Viewing a response to: @erodedthoughts/re-firedream-re-erodedthoughts-re-firedream-re-erodedthoughts-defend-yourself-against-grumpycat-20180222t074940877z
My argument is : "downvoting innocent people with fresh, quality post just because he/she used upvote bots is bullying" Your counter-argument is : " there are people in steemit succeded without using bots" Analogy : There are people in life succeded without going to university, so no need for universities. Unfortunately, because of the current curation system people follow the money not the content. Yes, good content will be rewarded but first it must get out of the "noise". For discord, i met it with steemit and i loved it. What is wrong with using it? FD.
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If I remember correctly this is the set of scammers who were @grumpycat corrected. You tell me which of these scammers make quality content that was incorrectly down-voted.  I hold two University degree's and work from home using neither, have 10 kids, own my own home and so on. I would think if buying votes was a real thing people needed to do to survive someone with the almost $12,000 in monthly bills like myself would do. Difference is I am not a lazy fuck trying to live off of steemit when I have bills to pay and a family.
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I have a lot of them... Selected : * [An introduce yourself post - fresh upvoted](https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@smallstepschange/introduceyourself-hi-i-m-chris-how-i-turned-my-life-around-by-making-sustainable-lifestyle-choices-and-how-you-can-too#@firedream/re-smallstepschange-introduceyourself-hi-i-m-chris-how-i-turned-my-life-around-by-making-sustainable-lifestyle-choices-and-how-you-can-too-20180203t182549691z) A very good way to welcome a new user! * [A post of @adsactly, a minnow club](https://steemit.com/adsactly/@adsactly/adsactly-on-adsactly-part-34) Why? no one knows... There are more of them. FD.
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You re you naming more scammers? I wanted to know who wasn't a scammer downvoted,
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@smallstepschange  Rep 50 been here months and is a doctor, why would I support him if he does not support steemit by powering up? He sells his power to an upvote bot for money. and he was brought here by a top fucking scammer @jerrybanfield on top of it all. Like I said the assholes who sucked before they got here still fucking suck.
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The problem with discord is hidden channels, erased messages and no record of voice chats. I know I have small whale support, the reason I have it based on when I ask is because I am powering up my account and that means I am here to stay. New users who buy votes appear to be in it for a money grab. So why would they get rewarded if they are not putting their earnings into the system? And the fact you miss is the large upvote from the vote bot get's the largest curation reward from the post.
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Buying votes doesn't pay. Check my one and only biggest upvote : I sent 40 SBD to upvote. I received something like 85 SBD worth upvote. %25 is on curation, left is approximately 64 SBD. Divide by %50 SBD receival : 32 SBD Steem receival : 32/3,6 -->approximately 8,6 SP This is almost break-even even a bit loss. Each user that uses bots gives %25 curation and powers up automatically. So part of their SBD is turned to SP. I am not defending bots neither against them. I made analysis on them for some time. I see them as an ads system. I guess people using bots see this also. Can we think of an other method of curation or promotion? I guess we can...This is something people are working on. When a more efficient system is implemented, bot business will finish by itself. FD.
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Delegate power to @ocd, if you want new users to be rewarded and don't care about filling your own pocket
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