks
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@elbiasto ·
In my opinion the bid bots have destroyed the Trending page. There is already the function to PROMOTE a Post. That will get your Post to the Promoted page without doing damage to the Reward Pool.  The main Problem is that the Bots keep getting more an more SP every day. So its getting harder and harder to stop  them.
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@jaybird ·
That’s definitely a good point. Most of the t-pg is crap posts. However, bc it’s already been taken over, what r u thoughts on steemians with seemingly β€œgood” content retaking the t-pg by fighting fire with fire?
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@elizahfhaye · (edited)
$0.36
I think bid bots is just for the minnows that need exposure for them to cope up the fast pace of the steaming steem. But many of our fellow steemians including those huge guys are using also bid bots. We just need guidelines and policy on this matter to control the use of bots.
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@emperorofnaps ·
re-steembirds-are-bid-bots-the-only-way-20180610t153004231z
You got a 65.67% upvote from @emperorofnaps courtesy of @steembirds!

Want to promote your posts too? Send 0.05+ SBD or STEEM to @emperorofnaps to receive a share of a full upvote every 2.4 hours...Then go relax and take a nap!
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@tophash ·
@emperorofnaps best post to vote on!
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@empowermite ·
Initially, I hate it, but don't have choice at least for now. When I get to the point I can have some natural vote, I will stop. That is the reason why I am trying to build a team
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@emwalker ·
$0.07
Never spent more than 30 SBD and only once I was on trending - there is a way. This will get there. Very catchy - me likey
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@orisfina ·
There is a way.
1. It depends on the niche
2. The amount of money you have.
Use roughly above 50SBD
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@emwalker ·
Hey thanks for replying - I hear you - but like I said I never use them to get on trending - only use them for those posts once I'm on trending already - will I use minimal amounts of money just to maintain its visibility. I am not a fan of dumping that much money into "promotion" - if I had it I would rather put it towards steempower.
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@emwalker ·
It's not a bad thing - but there is also a level of irony regarding this specific post now being on trending...... Because of bid bots 🀣🀣🀣 - it would belong here regardless - would have liked to see it make it here void of bot usage - again the organic traffic alone should have been enough and then tomorrow or the next day they pump it with bots to maintain its position.
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@steemvive · (edited)
can you please give me upvote for improving my post.. I write and research on cryptoo currency that's why I always try to post a unique article and I need your support because of newbie.. I always share your post and I love your works.. can you please share and vote me..  I will grateful to you
this is my article and I will vote and share your one 
https://steemit.com/esteem/@steemvive/bitcoin-economics-technology-and-governance-c84ca00040a79
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@fishyculture ·
$0.11
So I NEVER even check the trending page because I don't care which posts the bots like best... This is probably the first time I clicked it in several months and I am SO glad I did! Upvoted, resteemed, followed... and drowning in obscurity for not using the bots... lol!
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@jaybird ·
Haha thx.  I only recently started checking it out again too.  I'm of a similar mind ~
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@fnux ·
Β‘Fuck yeah! those fuckers are a pain in the motherfucking ass.
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@freebornangel ·
$0.04
Hiring a bidbot to extort rewards from me by their advantage in the math shows a lack of class.
Thanks to your use of multiple bidbots my rewards were diminished against my will.
Thanks, alot.

If the community wanted you to have rewards they would have voted your content.
Instead of hiring a thug to get you some rewards by the force of the math, you couldve built a following by doing the work, eh?
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@jaybird · (edited)
$0.02
Thanks for your two cents! It's good to have both angles of arguments here! 

I don't believe however that the bots have directly diminished your specific rewards in any way.... I don't see how that would be tbh. 

If you look into bid-bots... most ppl don't actually directly profit from their votes, since you have to pay for them and do not get a guarantee on your investment.  Also, subtract 25% for curation from the post payout lol.  ooo Also it forces you to power up some for your initial investment because you ge paid out in SBD and SP right.  So that's actually 1 good, all be it a small thing. 

