Ethereum Fork: Step-by-Step Guide to Safely Splitting your ETH/ETC by pauls

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ethereum · @pauls · Jul 24 '16

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Ethereum Fork: Step-by-Step Guide to Safely Splitting your ETH/ETC

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<h2>Background</h2>
<p>Recently the Ethereum network <a href="https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/07/20/hard-fork-completed/">successfully forked</a> it's protocol so as to return the compromised funds taken from <a href="https://daohub.org/">the DAO smart contract</a> and return them to DAO token holders.</p>
<p>While there was a healthy amount of debate and disagreement, eventually most of the Ethereum network switched to the hard fork. However those strongly against the hard fork have decided to maintain the pre-fork chain and reject the new chain. Thus the <a href="https://ethereumclassic.github.io/">Ethereum Classic</a> project (ETC) was born.</p>
<p>As of yesterday <a href="https://www.poloniex.com">Poloniex</a>, the largest ETH exchange, <a href="https://twitter.com/Poloniex/status/757068619234803712">announced</a> that they have added market support for Ethereum classic.</p>
<p>What this means is that if you were holding ETH before the hard fork, <strong>your tokens now exist in 2 separate realities</strong>: ETH and ETC. Markets exist for both so you are free to hedge your bets on whichever version of the chain you think will be successful. <strong>You can essentially sell all of your ETC while maintaining all of your ETH, or vice-versa</strong>.</p>
<p>The problem is that separating your tokens on each chain carries risk. Specifically something called a <a href="http://vessenes.com/hard-fork-and-replay-concerns/">replay attack</a>. A number of solutions have been proposed and this post aims to walk you through one such method. While I make no guarantees for this method, I can confirm that I have used this method successfully using 5+ accounts. I'll be making use of smart contracts which you need to trust for this procedure, but I'll give a brief explanation of how they work.</p>
<h2>Prerequisities</h2>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases">Mist Wallet 0.8.1</a> with the Hard Fork option activated (when prompted on startup, select 'Yes')</li>
  <li>Loaded Mist account(s) with ETH that you wish to split between the chains.</li>
  <li>Separate accounts for each chain. You can either create new accounts in Mist, or use another wallet provider/exchange. <strong>I would highly recommend only using Mist for one chain, and some other provider for the other</strong> (another computer will work as well). Otherwise you will need to switch between chains and re-sync Mist every time. I used Mist for ETH and Poloniex for ETC.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Step 1: Adding the Split Contract</h2>
<p>In order to split the same ETH into ETH/ETC on two separate accounts, we'll make use of a contract designed to split funds between chains and which was deployed before the hard fork. It is now in a different state on each chain and will send to a different address in each version. The <a href="http://etherscan.io/address/0xaa1a6e3e6ef20068f7f8d8c835d2d22fd5116444#code">contract details can be found here</a>. I encourage you to look over the code yourself and not trust my word for it. If you are unsure, have someone you trust check the code for you to ensure it's doing what you intend and that I'm not simply stealing your funds ;)</p>
<ul>
  <li>In Mist, navigate over to the '<strong>CONTRACTS</strong>' tab.</li>
  <li>Under '<strong>CUSTOM CONTRACTS</strong>', click '<strong>WATCH CONTRACT</strong>'</li>
  <li>Fill in these details:
    <ul>
      <li><strong>CONTRACT NAME</strong>:&nbsp;ReplaySafeSplit</li>
      <li><strong>CONTRACT ADDRESS</strong>: 0xaa1a6e3e6ef20068f7f8d8c835d2d22fd5116444</li>
      <li><strong>JSON INTERFACE</strong>:&nbsp;</li>
    </ul>
  </li>
</ul>
<pre><code>[{"constant":false,"inputs":[{"name":"targetFork","type":"address"},{"name":"targetNoFork","type":"address"}],"name":"split","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"bool"}],"type":"function"}]</code></pre>
<ul>
  <li>Click OK</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/VICwlpz.png" width="571" height="670"/></p>
<p>You should now have a new contract listed under <strong>CUSTOM CONTRACTS</strong> called '<strong>ReplaySafeSplit</strong>'.</p>
<p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/kCjpHr3.png" width="301" height="421"/></p>
<h2>Step 2: Calling the Split Function on the Contract</h2>
<p>Now that we've added the contract let's click on it. It should look something like this:</p>
<p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/zAYWINo.png" width="654" height="543"/></p>
<p>Under '<strong>WRITE TO CONTRACT</strong>' there's a dropdown with only 1 option called 'Split'. Let's select it.</p>
<p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/GQK9LX0.png" width="269" height="577"/></p>
<h3><strong>**THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART**</strong></h3>
<ul>
  <li>The '<strong>Target fork</strong>' field is the address of the <strong>ETH account </strong>you will use</li>
  <li>The '<strong>Target no fork</strong>' field is the address of the <strong>ETC account</strong> you will use</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>DON'T MIX THESE UP!!!!!</strong></p>
<p>Fill in these fields with your two separate accounts. Double check that they are correct. Send whatever amount of ETH you would like to split between the chains.</p>
<h2>Step 3: Keep Them Separate</h2>
<p>You now have ETH/ETC in separate accounts on each chain. In order to avoid confusion and mistakes keep these separate going forward. Don't send ETC into your ETH account or vice-versa.</p>
<p>Hope this was useful to some of you and that you can now make your own decisions about which version of Ethereum reality you choose, or choose not, to participate in.</p>
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@adamcleary · Jul 28 '16

