Why Mine BITCOIN? by jaro

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bitcoin · @jaro · Jan 14 '18 (edited)

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Why Mine BITCOIN?

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<h2>That's like asking why mine gold. Simple. Because it MAKES you MONEY.&nbsp;</h2>
<p>But unlike with gold, you don't need picks and shovels or mining pans to do it. Or to move somewhere where there's gold. You can mine BITCOIN at home or ONLINE.&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="https://i.imgsafe.org/59/591dcc1e94.jpeg" alt="mining bitcoin" width="860" height="450"/></p>
<p>Here are TWO WAYS to do it.&nbsp;</p>
<p>ONE, you can buy a mining rig. The best one for bitcoin costs about $6000 on ebay or $5k directly from China. It's rated at 14TH(terrahashes) and it'll produce about 1 BITCOIN per YEAR, running 24 hours a day.</p>
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<p>And since Bitcoin is now about $16k, you can profit around $10k by buying one and running it at your home. Of course it's a bit noisy, runs 24/7 and uses 1400 watts, which is about 1000kWh per month.</p>
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<p>That's still a GREAT DEAL, especially considering that a year from now, bitcoin could be $160,000. Not bad on a $6k investment in 1year, huh?</p>
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<p><strong>The SECOND way to profit from it, and make REAL money, is to RENT MINING capacity. I.e. someone with a mining rig will rent it to you FOR A FEE. Below is one company that does that, and their fee is $220 per TH.</strong></p>
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<p>Now the mining rig I mentioned above is rated 14TH/s, so if you bought 14TH from this company, it'd cost you $3080/year, and you'd have an equivalent to having the actual $6k mining rig. MINUS having the headaches of maintaining it, providing internet connection to it, dealing with the heat and noise and electricity costs.</p>
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<p>And like I said, 14TH will produce about 1 BITCOIN per year, so your $3k investment could produce $16,000 to $160,000 profit in a year!!! How much would a bank pay you in interest for $3000? Not very much, huh?</p>
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<p>Now this is NOT an investment advice, just an FYI. I'd post it here even if I didn't have an affiliate link that pays me 10% of new people signing in. And it's anonymous, they just want you email. You can pay with BITCOIN or with credit cards, but with credit cards they require verification.</p>
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<p>Here's how to register:</p>
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<p>1.Go to: <a href="https://hashflare.io/r/CD873C62">https://hashflare.io/r/CD873C62</a></p>
<p>Setup an account it only takes a few minutes.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>2. After your account is set up click "Buy Hashrate" on the left hand side of the page.</p>
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<p>3. From there choose "SHA-256" for bitcoin mining.</p>
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<p>4. Use the sidebar to choose how much hashpower you want to buy and click proceed.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>5. On the next page click select payment method and you can pay with BTC or with a credit card(there is no fee for using a card)</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>6. Agree to terms and click confirm</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>7. On the next page enter your payment info if you are paying by credit card. And complete the payment.</p>
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<p>8. For first purchase with a credit card you will have to go into your credit card purchase history from you bank website and get the 4 digit code on the transaction and enter that code in hashflare so they can verify the card you are using is indeed yours and is not stolen.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>9. You are all set. Your payout will be in bitcoin once per day.&nbsp;</p>
<p>*************************</p>
<p>BTW, don't take my word for it. Here's a bitcoin mining calculator that shows you a BTC profit from 1TH. It's about 0.05769BTC per year, which is about 0.8 BTC/year from 14TH, AFTER the maintenance fees are deducted. Multiply that by today's price of bitcoin, or by $160k which LIKELY is what 1 BTC will be worth a year from now.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=1000&amp;p=0&amp;pc=&amp;pf=15&amp;d=1590896927258.08000000&amp;r=12.50000000&amp;er=14000&amp;hc=150" target="_blank">https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=1000&amp;p=0&amp;pc=&amp;pf=15&amp;d=1590896927258.08000000&amp;r=12.50000000&amp;er=14000&amp;hc=150</a></p>
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<p>Looks to me as a potentially LIFE-CHANGING op portunity. I kept telling you guys that having bitcoin is like gold mining 150 years ago. Now that bitcoin skyrocketed from $800 in January 2017 to $16,000 today, it's a full blown GOLD RUSH!</p>
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<p><strong>At Hashflare you also can mine ETHEREUM and LITECOIN, but I DON'T recommend that, since mining bitcoin is now MORE profitable.</strong> Almost twice as much. But if you want Ether or LTC then you should mine bitcoin and then BUY those altcoins with the BTC you mined. <strong>Here's the registration link again:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://hashflare.io/r/CD873C62"><strong>https://hashflare.io/r/CD873C62</strong></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>BTW, there are other companies that rent out mining rig capacity, but since bitcoin mining is SO PROFITABLE now, some of them ran out of capacity and have no bitcoin mining contracts to sell for any amount of money. It's like mining gold in 1800's; the EARLY miner gets the GOLD!</p>
<p><strong>Oh and Hashflare was in business for several years now, so it is a LOT SAFER to deal with them than with some new mining companies that were in business only for a few months.&nbsp;And you don't have to buy 14 TH (terrahashes) of mining power, you can just buy 1TH or even less.</strong></p>
<p>*************************</p>
<p>And I've been getting ACTUAL payouts at Hashflare of about 0.002BTC/day per 14TH contract. That's $28 before you deduct about 15% maintenance fee, with BTC price at $14,000. And if BTC goes back to $20,000 sometime this year, then ADD $12 a day to that. I.e. if 90 days from now Bitcoin goes to $20k, my mining earnings will increase to about $1000 per month, which is $3000 for the first three months.</p>
<p>And if Bitcoin goes to $30k this year, then <strong>your MONTHLY earnings from a 14TH contract should be about $1491.</strong> And that's applicable all the way back to the first day of your mining contract, since they pay out in bitcoin, not in dollars. And that's on a contract that you paid $220/TH for, which is $3080 for 14TH.&nbsp;Of course those numbers could be somewhat decreased by an increased mining difficulty, which usually comes when bitcoin rises in price significantly.</p>
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@albertoyago · Jan 11 '18