Soo... for the most part the bidder loses a portion of their investment but get's promotion in exchange which hopefully draws the organic community attention you mentioned:) 

Typically you either break even, profit a couple bucks or, lose a couple bucks.  At this point, it's become mostly a tool for promoting the posts you believe are "good content" (but as many steemians can probably empathize with) most of the time do not get seen by the larger community these days for various reasons. 

The Bid Bot itself and the investors seem to make some $ tho, & some give portions of the profit to various curation or other initiatives as well ~ 

There's some inherent good and also some inherent bad in the bots from what i can see.  I don't think it will last though.  It suxs that in order to use them effectively you require some significant capital. 
 most new users won';t be able to use them in this way which is negative. But Bid-Bots probably won't last, not the way they are dominating Steemit currently. 

If the community doesn't like the content being bumped up by bots, they will and do  flag it.  That's what it's there for right?! ;)
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@freebornangel ·
$0.04
>I don't believe however that the bots have directly diminished your specific rewards in any way.... I don't see how that would be tbh.

Then you dont understand the math.
Your mentors have left this part of your steem education out because they want you playing the game their way and not the way it actually is.
The same reason nobody mentioned the .02 rewards round down in the two years before it got made known publicly.
I had been told that the vests still credited, but that was inaccurate.
I need to go back and find who told me that misinformation, and call them on it.

The less sp actively voted raises the value of the remaining sp.
This is what the whale experiment was about, until stinc put the kibosh on it and gave us pay to play.
If only one vote is cast, it gives the entire pool.
If it has 10sp or 10m sp.
But, if one 10sp and one 10m sp vote gets cast the 10sp vote gets rounded down, 'Sorry Mr. Poor Person this game is for rich people, you should get a job, and put in some overtime!'

When @ned delegates 1m sp to his favorites the value they dole out comes from every user that receives a vote.
Which may be funny if you dont need the money anyway, but not so funny to the venezuelans.

When @curie was favored with their delegation and applied rules that excluded my content from consideration they effectively robbed me of a little value from every vote I've gotten.
When @dtube votes 100's of sbd to a video, those sbd come from 100's of newbs getting nothing.
The less sp voted for you, the less defense you have against having your rewards rounded down by bullies taking advantage of their power in the math.

You dont have to take my word for it, ask @paulag, she didnt believe me, neither.

So, allow me to thank you for all the minnows that got their rewards rounded down so you could tickle your funny bone.
:flips a bird:
:eyeballs you too bidbot owners:
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@peterkrackpotkin ·
$0.07
Bid bots are for those who know that the idealist is dead.
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@freebornangel ·
$0.05
Or want to see them dead,...
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@fuadalmuswa ·
Nice..!
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@gtg ·
$0.17
That's the only bidbotted-trending-entry that I liked so far.
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@jaybird ·
Haha, we are humbled to hear that gtg 😎😎🀘
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@guruvaj ·
Humans have always a tendency to get lazy, (i.e innovate, automate, progress) there is always to side of the coin here. One is efficiency, and the other is accuracy. I use bid bot since they always do what i wanted, on the other hand, it can be abused, using it from other means, or it no longer identifies what should be done.
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@gvincentjosephm ·
Bid-bots is not the only way but is sure is one way :D
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@hanen ·
<b>"Cause every post on the trending page
Is only there cause someone paid"</b>

I love it! And it is true, because money is power, isnt it! You pay, you get what you want :) 
Well until now I think they are the only way, unless a miracle happens :)
I love your work, keep it up!
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@jaybird ·
Yeap, it definitely seems like the only way to get a piece of content you believe in on the trending pg!
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@idiongo ·
I believe the purpose of this platform is to build relationships through effective communication of ideas and collaboration with friends while making an income for our efforts in achieving this. bots no doubt bring returns but may ultimately defeat the purpose of this platform in the near future. - That's what i think though.
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@jaybird ·
Ya that definitely seems like a potential danger !
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@imransoudagar ·
Hahah... This is funny. I have seen a few videos by you and I enjoyed every one of them.

