RE: Deployment Updates, Improved Power Downs, New Landing Page Copy by timcliff

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condenser · @timcliff · Sep 21 '17

$2.28

There are a lot of aspects to the platform, and I'm sure it is difficult to capture the essence of the entire platform in a quick catchy slogan. The reality is that money _is_ one of the big reasons that people join. After they are here, hopefully they find that the platform offers so much more.

Also, just to point out - the fact that your comment is now sitting as the top comment on the post after you received an upvote with more stake than all the other comments goes to show that money does play a big role in the conversations that we have here. IDK if it is that far off the mark..

👍 barbro, manycoolthings

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@ash · Sep 21 '17

$0.11

money is probably the only reason steem is still somewhat relevant.

however, advertising this aspect only lead to disappointed newbies, they will never earn a single cent without investing. yes, there are some exemptions, but the majority won't earn.

further, this will only encourage even more bots, and they're a already a huge pest.

👍 stevescoins, the-ego-is-you, manycoolthings

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@acidyo · Sep 22 '17

$1.39

>they will never earn a single cent without investing.

This is far from the truth and I'm sure curie and other curation projects beg to differ. There aren't just "some exceptions", a big chunk of users start from scratch and earn their way up by being active.

>further, this will only encourage even more bots

There are good bots and bad bots, the bad ones often get countered by the good ones or users that notice them. The majority of users don't join and think "how can I create a bot for this?"

👍 babsboard, stevescoins, manycoolthings

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@manycoolthings · Sep 22 '17

You are correct, anyone has the potential to earn rewards at a reasonable level, but it does seem to be those who invested real money that are now whales and have huge earning potential, some may say an unfair advantage...but those whales quite rightly can expect a return for their investment of real money which is in many cases 10s or more of $ into STEEM and powering up increasing there ROI even more...is that unfair, NO.

About the bots, the bot population seems to be exploding more and more every day, you are correct in that many are good bots..although operated as a business, and a business main aim is to make a profit. Why are so many of these bots using an auction bidding process instead of flat rates...profit pure and simple. Is it wrong some say yes many say no (by using the services offered in their search for more rewards/money.

Even what many consider miniscule rewards can make a huge difference in a persons life depending upon their geographical location, this is a great thing about Steemit, it is socmed that truly gives back, the focus on money is hower=ver wrong and will backfire badly for Steemit when bad word of mouth spreads if users are not earning. People pissed off with the platfrom will tell many more about that than those happy with it. It is a marketing fact that people who believe they have been "taken" will talk a lot more than happy users.

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@manycoolthings · Sep 22 '17

Agree 100%, there are only a very small percentage of daily users actually making any real rewards, but the really great things is there are no ads, and they don't use all your data to make more for Steemit Inc.

Focusing most on the money will bring many more users who eventully get pissed off when not earning what they expect (believe they were promised?) which will lead to bad press or bad word of mouth which will be very detrimental to Steemit as a platform. Focussing mostly on money is wrong, really wrong.

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@timcliff · Sep 21 '17

$2.32

It is not really saying "join and you will make money". I understand the argument about not using rewards as the primary recruitment tool, but that doesn't seem like what this message is doing.

👍 barbro, manycoolthings

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@manycoolthings · Sep 22 '17

$0.10

I disagree on that point...MONEY is very clearly placed foremost with the by line about quality content lowered in importance.  This will lead to a huge increase in users, who ultimateley be disappointed with the rewards they get...leading to bad word of mouth which will really damage this awesome platform.

👍 the-ego-is-you, timcliff

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@manycoolthings · Sep 22 '17

$0.60

Sure many users found Steemit when seeking info about making money, or crypto, or even BTC, but after a while it becomes about much more than that...I'm not saying the rewards aren't necessary of course they are, thats what makes Steemit so different to the other Socmed Facebook, Twitter, Instagram who give you nothing for being involved in their money making completely self centered platforms that are filled with ads and stealing every bit of data about us they can to make THEM even more $$, while giving back nothing to those who actually create the wealth for them.  I think they need to focus more on the social aspect with real rewards for being involved as a secondary aspect with the option to invest real money to fast track your reward potential.(reality?).

👍 timcliff

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@timcliff · Sep 22 '17

$1.39

How do you condense that down into a catchy slogan?

👍 babsboard, cryptocrusaders, manycoolthings

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@cryptocrusaders · Sep 23 '17 (edited)

$0.08

(:D my 3cents worth, being Frank)

# MORE FRIENDS MORE REWARDS MORE FUN!!!
# MORE SOCIAL MORE FOLLOWERS MORE FUN!!!
# MORE UPVOTES MORE FRIENDS  MORE REWARDS!!!

👍 timcliff, cryptocrusaders, binarybits, cassidyandfranks

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