great stuff @jaro ! at the moment, mining BCH is way more profitable than BTC... it can be done with the same S9 machines... then you can convert it into btc when you fancy... also consider that, despite the initial investment of the expensive machines, you have to pay electricity monthly....so depending on how costly it is in your country, it might be cheaper and easier, to buy it with fiat straight away now that the price is a bit low...also, nobody guarantees you 160k btc in the near future

👍 albertoyago

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@randomaccess · Jan 11 '18

Not sure where the 160k speculation came from. Lots of chatter indicating that btc has less room to grow than many others due to its usefulness

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@anthonbar · Jan 11 '18

Maybe.. Why not to mine Bitcoin..? would much more useful.. I think it's not worth it. Although, good job!

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@arisha · Jan 10 '18

trap or not it doesn't matter... i'm a coin collector and i'm not after for the value of these coins i am after for it's history and not the monetary value... i am after for the ART present in these coins and not the dollars..

👍 reisr

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@jamesmiller · Jan 11 '18

thats something new

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@asifgoraya123 · Jan 11 '18

Nice Post
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To Receive Exciting News And Signals About Bitcoin and Altcoins.

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@bgsux · Jan 10 '18

I think lesser people are using bitcoin as their fav transaction coin due to the high transaction fees. guess the mining world income are greatly affected

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@underpants · Jan 11 '18

yeh using eth instead, its much faster and you can buy nearly every other coin with eth like with btc

👍 underpants

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@bhabykat · Jan 11 '18

$0.04

Thank you for sharing on how and where we can mine bitcoins. I would love to mine bitcoins too.

👍 jaro

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@bigi · Jan 11 '18

Does anyone know much about Russian Mining Coin? - RMC One https://rmc.one/ I invested a small amount last year.

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@billhablot · Jan 10 '18

the point is the EARLY miner gets the GOLD

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@blake123 · Jan 14 '18

i thought mining bitcoin wasn't profitable anymore but now im gonna mine some bitcoin

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@bluehorseshoe · Jan 13 '18

$0.28

I own some hashflare but love having hardware mining under my control more.

👍 bluehorseshoe

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@byltc · Jan 10 '18

Hello , I like you blog.Upvote and Follow you ! You are invited to my blog 
Welcome.

👍 nickwalshblog

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@byltc · Jan 10 '18

Enjoy the vote and reward! Mutual Upvote you :) Follow and Upvote you.
Welcome  !   Thank you .

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@catlove · Jan 15 '18

thanks for info ! especially these days mining is important :D

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@characters1 · Apr 28 '18

0.1 BTC free for mining-you can buy 9 th/s lifetime , offer limited time  https://seebit.io/?r=56086

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@coinflipper · Jan 15 '18

The money you gonna spend on electricity alone is probably higher then what you get for it, unless you hack servers and leech computing power. LoL

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@comule · Jan 10 '18

So.. $10,000 profit annually you said. But you forgot to mention how much it'll cost for 1000kWh per month.. multiply by 12 months, minus $10,000.. i think it goes to zero.. plus or minus.. right?