And if funny content like yours gets on the trending page with the help of bitd bots then I am okay with them.
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@jaybird ·
haha Thanks mon!
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@ionutciobanu ·
I do not know the answer @steembirds, but I assume that not using them in any post will bring more benefits to everyone because the votes will be given to the articles we like and do not just go into trading page .
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@janetroy ·
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@javo1096 ·
As a newbie this is the kind of content related discussion I need to see in a platform where I know so little. Are bid bots ok? Maybe the song didn't answer the question but it definitely opened a long debate, and that's what make ideas grow and evolve, to talk about them and accept their pros and cons.
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@jfitmisc ·
$0.24
Let the free market decide. I use bid bots sometimes! Other times I don't. People on Youtube pay to promote their videos all the time!
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@jigstrike ·
$0.06
What the heck did I just read? Can I have the last minute of my life back?
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@jaybird ·
It took you a minute to read the lyrics...?! YIKES! You probably should have just watched the performance of the song instead j/k ;) 
 
Unfortunately humans cannot go back in time...  Sry to hear you didn't like our commentary on the state of bid-bots on Steemit :(
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@jojitolavoz ·
hola hermanazos! muy buen video me encanta sigan asi! saludos desde buenos aires, argentina.
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@joshvel ·
$0.02
This post I believe is not an abuse to bidbots, it deserves to be on the trending page...I really like the song. Congrats @steembirds...
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@journeyoflife ·
$1.39
Maybe the bid bots are here to stay 
It seems like a game everyone wants to play. 

Great work indeed :D
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@dan-atstarlite ·
Thanks! I imagine it's just another Steemit phase... but who knows lol
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@kurosoft ·
I upvote and follow you please return back
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@kurosoft ·
I upvote and follow you please return back https://steemit.com/@kurosoft
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@lecuong2290 ·
thαΊ­t tuyệt vời. TΓ΄i muα»‘n học hỏi bαΊ‘n rαΊ₯t nhiều
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@leggy23 ·
$0.21
I say it’s totally ok.
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@baah ·
-You would, you have no qualm about self-voting, so much for curation. What would it look like if everyone only self-voted? Will reputation matter at all then? Have you heard the parable of the long spoons?
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@jaybird ·
That's never going to happen... There will always be some ppl who only ever self vote.. That's a small minority IMO>
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@leggy23 ·
I occasionally self vote and that’s my choice as to how I use my upvote. I more that support minnows here, go on my channel and see before you start making claims.
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@leggy23 ·
Nice song by the way.
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@lochflush ·
$0.07
Hilarious! xD Anyone care to explain how bid bots work? Just started this week.
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@steembirds ·
Here's the main hub https://steembottracker.com
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@londanny · (edited)
I'm new to this platform and to be honest bid bots kind of defeats the purpose of this platform. I suppose it happens on Facebook and at least the people on the other end that use there influence get paid direct. I'm new to it and will have a go. For example, how do I use a bot? Where do I start? Can I be a bot? This Steemit world is hard man. When I think Ive got it bam something new comes up
![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcVpmfBpkdm1J42ij5mideUCaSYvGWc2U5DDjanAcNY98/image.png)
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@jaybird ·
Check here: https://steembottracker.com/
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@techwizardry ·
Yep, Smartsteem's whitelisting solves the problem of spammers and scammers. I would imagine  most of the bots will eventually go with that kind of filtering system.
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@peterkrackpotkin ·
$0.07
You need to have a very large investment in steem to have a bot and then you have to know how to write one or borrow/steal someone elses code and run it yourself. then you need a server to run it 24/7. If you are not that technical and still wish to invest a large amount into steem you can also sell your Steem power to a vote bot, increasing the bots power and taking a share of the profits. Check out smartsteem.
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@luca1777 ·
$0.09
Lol :)  Great job, steembirds!
Well, here is the answer:
It's about use , not abuse ;)
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@ludwikk ·
It was funny but the bots should not be used  :)
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@magda.lena ·
Hahhaa, this is sooo funny :D
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@magic8ball ·
$0.03
To the question in your title, my Magic 8-Ball says:<blockquote>You may rely on it</blockquote><hr>*Hi! I'm a bot, and this answer was posted automatically. Check [this post out](https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@magic8ball/introducing-the-magic-8-ball-bot) for more information.*
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@manzo · (edited)
β›” this will kill this platform. there are couple issues in steemit! if you have money, you have power to downvote, upvote,...  the rich gets richer and the poor with good content are struggling⚠️
it needs some updates ⚠️✌️