Thanks Paul - when I did a test sending out the ETH it said "Multiple keys match keystore. Please remove duplicates from keystore"  - any thoughts/suggestions on what I could do would be greatly appreciated !

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@pauls · Jul 29 '16

Hmmm, I've heard of this on some earlier version of Mist. Try and upgrade to the latest version and see if it persists: https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

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@admin2017 · Jul 27 '16

Thank you !

👍 admin2017
👎 cheetah18

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@admin2017 · Jul 29 '16

Comment Please!
https://steemit.com/bikini/@admin2017/bikini-clad-off-duty-swedish-police-officer-arrests-pickpocket

👎 cheetah34

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@adstudio · Jul 27 '16

Hello, dear. If i mistake and confused &quot;Target fork&quot; and &quot;Target no fork&quot;. How can i release my funds?

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@campbell1978 · Jul 27 '16

Ill help but thats not really a question, What problem are you having?

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@allmonitors · Jul 28 '16

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/3864509.jpg

👍 pauls

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@amritenjoy · Aug 17 '16

I would love to see article like this with myetherwallet.com using as an example.  MyEtherwallet is easy and quick for someone who does not know programming.

👍 amritenjoy

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@anonblog · Jul 29 '16

Vitalik sharing steemit posts, LOVE IT!

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@aqlsam · Jul 30 '16

I'll give you my upvote.
pliss votes back
https://steemit.com/giveaway/@aqlsam/giveaway-apple-watch-come-restricted-stock

👎 pauls

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@au1nethyb1 · Jul 29 '16

Hey @pauls - thanks for inspiring my post -[https://steemit.com/steemit/@au1nethyb1/everyone-deserves-a-second-chance-on-steemit](https://steemit.com/steemit/@au1nethyb1/everyone-deserves-a-second-chance-on-steemit) I've linked to your post in it - and congrats on the link from Vitalik - I'm sure that brought a tonne of new eyes to steemit!

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@beervangeer · Jul 28 '16

$0.07

I dont like the hard fork

👍 beervangeer, watershed

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@beervangeer · Jul 28 '16

$0.08

what a mess

👍 beervangeer, watershed, coininstant, raginglikeaboss

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@beervangeer · Jul 28 '16

$0.08

people screwing up the system

👍 beervangeer, watershed, coininstant

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@watershed · Jul 29 '16

$0.02

Me either. I bought into the Eth ICO because of terms like immutability, uncensorable, etc. In our case, we can sell our eth and with those funds, purchase a much higher percentage of the etc platform.

👍 watershed, coininstant, dagelf, gegstore

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@beowulf · Jul 25 '16

Thank you for the straight forward instructions for doing the split contract. I will give this a try tomorrow. Thanks again!

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@madhatting · Jul 26 '16

Beware, careful.. dont do something you'll regret.

👍 beowulf

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@beowulf · Jul 26 '16

I'm regretting it.

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@beowulf · Jul 26 '16 (edited)

I'm showing zero balances in both wallets. Shit.

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@beowulf · Jul 29 '16 (edited)

...

👍 beowulf

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@bitwathcer · Jul 31 '16

Do you have any information on a programmatic way to tell which of your geth or parity nodes is running on the 'classic' or the Ethereum block chain?

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@bradm · Jul 27 '16

How do I split when I have both pure and pre-fork ETH associated with my address? So on the ETC chain explorer it's showing I have X amount and the forked chain shows the address with more (because it does). Do I need to execute the split contract on the full post-fork ETH balance?

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@pauls · Jul 27 '16

Let's say you have 100 ETH and 10 ETC. You should call the Split function using 10 ETH (minus gas costs). Now that address will have 90 ETH and 0 ETC. You can then send the remaining 90 ETH normally, without needing to worry about replays.

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@breastsono · Jul 30 '16

Thanks a lot! Finally i can withdraw all my ETC~

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@campbell1978 · Jul 27 '16

Wee bit of help please anyone??