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@jaro · Jan 10 '18

Wrong. Electricity costs are only 10-20% of the money you earn. Plus you don't have to worry about that when you do online mining as there those costs are automatically deducted.

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@criptobuzz · Jan 11 '18

Good post

👍 criptobuzz

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@cryptoadviceltd · Jan 11 '18

Great predictions, I created my first ever post which I think people will find funny to read. Could some people spread the word :)

I quit my high paid job yesterday to do this so am a bit worried haa.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@cryptoadviceltd/quit-my-job-yesterday-my-honest-journey-in-cryptocurrency-the-highs-the-lows

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@cryptosee · Jan 12 '18

NEW BUY OPPORTUNITY |LAMBDEN (TAU)| +1000% POTENTIAL PROFITS
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@cryptosee/new-buy-opportunity-or-lambden-tau-or-1000-potential-profits

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@danex1509 · Jan 11 '18

Bitcoin is showing a high rate of inflation, isn't it?

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@daviddivergent · Jan 13 '18

$0.04

Wow👍 This fully explains bitcoin mining ⛏ Thank You for sharing 👍

👍 jaro

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@denizkorkmaz · Jan 15 '18

It is one of the best article that I read on steemit so far. Well done mate, very clear.

👍 denizkorkmaz

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@dimby · Jan 11 '18

Is it really trustworthy ? I just had a fast check on http://bittrust.org/hashflare and the reviews are quite bad... 2,63/5 only ! I think we can find a better cloud mining service on the internet.

👍 nickwalshblog, edinho

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@dkn · Jan 12 '18

Why do you think mining is better then buy&holding?

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@dimitar9 · Jan 14 '18

$0.04

I like your calculation. thanks.
(please upvote me too)

👍 jaro

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@dj-turbo-honda · Jan 15 '18

only 42 million left to mine

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@djbk · Jan 14 '18

got 24TH's on it currently.. im very happy with hashflare so far :D happy earnings

👍 djbk

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@dkn · Jan 12 '18

Why isn't it better to just buy BTC and see, how it grows? 

If you put money to the cloud mining it will be frozen for a long time and you will never get it back if the price of BTC will not grow. You will have profit only if the price will keep growing.

If you just hold BTC the situation is better. If BTC price grows - you are in profit. If it falls - you can just sell it. 

But you cannot sell the mining resource.  

Did you get my idea?

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@jaro · Jan 14 '18

Wrong. Bitcoin mining is like buying bitcoin at 75% discount. You pay $3080 for 14TH which will give you almost one bitcoin over the 12 month. So you paid $3080 for a $14000 bitcoin.

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@dkn · Jan 14 '18

But what if BTC will cost 3000 over the 12 months?

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@dtube.com · Jan 10 '18

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@ender2135 · Jan 11 '18

$0.04

I agree, mining from home is a bit of a headache, keeping sure things are up and running. If I could do it again, I would likely do cloud mining.

👍 jaro

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@ezekielpink · Jan 11 '18

you can't mine bitcoin

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@fajarharapan · Jan 13 '18

Can we make bitcoin be real money not digital..?
What coountry that addopt bitcoin as currency ?

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@famg · Jan 15 '18

Given the actual prices and difficulties it seems as if mining ETH is at least as profitable as mining BTC. Cheers.

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@galhadas · Jan 11 '18

Great post,
Now that the Bitcoin is high isnt it better to mine something else? 
like Ethereum\Monero\ Ripple?
What do you thing?

👍 galhadas, mjo

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@mjo · Jan 12 '18

If it's helpful, I'm testing out mining Monero on a pretty standard computer now. It sounds like you don't need an expensive rig to be able to mine it at the moment. I'm finding that I've been getting somewhere around .002 XMR per day on a bit of an outdated machine. I plan to post about it after about a month when I have some better metrics but it seems like at the current price it may not be worth it. I'm using a mining pool so if you look at the XMR I'll have mined minus the .008 fee to withdraw and factor in the cost of electricity it looks likely I'll be in the red. 