🚫bidbots
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@marjanko ·
@steembirds 
The most clever idea, I have ever seen. Fantastic job on the lyrics and when you start singing: "Will this plan bite us in the ass"" 
YOU JUST MADE MY DAY. 
Hope to see more, of your crazy work.
With love, @marjanko
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@jaybird ·
Hah thanks so much for the kind words! Glad u got the wit and hunour of it all.
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@marjanko ·
Hope to see more songs like that. Keep up the good workπŸ€πŸ€˜β€οΈ
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@mellissa2 ·
"Are bid bots the only way?
The SteemBirds hit the trending page
Paying STEEM to get votes back
Will this plan bite us in the ass
In the ass
In the ass"....really hilarious πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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@meno ·
$0.07
Epic my friends... resteem from me!! hahahah
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@metama ·
$0.06
No..... But kind of. Right now I think boys are the ONLY way to get in trending. Doesn't have to be his way, but they have too much influence to be stopped. IMO, bots are positive, BUT, I would love to see separate trending pages for promoted and non-promotes content

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@moonbot ·
My response [here](https://steemit.com/bidbots/@moonbot/re-tonyr-are-bid-bots-good-for-steemit-yes-or-no-best-argument-for-each-position-wins-5-steem-20180610t210403241z).
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@naconc · (edited)
Good song @steembirds, I enjoyed it excellent, THANKS for sharing!
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@nafs ·
Wow, that's so greet! Nice to meet you guys πŸ˜…
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@nahin007 ·
i think bid bot is ok for some people.but not for everyone.
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@nightcreature ·
Haha I don't know if this is good or bad, but I kind of like it ;). Funny lyrics! Keep rockin' :)
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@obulunmaz ·
Waiting for a cover :) Who wanna ?

it is not our brother who deny that it is very creative :)))
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@offvic ·
A bot, a bot, a bot,
In the ass, in the ass, in the ass @steembirds you are funny, you made a point having fun.
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@orisfina ·
$0.50
I personally don't hate bid bots.
It all depends on how you use it, its only bad when its abused. I see it as a way of promoting your content( good and creative content) . When you are on board no one knows and at times the babies usually have quality content. If you want to wait without using bid bot you might never be recognized.

The bottom line is this: If you have good contents and you have the money I advice you to use the bid bots. 

NOTE: NOTHING THAT WILL NOT BE ABUSE IN THIS WORLD. MONEY SPEAKS THATS WHY MAJORITY ARE ABUSING BID BOTS
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@baah ·
You cannot abuse the Promote Function that is built into steem, regardless of how much money you have, because it's designed to be a net benefit, but when you buy what people give out for free, and help such a demand increase you're abusing the function of curation, which is supposed to reward people and not used for people to reward themselves, that is why we have a flagging function, when people vote themseves they deserve a counter flag and the line between a self-voting is thin, either you're doing it to move your comment up for visibility, or undo a flag that wasn't warranted, or you are doing it to pay yourself, and if everyone did that there wouldn't be any more sense to curation, it will only be voturbation. Vote selling, vote buying, and self-voting are all abusive, and many times it's as obvious as day and night,  and if you're here primarily to make money or buy your friends and connections than you've missed the point of it IMO.
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@jaybird ·
I don't think there is anything wrong with self voting your content.  Especially if you spent lot of time creating it and it's "good." I would have a problem with it, if for example you never voted on anyone else's content...At the point as you said "the line" has been crossed.
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@orisfina ·
You aren't getting my point...
You are taking it personally.

