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RE: Defend Yourself Against @GrumpyCat by michaeldavid

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· @michaeldavid ·
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This makes a lot of sense. Also remember that grumpy buys votes himself. Not buying votes is unfortunately not a sure fire way to not get down voted. He seems much more concerned with late voting. 

 It's definitely his right to self vote, however that was the last big fight here and now it's perfectly acceptable so what's next? Hell transisto even used to run a bot that down voted self votes and people applauded it. 

The one thing that has caused so much of an uproar with grumpy is an obvious whale intentionally hurting minnows. No matter the reason that looks bad anywhere. It makes smaller fish really scared to be here also. This platform cannot thrive on fear.  

Themarkymark  has a great point, most large whales did not get there by powering up earnings, many of them simply mined their coin or bought it ridiculously cheap. 

Powering up is very important but for some its simply a luxury.  Also, If people would rather make trouble and drama then work together then the long term of steemit won't matter anyway. Who in their right mind would want to join/stay on a platform claiming freedom and decentralization that is clearly dictated monarchy and economic social hierarchy?

In a system entirely based on currency it is crazy to think that people won't try to find creative ways to make it. 

If steemit creators are actually behind grumpy these tactics are even more unwarranted. If people like @Dan or other creators would have come with a proposal or even a rule for that matter they would've gotten a much better and more positive response from basically anyone here. Hell they created the place, why wouldn't people listen to them?

The senseless harming of innocent small fish is simply not required. 

Ever since I came here people have been bitching about other people doing this or that wrong... saying that this or that will ruin steemit if not kept in check...

The only way to keep slaves when you are vastly out numbered by them is to keep them arguing and fighting each other.  

The only thing that will surely ruin steemit the way it has ruined basically every nation and almost any good thing on this planet is intolerance.  Working together is the only way to ensure steemits long term future.
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@erodedthoughts ·
Dan has left steemit long ago and has publicly said it is shit and he will build it better on EOS, so why not fuck it up for everyone?
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@michaeldavid ·
haha, ya never know I guess.
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@grumpycat · (edited)
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>  Also remember that grumpy buys votes himself.

Interesting, I brought votes twice to make sure my two public service announcements were seen by as many people as possible.

I guess I'll forever regret it.

> The one thing that has caused so much of an uproar with grumpy is an obvious whale intentionally hurting minnows.

This has nothing to do with whale vs minnows. I'm even sad to say I've been discriminating against "whales" by hitting them stronger.
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@imjustsaying ·
I personally wish that there were no upvote bots. The way I look at it is, it double or triple gouges the reward pool. I personally don't use them, because a for mentioned reason. I understand why people do use them, and I have no ill will against them. I just wish that they didn't exist. 

I'm to new to know all the ins and outs of all of this so I try not to take sides. Please try to be careful when down voting people. :) Also please don't hate me for commenting this. I do believe that you are doing what you feel is best. Have a lovely day.
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@r351574nc3 · (edited)
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> I personally wish that there were no upvote bots. The way I look at it is, it double or triple gouges the reward pool. I personally don't use them, because a for mentioned reason. I understand why people do use them, and I have no ill will against them. I just wish that they didn't exist.

Another way to look at it is that whales are going to claim the most from the reward pool no matter what. Voting bots are a way that they allow minnows access to what they normally wouldn't. 2 years ago, the reward pool was available to everyone one. There weren't whales yet, so it was more open. Now that there are whales, they claim the most. Also, there's inflation on top of that. Minnows don't have a chance at the reward pool. Bots allow the the chance people had 2 years ago. Here's another way to look at it

Whale A and whale B could just self-vote and take money from the pool that way. Instead, they delegate SP to a voting bot and minnows are allowed access to it. Further, the voting bot is backed by a community of curators that blacklist bad content and promote good content the way whales A and B wouldn't have before. Which do you think is better now? Bots or no bots? 

Without bots it's just self-voting whales like @grumpycat abusing the pool. With bots, we have some people allowing minnows access to the pool and curation communities.

You could say, why not the whales build curation communities? Do you see @grumpycat building any communities? LOL
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@michaeldavid ·
In your mind it may not. However that is not what the public sees, or the minnows that you have hurt.

I have seen you going after some whales as of lately. Not sure why that makes you sad but it was nice to see you flagging abusers for a change.

We are working diligently to get the abusers taken care of, especially from using bots. You really should work with us. We've made great strides. With your help we could go even further.
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@grumpycat ·
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> The one thing that has caused so much of an uproar with grumpy is an obvious whale intentionally hurting minnows.

At which point did GrumpyCompliance claim to give different treatment to different size of accounts?
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@r351574nc3 ·
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> Interesting, I brought votes twice to make sure my two public service announcements were seen by as many people as possible.

Yeah.  Horrible idea.
1. Anyone that read it thought 
    * It was a joke
    * Too noob to understand what you were ranting about
1. A lot of people still didn't read it.

In the end, it was brought on by the same mentality as 6th day votes. You wanted change to come too soon instead of taking more time and spreading around information longer, you were in a hurry and needed change to happen too soon. Just like people that use the 6th day bots. No matter what, in the end, you're just another one of them.
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@the-resistance ·
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We want to resist you without losing our respect...But if you lie, we will no longer be able to respect you.
A simple analysis of blockchain gives with how much you hit minnows and how much you hit whales.

>steem.api.getAccountHistory('grumpycat', -1, 10000, function(err,result) {
console.log(result.length);
for (let i = 0; i < result.length; i++) {
    if ((result[i][1].op[0] == 'vote')&&(result[i][1].op[1].voter='grumpycat')&&(result[i][1].op[1].weight<0)&&(result[i][1].op[1].author !='grumpycat')) {
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Anyone who codes this script can see that you have hit the minnows much more than whales.
Unlike politics, there are no lies in the blockchain.

@The-Resistance
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@grumpycat ·
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Why would I flag minnows more than whales?

I gave no fuck to check account size before flagging.
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