I'm still going to stick this out for 2 main reasons.
1. I just want to run the numbers and have a conclusion here on if this is profitable.
2. I also like Monero as a long term hold, so assuming the value goes up significantly from $376ish per XMR I might be glad I mined some down the road :)

👍 galhadas

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@galhadas · Jan 13 '18

can you explain more how do you mine it?
I have some machine that I dont need I might try too

👍 galhadas

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@sames · Jan 12 '18

$0.07

You can't mine ripple. Ethereum going POS and that profitable is down. Monero cpu but not the most profitable in bulk. If bitcoin is high that means that more money you make!

👍 sames

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@galhadas · Jan 12 '18 (edited)

Doesn't it mean that it will be harder to mine? 
That I will need, more electricity and better equipment to mine 1 bitcoin? 
If you compare to 1 year ago

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@gulfuren · Jan 11 '18

$0.04

Beautiful

👍 jaro

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@halloworld · Jan 12 '18

bitcoinmining is a idealism action. you never back the investment. i am a pionier of bitcoin on 1ts hour. ;) bitcoinmining is a very big scam-business.

👍 halloworld

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@henzkel · Jan 11 '18

Bitcoin mining using Hashflare is still doable but the minimum payout has been increased to 0.05 BTC. This plus the additional transaction cost means that you should invest in a lot of hashpower to break even in just a few months. Otherwise, you will not mine enough just to withdraw. Genesis Mining is much more preferrable at 0.003 BTC but mining contracts have ran out.

👍 edinho

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@hridoy23 · Jan 10 '18

$0.06

i have a question to you. if i keep my cryptocurrency like btc,ltc or something  like that in blockchain or coinbase how much safely it is in there???

👍 hridoy23, indiojodido

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@comule · Jan 10 '18

$0.04

i guess you're new to cryptocurrency.

👍 hridoy23

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@hridoy23 · Jan 11 '18

yes i am new and i have not enough idea about it that is why i asked you.please give me answer

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@randomaccess · Jan 11 '18

Safe enough. As long as they don't get hacked or run off with the money. 
Or you can manage it all on your own device and hope you don't get hacked. 
If you intend on buying and holding then look into an offline wallet that you can backup your private keys yourself

👍 aaronthomas, jorgepicado

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@nickwalshblog · Jan 11 '18

get your coins off exchanges and into nano ledger s or trezor so the coins are offline, keep the ledger in a fireproof small box keep the seed words in fire proof small box some where else and keep copy too.

key logging software is used every hour by criminals stealing cryptocurrencies from coinbase etc when they are gone they are gone, get a crypto education or get recked

👍 snerdey

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@iamatabo · Jan 10 '18

Mining Bitcoin is great, but how about ethereum?

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@icantor · Jan 12 '18

So true! Great post.

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@importanteye · Jan 13 '18

If You Are Reading This Fortune Cookie You Will Have A Prosperous And Happy Fall Next Year 🍪

👍 importanteye

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@jaafarkadim · Jan 10 '18

I was giving up the idea of mining Bitcoin and I began buying some coins like TRON until I read this. This was because I thought BTC would have a major drop that would've been caused by the high transaction costs.
 Thank you for this post. I would like to read more of you!!!

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@leoh · Jan 11 '18

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@jeremyc · Jan 13 '18

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Really interesting post and it has certainly peaked my interest. I was able to understand it having really no prior knowledge of anything crypto but i am starting to get into it.

Thanks for your explanation and also reading the comments have been very useful and interesting! @jaro

👍 jaro

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@jimjam · Jan 17 '18

This is a cool article, and it is true that Bitcoin mining is profitable. However, Bitcoin mining is the equivalent to spending $1.50 on $1 of water and then selling it for $2. Cool, you made $0.50 profit, but you could have just bought a dollars worth of water, sold it, and made $1 profit, instead. And, it would have been far easier to do the latter. 

I wrote a quick <a href ="https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jimjam/should-you-mine-bitcoin-and-why-you-shouln-t-trust-cloud-mining"> article</a> on it if you want to check out the numbers. If not, just know that for the majority of individuals, the numbers don't support the fact that Bitcoin mining is MORE profitable than simply buying and holding Bitcoin. And, Cloud mining is far less profitable given the numbers.

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@joydrummer22 · Jan 10 '18

I tend to not agree but I do appreciate all the effort and research you've done. The hassle and the upkeep of a mining rig does not always equal the profits. Renting a miner seems especially risky. But to each their own I suppose

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@jaro · Jan 10 '18

No work=no money. No risk=no profits. To each his own.

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@juliansamuel · Jan 11 '18

Nice post. Please follow back and check my post and comment. @juliansamuel

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@kaarna · Jan 10 '18

Pointless to mine.