We are only sharing our personal thoughts towards the issue, lets not be sentimental .
It hasn't gotten to that
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@dan-atstarlite ·
$0.04
Yeah, it's nice to know that if you believe you have good content, there is a way to get it seen. That was never the case before bid bots
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@orisfina ·
$0.08
Yes because there was enough content curators then.
Now we just have a bunch of whales simply upvoting themselves
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@gtg ·
$0.13
D is for Decentralized.
The platform will look exactly in a way **YOU** make it.
You said in the comment that's because of _"whales simply upvoting themselves"_.
I'm not a whale, I don't even post much, and I've never used a bid bot... (and just recently I flagged few cases of excessive bid bot usage with my negligible SP)   but the reality is not that simple as you are saying.
Look at your own voting example: ( 65.96 % self, 47 upvotes, 13 accounts, last 7d ) (source: [steemworld.org](https://steemworld.org)). Saying that "others do that" is a really bad excuse. Especially that deeds on the blockchain stays forever.
And yes, you are right, there are no evil tools, it all depends  on how you use them, that includes various paid voting services (actually calling it "bidbots" is very unprecise, as that's just a subset)

I think that the best alternative for voting bots when it comes to content visibility is a cooperation of a professional and honest **manual** curators and high staked investors powered by some ways of automation like curation trails on steroids.
That, plus maybe changing author reward split from 75%/25% to something towards 60%/40% or even 50%/50% can in a long run make original, high quality contnet stand out from the crowd and improve the platform.
Low quality content on a trending page makes us look silly.
If we say to the world (through the trending page) that some garbage is worth 1000 STEEM on our platform, then how much they can value STEEM? What profit you will make earning 1000 STEEM if STEEM itself would be worthless?
Also @baah is making a fair point with highly undervalued **PROMOTED** feature, which needs some more love.
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@jakipatryk ·
$0.06
> That, plus maybe changing author reward split from 75%/25% to something towards 60%/40% or even 50%/50% can in a long run make original, high quality contnet stand out from the crowd and improve the platform.

I think 50/50 split would be a great experiment, but this idea has been already discussed for some time and based on my observation, a majority of users like it (dunno if a majority of stake tho).

So I have a question - when should we expect this change? I assume it requires a hard fork (correct me if I'm wrong), so maybe HF20 would be a good fit?
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@passion-ground · (edited)
$0.30
Okay, so I'm "old school."  I never vote for myself because, well, it just doesn't seem quite proper...  It's sorta like a form of masturbation, which is fine insofar as far as masturbation is concerned,  it's cool and all, but not so far as stroking one's content is concerned.  Ha-hahaa...  You guys rock, man...  at the end of the day, it's all about telling the truth as we see it - and I love the way you two go about revealing relevant questions that many of us need to ask ourselves.   With that, I'll leave you guy's with this...    https://youtu.be/_KnrX3eEFSc  The whole world is shaking now, I can feel it.  Oh, and don't let the truth bite you in the ass!  lol...  :-)  You guys rock! :-)
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@dan-atstarlite ·
Thanks man! So far are asses are fine... but yeah we like to stick them out from time to time.
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@postpromoter ·
re-steembirds-are-bid-bots-the-only-way-20180610t154151528z
You got a 16.50% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @steembirds!

