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RE: To Bid Bot Or Not To Bid Bot, That Is The Question by steemitqa

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· @steemitqa ·
>By the way, just labeling an idea as 'old steem' doesn't make it bad.

We want new criticism, not old criticism. Criticism is good as long as it's not the old criticism. Not saying you are doing that above. Just pointing out the difference between NewSteem and OldSteem.
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@raj808 · (edited)
I've already stated what old steem Vs new steem is, a marketing strategy. I used to work in PR, I know it when I see it. 

I'm not saying it's a bad strategy, but it is  bad when people start using a concept to label other people's opinions with added (perceived perception) weight to the positive or negative. I can get behind the idea of trying to improve people's behaviour with new steem but not trying to regulate how they express their views. This is meant to be a censorship resistant platform @steemitqa... neither you or anyone else gets to decide what is good or bad criticism. FFS, criticism is just that... critical feedback. Anyone can take it or leave it. As long as it's constructive, it's not trolling, or negative even if it's critical. Constructive criticism is part of the basis of finding true consensus and compromise.

I really hope people don't see this newsteem narrative as anything other than what it is, a narrative. Most of that narrative is good... but if the thought police are going to try and dictate what is against the 'newsteem' party line, then things are looking pretty bad around here. 

> Just pointing out the difference between NewSteem and OldSteem.

I'll make this clear as crystal, before this 'old steem Vs new steem' narrative you wouldn't have responded to my comment with such a delineated line in the sand:

> the difference between NewSteem and OldSteem.

With me potentially being on the wrong side 'old steem'. 

You might have told me what you found wrong about my argument, we may have had a discussion and possibly found some compromise/consensus of ideas.

Further to this you state:

> We want new criticism, not old criticism. Criticism is good as long as it's not the old criticism.

Another line in the sand, with me unable to fathom what 'old criticism' or 'new criticism' might be. A bit of a smoking gun to hold up don't you think? Don't say what I deem as old criticisms, or I'll blast you with the label of old steem. 

🤣🤣🤣

I think I'll just stick to speaking my mind, expressing my opinion, and keeping it as constructive as I can, like my parents brought me up to do. Thanks.

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@steemitqa ·
> steemitqa... neither you or anyone else gets to decide what is good or bad criticism

OH but we do my friend!   We know what old criticism is that is why I know we get to decide. Bid bots are bad, blah, blah old criticism see how that works? V.s  Bid bots now should moderate good or bad ...that is new criticism not old. But, yes trolling isn't good that is obvious 🤣

I answered the rest of the questions with the examples above.  There is no line draw in the sand there is old criticism the kind we've seen in the past and new criticism that might be old but with new stuff on top.  I believe that should be called out as old Steem!  we just disagree on what is old and what is new it seems. Thanks.
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@raj808 ·
> I answered the rest of the questions with the examples above.

I'm not sure what questions you're talking about but one thing is certain.

You're criticism of my criticism, which was the newest criticism (I mean your criticism was newer)... has now become old criticism of my even older criticism... this analogy is definitely getting old 😂 

One of the funest conversations I've had on here in a while though. Great battling semantics with ya 👍
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