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@karthikix · Jan 12 '18

Rather than mining bitcoin, you must shell out your ROI calculations on multiple alt coins. You dont need to worry about buying hashrates too. There are better software like minergate which gets you started even for a naive user.

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@kayla353570 · Jan 12 '18

Can I come along

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@korak · Jan 12 '18

Flat Broke? If you are flat broke and want to try mining at a very small scale you can take a look at the [CoinFactories](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/coin-factories-monero-cry/lonijlpkhmabedfiafipngignpeoighg) extension for Chrome. It's free to use and will let you try out small-scale mining to learn a bit about a hashrate, throttling, etc while you figure out your more serious plan. It's not a replacement for full mining but can be a good way to dip your toe into the pool without risking any money yet.

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@lakarma · Jan 12 '18

Cryptocurrency Can't Be Stopped!

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@leagueinside · Jan 11 '18

Very interesting subject and Post! 
Upvote this 👍🏼🔝🔝🔝

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@lsdslash · Jan 16 '18

That's a lot on the electric bill, but I suppose that issue will work itself out.

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@luckyreddy · Jan 13 '18

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Hashflare is good for bitcoin cloud mining  and it gives good profit to miners

👍 jaro

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@lwanga · Jan 15 '18

Very helpful i will check out it hashflare

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@masrooranwer · Jan 10 '18

Informative

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@menel3d · Jan 11 '18

great idea 
i plan start mining steem who can help my 
https://steemit.com/steemit/@menel3d/steemit-start-mining-plan

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@mikehustleinc · Jan 12 '18

I think if you have the money to invest in mining wither its hardware or cloud-based it makes sense, but $4000-$6000 isn't just sitting on everyone's shelf or in their bank account like that. Those on a smaller budget might want to start with a few alt-coins, $20 on a $0.01 coin will get them 2000 coins in which their money will double every $0.01 it increases. But when dealing with alt coins there are key factors to realize such as the satoshi rate and the actual technology and development of the coin. In other words, if you are going to start small do some research and find creditable crypto news sources on why the coin will rise or never get off the ground. Only other good thing about investing that low is you can only go up!

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@mikeycolon · Jan 13 '18

I guess it may not be too late for some to mine btc.

But I wonder what the warranty would be on those machines. Plus good luck getting support. 

Great post!

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@miner76 · Jan 12 '18

bitcoin is stable crypto @miner76

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@mohammadkaleem · Jan 13 '18

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how much do u earn from mining in a month

👍 jaro

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@jaro · Jan 14 '18 (edited)

Around $25/day net from 14 TH that cost $3080 for 1 year. But if bitcoin price doubles or triples in 2018, those earnings will double or triple as well.

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@murtazajunior · Jan 12 '18

saya suka postingan ada..
sepertinya anda seorang ceo yang handal

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@musa32 · Jan 10 '18

You should also mention the Antminer Hardware. They cost about 3-6k but are worth it.

👍 nickwalshblog

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@mwkthang · Jan 11 '18

Gold actually has properties - you can use gold for all sorts of things. People value gold for the metal. Nobody values bitcoin for the bitcoin; they value it because they believe that they can exchange it for something else.

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@jaro · Jan 12 '18

Bitcoin is a CURRENCY. You can spend it at the speed of electricity in thousands of places all around the world. It's even better store of wealth than gold since it increases in value like crazy. Doh.

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@mwkthang · Jan 11 '18

Whenever the price of cryptocurrency is rallying, people start spending a lot more.

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@mwkthang · Jan 11 '18

If the world's using bitcoin, governments won't be able to fund wars through inflation like they do today.

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@mwkthang · Jan 11 '18

We are seeing more managed money and, to an extent, institutional money entering the space. Anecdotally speaking, I know of many people who are working at hedge funds or other investment managers who are trading cryptocurrency personally, the question is, when do people start doing it with their firms and funds?

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@mwkthang · Jan 12 '18

Gold actually has properties - you can use gold for all sorts of things. People value gold for the metal. Nobody values bitcoin for the bitcoin; they value it because they believe that they can exchange it for something else.

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@jaro · Jan 12 '18

Bitcoin is a CURRENCY. You can spend it at the speed of electricity in thousands of places all around the world. It's even better store of wealth than gold since it increases in value like crazy. Doh.

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@mwkthang · Jan 12 '18

We are seeing more managed money and, to an extent, institutional money entering the space. Anecdotally speaking, I know of many people who are working at hedge funds or other investment managers who are trading cryptocurrency personally, the question is, when do people start doing it with their firms and funds?