Want to promote your posts too? Check out the [Steem Bot Tracker website](https://steembottracker.com) for more info. If you would like to support the development of @postpromoter and the bot tracker please [vote for @yabapmatt for witness!](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=yabapmatt&approve=1)
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@tophash ·
@postpromoter test post 
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@practicaleric ·
$0.02
Great tune guys...this made my day :)
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@programmingvalue ·
$0.11
Seriously though, we need a better and more ways to advertise on Steem through paying SBD
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@rahotep666 ·
y'all seem to be getting popular with all this ass bot talk
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@rebeccabe ·
Lol...great job
I have been waiting for someone to write this. 
At last haha!
Well, the bid bots paid off for you with this song.  Fun tune.
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@redskylullaby ·
$0.03
I'm pretty new and may be wrong but it seems Steemit as a platform and Steem as a cryptocurrency derives value from the quality of content creation and the stability and growth of the platform will only be sustainable if there is quality content that people want to read and engage with. The users of Steemit are in a sense the owners of it, both figuratively and because of their monetary investment literally also. Most platforms have someone at the helm steering the ship but it seems to some extent Steem is a conglomerate of large and small influencers with varying degrees of self interest that all have a stake but the ship ends up sailing whrever the tides go. It seems right now there is not enough incentive in the long term platform value investment (that is increasing/rewarding quality content) vs the short term money to be made by selling votes. Hopefully the tide will turn on this or someone or some groups working behind the scenes are going to grab the wheel at some point
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@freebornangel ·
The wheel was grabbed, but stinc hardforked to bring us here.
Some of the responsible whales flagged the abusive whales and stinc enabled vote selling and negated the experiment so that the abusive whales could continue.
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@resuscitate ·
$0.25
The truth is that sometimes you just can't help it. When you keep creating quality posts that you think may trend and no one is giving a f*ck about your so called quality post, you just have to do what they others are doing. But I don't think such practice will benefit the community in the long run
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@jaybird ·
Ya totally!
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@roxane ·
Did you really pay for all theses bidbots loooool ??? :D This amount of money is so huge :D What's the real benefice you are going to have of it ? 
I never used any bots, so I don't really know if it's efficient or not (in term of money). And I am not planning of paying for it neither (it's a fake feeling of accomplishement)
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@jaybird ·
$0.05
It was the only way for The Steembirds to hit the trending page... 

Most ppl don’t make money off the actual bot votes (since u pay for em), however it does allow u to gain a lot of exposure apparently and thus gain follows who otherwise would probably not have come across ur content. ..

It’s kinda a double edges sword :/
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@roxane ·
$0.05
That's a pity that the only way to hit the trending page for you guys @jaybird ... 
You deserve it ! <div class="pull-right"><sub><a href="https://steemit.com/@fast-reply">Sent with Fast-Reply</a></sub></div>
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@rykoson ·
$0.02
Debating on using them myself!
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@safetony ·
@exyle said it best in one of his reason videos and it's true you make more money voting for yourself than using bidbots, with people looking to make a return on their investment by staking their token bots are the only real alternative so until we come up with something better it's self voting or bots
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@sams-world ·
$0.17
will steemit ever change this? I believe as it is now, it is not in the highest interest of Steemit itself. I believe the platform would do better to promote the "best" content. It would encourage the creators to just simply produce amazing content... That would be a place I'd love to hang out (even more)..
Any predictions?
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@dan-atstarlite ·
$0.08
I predict Steemit will let the experiment play out. Until something obviously better comes along... like account based voting with oracles
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@saviib ·
Great song lol, loved it!
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@shihtzuposting ·
I just got here so I have no idea, but nice
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@shirleyhenderson ·
Hi there!
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@silentscreamer ·
$0.08
Haha. You guys always make me laugh. 
Are bid bots ok? Sure they are, are they good for the platform, well i think you know the answer to that question. haha.
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@jaybird ·
Glad to hear it ;) and ya there seems to be a lot of opinions about it which is great.
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@skitto ·
![unnamed (3).gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUwsG6d3rhf6CLYssJ1Lcmx17saSJ7oMbcnWcDsCKZSb5/unnamed%20(3).gif)
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@skycornish ·
$0.14
Bidbots are literally ruining STEEM
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@slider2990 ·
$0.09
This will become a classic poem.  :)