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@mwkthang · Jan 12 '18

Whenever the price of cryptocurrency is rallying, people start spending a lot more.

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@nemanja030 · Jan 10 '18

Hello , please check my [first post](https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@nemanja030/i-have-never-invested-in-bitcoin-but-i-still-have-them)

I think this is much better situation than actual mining

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@nickwalshblog · Jan 11 '18 (edited)

Mining 

Individual Miners 

are playing the lottery as the chance of finding a block  to offset their electricity and hardware costs is very low.

Mining Pools

Coordinate hundreds of thousands of miners and th epool miners share the effort to mine the block and then they share the reward which is 12.5 bitcoins at todays rate.

Managed Pools

Most mining pools are managed so a company or individual is running the pool server, the pool miner connect to the pool server using a mining protocol like Get Block Template.

Peer-to-peer mining pool (P2Pool)

Because managed pools can cheat the miner thro double spend transactions or invalidate blocks or because there is one point of failure as server attacked by denial of service attack and pool miners cant mine then (P2Pool) is better option but is more complex and requires pool miners have: 

full bitcoin node
so dedicated PC 
big memory
big disc space
big bandwidth
P2Pool node software

Runs on share chain which runs at lower difficulty than the bitcoin blockchain - 

P2Pool sharechain	Miner rewards	8,640 Shares	30 Seconds	Dynamic

Bitcoin blockchain	Bitcoin transactions	Complete; all blocks	10 Minutes	Every 2,016 blocks

Nick

Bitcoin Certified Professional

Keep on Steeming!

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@nikkijmurphy · Jan 13 '18

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A great post for new like myself looking to get into Bitcoin, thanks for taking the time to share this with the community

👍 jaro

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@nkkb · Jan 10 '18

$6.29

I bought at bitclub.net  but the payout is very small. Think its not worth it. Better invest in penny cryptos wit 1000 % more ROI.

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@brugis · Jan 12 '18

There is many ways you can earn. And only you can choose which part you can go , there  is neither bad or good chooses , only your way . Choose wisely !

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@drakernoise · Jan 10 '18 (edited)

Yes it is worth to invest in "cheap" coins and hold till they pump. In this way I would suggest to take a look at this guide , I've found it quite iluminating.

The link:  http://cryptogurus.com/guides/price-or-market-cap/

Pd: thank you so much @jaro for this interesting post  ;)

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@jaro · Jan 10 '18

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Investing in penny cryptos is a gamble; maybe you win, maybe you lose. Mining bitcoin is a LOT more reliable. People were mining bitcoin since 2009 and it is STILL profitable.

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@bhansa · Jan 11 '18

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Mining is really profitable instead of earning in pennies/cents, I agree. Cloud mining is a much better option by the way, you get what you bet there.

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@leoh · Jan 11 '18

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@mawit07 · Jan 10 '18

Took many years until bitcoin "truly" became profitable. It was still worth under $100 in the first few years. I kind of agree with @nkkb that if one put a few dollars into many penny cryptos then one will bound to go up 1000% or more in the years to come. Just have to do research on the coins and be quick while they are inexpensive. Thanks.

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@menel3d · Jan 15 '18

https://www.spacemining.io/?ref=30523  new site 100 GH/s for start on mining Bitcoin    proof payment  100% im testing from myself![spacemin ing.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmWVCae8rrRkWyXDNZNyHmH1F3q1EvXHqHnUaLrgZ19ay1/spacemin%20ing.JPG)

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@soneo · Jan 10 '18

yes

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@leagueinside · Jan 11 '18

Yeah 🔝🔝🔝

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@leoh · Jan 11 '18

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@mawit07 · Jan 10 '18

I had heard about bitclub and was interested in joining. Now reading your response I am glad I never got involved. Thanks.

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@menel3d · Jan 15 '18

https://www.spacemining.io/?ref=30523  new site 100 GH/s for start on mining Bitcoin    proof payment  100% im testing from myself![spacemin ing.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmWVCae8rrRkWyXDNZNyHmH1F3q1EvXHqHnUaLrgZ19ay1/spacemin%20ing.JPG)

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@omega360 · Jan 13 '18

please give the full site of the penny cryptos. thank you

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@nkkb · Jan 13 '18

https://dentacoin.com/

http://dogecoin.com/

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@some-dude · Jan 10 '18

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmYbbVHN9mL9nSBnLY1mE18rDGFjEETTZ9mgeKSVsw6y5z/image.png)
Want 30GH FREE (REALLY) Go to https://world-mining.net/924987409/  create your account, scroll down left side panel, click "Bonus", click "Activate 30GH/s".

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@abe973t · Jan 12 '18

Nice!

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@umerfarooqorak · Jan 14 '18

Next Jump


https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@salahuddin2004/bitcoin-will-retest-20-k-before-30-march-2018

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@vishalbty · Jan 10 '18

Correct! Investing in low market cap in crypto is much better than actually investing in a mining hardware. Because in the long run, mining is not profitable if the rate doesn't increase due to the increase in mining difficulty.

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@dkn · Jan 12 '18

True. You always can sell the coin, but you cannon sell the mining power.

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@jaro · Jan 10 '18

Nonsense. Difficulty has been increasing every year since 2009, and mining bitcoin is STILL HUGELY profitable. In fact it's about TWICE as profitable as mining Ethereum or Litecoin.

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@omega360 · Jan 13 '18

i really appreciate the time you took to make this write up. it s very informative. however, i still need you to through more light on this issue.
i notice...that when btc price is rising, ones earning from mining is reducing. and when btc is decreasing the earning from mining increases. why this...it does not allow one to see real benefit from mining.

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@orlendgreat · Jan 14 '18

THIS IS REALLY HOT!

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@orlendgreat/monetize-coin-the-most-anticipated-ico-now-pre-ico-has-closed-early

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@pankajwahane · Jan 21 '18

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@pankajwahane · Jan 22 '18

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@piyushpurwar · Jan 10 '18

not worth investment its better to buy equipment and mine it rather than  going with cloud based miner .

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@jaro · Jan 10 '18 (edited)

Except that most people don't have $6,000 to buy a new miner rig, so for them it's a LOT better and easier to sign up for online mining. 
Yeah, investing $1k to get $4k worth of bitcoin over 12 months is not worth it. RIGHT? lol

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@piyushpurwar · Jan 11 '18

i meant if you are having an X amount you want to invest better , invest that directly in buying cryptocurrencies . the profitable yield will be higher for you .

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@pydevnopro · Jan 10 '18

I don`t think is worthy to mine bitcoin these days, it takes to much, there are to many miners and you have to invest a lot in software and components. 
I think it`s just better to invest in other crypto like ETC, XRP, Litecoin and other "small" coins. :)

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@quattz · Jan 12 '18

Why should someone rent out their capacity for less money if they could make a lot more money from it, if they use the capacity themselves?

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@rajafahad · Jan 17 '18

great post dude

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@rippleeffect · Jan 10 '18

If you can't afford 5/6K for a rig, anyone with an iPhone can mine coin with a mobile miner app. https://electroneum.com/2017/10/24/how-much-can-i-earn-as-a-mobile-miner/

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@indiojodido · Jan 11 '18

What app mines coins on an Iphone?

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@rizalirawan · Jan 11 '18

$0.04

Great post

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@jamesmiller · Jan 11 '18

yea, so informative

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@rizwansadiq · Jan 17 '18

This is a good test for cryptocurrencies right now. If China does ban all cryptocurrency trading, we are going to be able to see what cryptocurrencies and exchanges are going to be able to circumvent the ban and prevail. If Bitcoin (BTC) cannot pull through this due to its current lack of censorship resistance, then it will never be able to fulfill what it set out to do in its whitepaper; be a decentralized censorship-resistant digital currency for peer to peer transactions. This will be an interesting case study and something for all of us to learn from.

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@salmanbahadur · Jan 11 '18

https://steemit.com/love/@salmanbahadur/7-things-i-will-tell-my-children-about-love-and-life

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@sarah249 · Jan 12 '18

You are assuming with the hindsight that investing in cryptos will be profitable x times. but in real life not everyone makes money. past few months have been crazy but it will not go on like that all the time. for the most part crypto was going up and down both in last few years. so there is a decent chance that your investment will keep lowering. 
however, in case of mining you keep getting the coins and if the market is bullish then it will be going up as well. When btc makes a correction, whole market goes down. 

if you can, i would suggest split your money and do mining, investing and staking. if you are good at trading or investing, then use the mined / staked coins to trade and increase that.

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@jaro · Jan 12 '18

You don't have to be good at trading to make money mining bitcoin. Plus, 90% of traders lose money. Mining bitcoin doesn't require any skills; just thinking independently enough not be influence by the haters.

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@sarah249 · Jan 12 '18

I am a trader and i have made some profit and loss in trading.  i am also mining ether on Rx 580 rigs at my home. i still believe the best way is to do both if you can. if you are looking for side income and dont have time then mining is good. if you have some time on hand and you want a primary income then you must have more revenue streams for stability.