Thanks for sharing.
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@sneaky-ninja ·
re-steembirds-are-bid-bots-the-only-way-20180610t152734366z
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Sneaky Ninja Attack! You have just been defended with a 33.53% upvote!
I was summoned by @steembirds. I have done their bidding and now I will vanish...

woosh
A portion of the proceeds from your bid was used in support of youarehope and tarc.

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@stackin ·
This was the best πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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@jaybird ·
hehe ThX!
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@steeminer4up ·
So funny! That's Ok. Use bot as you wish. πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘Œ
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@steemvive ·
great post I think... this the best  steemian
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@steevc ·
$0.48
Now you put me in a quandary. I love the song, oh those harmonies, but I don't generally support posts that trend on paid bots. I'd love to see the trending page with posts that the community actually liked. There are [alternative trending pages](https://steem-sincerity.dapptools.info/trending).

But as it's you guys I'll give you a vote anyway. Maybe this song can trend and get people to think more about what they want this site to be.
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@dan-atstarlite ·
$0.31
Thanks @steevc! We definitely don't want to put our friends in a quandary. I also have a hard time justifying voting on bit bot posts lol.
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@abh12345 ·
$0.07
I'm sailing the same boat as Steve but seeing as you guys are original content through and through, you can have a vote from me as well :D
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@jaybird ·
Yea, that was kind of the point with this one.  I only recently discovered that bid-bots was the primary factor in what was hitting the trending pg, and also... more interesting, that many of the bigger players i followed and enjoyed content from where also using them.
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@jonny-clearwater ·
$0.06
I really feel the need to chime in on this.
I don't pretend for a second that the bidbots don't see a lot of abuse....but not being willing to support content because bots were used isn't really fair at all.
Clearly I have a biased opinion here, but I think there is a correct way to use the bots and I think I am an example of it.
However, your mentality backfires my approach.
I create original content, content that doesn't just cost me time to create....it costs me a good chunk financially to do so.
Through my show, I'm not just creating content either.
I'm onboarding new users from the locations I travel to, I'm helping strengthen communities in the regions I travel to by hosting meetups and I'm introducing the steemit community to the members they share this space with.
With my show, I've created a product, a product that has an overhead and due to that, a need to advertise said product.
However, unlike others, my goal is to use this marketing to grow an organic viewership that will in time replace the use of bots completely.
Can I grow this show 100% organically?
Of course I can, but what I can't do is sustain the ability to create the content.
Using the bots to advertise my material is helping fund the project plain and simple. If I didn't have this tool available to me, there's no way I could afford to do the work I'm doing.
By choosing to not support the content because it's used these marketing tools, simply prolongs how long I have to continue to use them.
If we really want to see great content make it's way to this platform, we need to provide sustainability for that content, but until that sustainability comes using these tools allows me the chance to keep doing what I'm doing and grow little by little.
Content should be judged on the content, not on how the creator managed to get the content to you.
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@steevc ·
It's not a black and white issue. I can see you are working hard on this. Do the 'bots' make you much profit? Might you actually make more by not using them if it got you more support from whales? So many questions. You have a good following and I would think many of them would be supporting you regardless of whether you are on the trending page. As it is that is not an interesting place for many of us due to all the low quality posts getting boosted.

Steemit was intended to reward good quality content through community moderation. Buying votes bypasses that. It may boost your reputation too, but that's not due to people liking what you do. It just feels wrong to me and I think it harms Steemit in general. I want this platform to succeed and so do many others. Others just treat it as a profit opportunity. I'm not accusing you of that, but the freedom we have here allows everyone to do what they want, with the proviso that others can exercise their voting power to pass judgement.