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@so-anon-it-hurts · Jan 11 '18

Please excuse my skepticism, but I'm really just interested in getting to the root of the matter. 
Do you actually pay for someone else to mine BTC for you? Would you share monthly returns/ pay rates? 
I find it hard to believe that there isn't a catch... why wouldn't the miner just mine and keep the profits themselves? My guess is that the miner makes more money from "renting out" their equipment than the actual value of BTC being mined, which means the "renter" is probably losing money. 
Genuinely interested, cheers!

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@boris34 · Jan 11 '18

Same question i had in mind.  For sure owner of equipment makes more money,otherwise they would not rent their equipment and do mining themselves. I think trick here is the payout limits. Most probably some high percent of the people who rent equipment and do mining do not hit the payout threshold and as a result leave their BTC s to equipment owner. So hashflare for example in this scenario earns money from renting their equipment and from left out BTCs..

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@jaro · Jan 12 '18

There's no catch. For a  12-month 14TH contract you'll be getting around $30/day worth of bitcoin. And miners do this because they get paid upfront. I.e. they can buy a mining rig with the money you pay them for a one-year contract. That lets them get into mining business with practically zero investment. They just have to uphold that contract for one year and then they own the mining rig.

Why wouldn't they let you buy them a mining rig? All they have to do is to run it for you for one year. So it's a WIN-WIN; you profit from mining without all the hassle with having an actual mining rig, and they get a mining rig for running it for you for one year.

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@drskhan90 · Jan 12 '18 (edited)

this clarifies my doubt as why they are renting. put simply they mine BTC with your money for you. keep the convenience charge and gives rest to you.
but for me altcoins are more profitable. i love those tiny coins.

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@so-anon-it-hurts · Jan 14 '18

This is actually what I was looking for, thanks! I reasonable answer to a troubling question.

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@jaro · Jan 12 '18

The only thing that's risky is that some companies pretend to mine for you and then run away with your money. So you gotta go with a company that was in business for several years, such as Hashflare. Signup link for Hashflare is in the article above.

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@some-dude · Jan 10 '18

Want 30GH FREE (REALLY) Go to https://world-mining.net/924987409/  create your account, scroll down left side panel, click "Bonus", click "Activate 30GH/s".

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@steem2000 · Jan 16 '18

@jaro Wow Jerry that was a lot of work, thank you!
 I will check them out when I get home this evening and can sit down and read.

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@leoh · Jan 11 '18

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@sushantgodam · Jan 12 '18

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@thehermitmonk · Jan 11 '18

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Great article, I’m going to take a look at hashflare. I mine altcoins on my computer and was thinking of buying an ant miner for mining bitcoin but I see now it is cheaper and less hassle signing up for one of these contracts. I will sign up under your link if I decide to do this.

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@tnelectronics · Jan 11 '18

Great article.   Bitcoin is a little too expensive for me to invest in.  I’ve been focusing on currencies such as ripple and trx!    Keep up the good work

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@trian · Jan 11 '18

Nice post. Should i try to use nicehash. Can you make a post about that as well.

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@vishalbty · Jan 10 '18

Why would anyone mine for someone and take the headaches of maintaining it, providing internet connection to it, dealing with the heat and noise and electricity costs to earn less?

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@jaro · Jan 10 '18 (edited)

Because he gets paid upfront. I.e. they can buy a mining rig with the money you pay them for a one-year contract. That lets him get into mining business with practically zero investment. He just has to uphold that contract for one year and then he owns the mining rig. 

Why wouldn't he let you buy him a mining rig? All he has to do is to run it for you for one year.

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voter	rshares	pct
nickwalshblog	1,137,338,373	100%
nkkb	580,345,385,022	100%
lsdslash	227,321,763	100%
vegas8888	534,617,671	100%
anthonbar	614,503,785	100%
brugis	408,881,900	100%
saumyabratadutt	562,270,309	100%
evozaika	233,646,800	100%
nevv	1,278,556,728	100%
so-anon-it-hurts	592,995,463	100%
capybara	614,500,000	100%
korak	0	0%
muviani	537,687,500	100%
mikehustleinc	614,499,314	100%
dimby	423,974,910	100%
jaafarkadim	1,050,236,078	100%
deepak9252	1,160,481,687	100%
meninist	405,532,115	100%
abe973t	592,973,741	100%
philmcrew	328,745,740	100%