I wish you all the best with what you do. I may well vote up some of your posts and I wouldn't flag you as I have with some posts that didn't deserve massive rewards. Not that my vote makes much difference.
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@tangerinetravels ·
$0.45
Great song! I hate that bid bots have become a thing on Steem but as long as they exist, I'd like to see people using them to push good content to the top. That's why we've started using them - because the trending page is filled with garbage most of the time and I'd rather see our videos above that junk. I think it gives a better view of Steem to the outsider when they first come to the trending page.
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@dan-atstarlite ·
Yeah, that’s basically how I feel too. I think it’s probably just anothet Steemit phase. And there are totally pro and cons. Like you guys... we will try to use them only in the best possible way 😎
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@teamhumble · (edited)
$0.66
HAHAHAH, funny you used bid bots on this to make a point. . ..  ;).. . .. oh WAIT. .. .
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@dan-atstarlite ·
$0.04
Yeah lol, we thought that would be funny. Also, it's been very interesting going through the experience of learning about them over the last couple days... for instance, I did not realize how much they were being used.
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@teamhumble ·
$0.08
yeah massively. see it's a tough one really because i can understanding someone wanting to get the message out and being PROUD of something but when it's just because you want to acquire more wealth to take out of the eco system then the argument kinda falls flat for me.

personally you guys are worth GOLD then just 1's and 0's -- but i guess that's just another rare mined resource too :)
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@jaybird ·
Hehe 😎
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@tnylea ·
$0.15
Love the song, kind of reminds me of the old ska music I used to listen to. Awesome :D
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@tonygreene113 ·
$0.03
Bidbots in a low economy like we have now is a lose-lose proposition.
It's best to just keep on creating the lamest posts ever.

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@topyo7777 ·
Great
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@tsnaks ·
$0.08
to be fair bids bots are only way to reach TRENDING, unless you got over 100k SP
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@steembirds ·
Completely agree!
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@tts ·
$0.04
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@ukuleletutorials ·
I run a bid bot, and I support this message xD

Our bot is to help gamers and streamers (who curie typical doesn't look for, no gaming posts are regularly curied like other tags), we take our own sbd and pay for their upvote as a reward better than what we can give individually, since I lease sp for the bot. We're on sbt of course, so we're open to all users, but our goal is to continue to help the gaming community, and I don't think that's such a bad thing.
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@upme ·
re-steembirds-are-bid-bots-the-only-way-20180610t161036664z
You got a 70.05% upvote from @upme thanks to @steembirds! Send at least 3 SBD or 3 STEEM to get upvote for next round. Delegate STEEM POWER and start earning 100% daily payouts ( no commission ).
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@vandex ·
I like bid bots
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@vhhau ·
lol. the poem is really amazing, dont you see?
https://media.giphy.com/media/y65VoOlimZaus/giphy.gif
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@victorvazco ·
Hahahaha! Brilliant and hilarious! Great job and the bid bots will bite us in the assssssss asssssssssss!!!
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@waqasniaz ·
u also used bot to make this post trending ;)
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@wilhb81 · (edited)
@steembirds Steemit won't be the same without you dynamic duo around, keep singing and rocking guys :)
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@jaybird ·
Thanks!
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@yaanivapeji ·
Bid bots is not the only way to make it to the trending page, but people have decided to sell their votes, making it hard for people to get votes on their post and they have decided to buy votes. So it seems like the only way for now.
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@yessellyloscomps ·
Omg !! Really awsome that post!!!! So funny... Yeahhhhhh

This is our post. I hope you enjoy
https://steemit.com/openmic/@yessellyloscomps/steemit-openmic-89-lovesong-lounge-version-the-cure
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@zhangruoxi ·
Hi ~ I'm zhangruoxi.I just upvoted your post!
Please come visit me here: https://steemit.com/@zhangruoxi
Thanks so much~!!
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