I followed the guide to the letter, I used mist wallet 0.8.1 synced to forked chain and setup the contract and executed it, I tested using 1 ETH and split ETH to a second wallet on same laptop/chain and sent the ETC to poloniex,  The ETH showed in my new wallet within 1 minute so i assumed all was well and would work poloniex end too as i tripple checked i defo deposited to polo ETC deposit address, This was done 16 hours ago from now and still no ETC in poloniex but i still have my ETH? I had planned to just split them then sell all ETC and buy more ETH,

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@logic · Jul 27 '16

It seems like Poloniex may take up to 12 hours to process it. I waited 12hrs to get my ETC deposited. I hope this helps

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@campbell1978 · Jul 27 '16

Well over 12 hours now man,  Contract execution was 17 hours ago now..lol 
How do i track them down to see who has my ETC? :-o
Wanna sell before it goes back to 0...

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@pauls · Jul 28 '16 (edited)

Check your ETC balance. It's possible you didn't have any:  http://gastracker.io/addr/0x..... Then check the ETC address you sent to on gastracker to see if transaction was sent before. If it was and you haven't been credited, contact Poloniex with links to the transactions.

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@sailor · Jul 27 '16

thanks paul.

gastracker.io doesn't seem to have search functionality tho, so no way to use it to check ETC balances. am i missing something?

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@cashbeforefame · Apr 23 '18

Is this still relevant?

I have gone to the contract and it states WARNING: The compiled contract might be susceptible to ZeroFunctionSelector (very low-severity), DelegateCallReturnValue (low-severity), ECRecoverMalformedInput (medium-severity), SkipEmptyStringLiteral (low-severity), ConstantOptimizerSubtraction (low-severity), IdentityPrecompileReturnIgnored (low-severity), HighOrderByteCleanStorage (high-severity), OptimizerStaleKnowledgeAboutSHA3 (medium-severity), SendFailsForZeroEther (low-severity), DynamicAllocationInfiniteLoop (low-severity), OptimizerClearStateOnCodePathJoin (low-severity) Solidity compiler bugs.

How I am ever gonna split my ETH help

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@cryptotrends · Jul 30 '16

Works like a charm! Thanks for sharing!

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@cybercodetwins · Jul 29 '16

Thanx for the update on darkDAO, I read the article from previous about the hack on ETHC. it's great to know the owner got it back and there is a security update on what's going on andhow to do this.

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@daycrypter · Jul 30 '16 (edited)

Thank you Paul for the great breakdown. I was wondering if you (or anyone else) could just give me some quick advice. Im a very active day trader of crypto but my tech side is lacking. I still have my ETH on the genesis block and safely tucked away (off my computer) on the file I got from the ico. 
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@pauls · Jul 28 '16 (edited)

Not sure if I understand correctly. But first of all if you're using Mist 0.7.2, you're working on the pre-fork chain. However if you have genesis coins  and haven't moved them, you most definitely have both ETH and ETC. You can check on etherscan.io for your ETH balance on the forked chain. These should be identical if you haven't moved the ETH around.

You may want to consider moving those coins to a new wallet like Mist sooner rather than later, as the key format has changed since the early days. The keys are safe but in the future you might have an issue finding tools to make importing easy. If you'd like to discuss further, hit me up on twitter @paulszczesny0

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@daycrypter · Jul 30 '16 (edited)

Thanks very much paul thats great news, I'll be following your work and consider me a regular upvoter on your good content to come.  
Although only being a very small amount of coins you have eased my mind, thnx. Good tip on moving sooner than later too, I was wondering if they may become incompatible someday. I'll be looking more into the above process that you have laid out so well... and follow you on twitter. 
Cheers mate.

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@daycrypter · Jul 31 '16

Can anyone tell me if splitting with Mist and using Jaxx as the ETC wallet is OK. I have a Polo account but there seems to be delays with this process.

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@pauls · Jul 31 '16

I don't think Jaxx supports ETC yet.

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@dekrypt · Jul 25 '16

Can you think of a way to check if your have been a victim of replay?  As of the record block my ether was in my mist browser account, post fork i moved back to the exchange, I synced today to the old chain and my account shows empty.  Is there a location where you can look up transactions on the ETHC chain that you know of?

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@negrodomus · Jul 26 '16

The replay would have been done by someone you sent your eth to, as i understand it, you can just check your own transactions and find who could have split off the classic. Thing is, it's theirs cause you gave it to them, accidentally yes but still, its crypto.
It's still worth asking for it back though, I think an exchange or reputable business would give it to you.

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@pauls · Jul 25 '16

Which exchange? If you sent ETH to an exchange post-fork that means both ETH and ETC were sent there.  Poloniex splits it for you but I'm not sure about the other exchanges.

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@madhatting · Jul 26 '16

This is a PUMP and DUMP **FUD** It has no support of the ethereum community. The people pumping it seem to be bitcoin enthusiasts, not smart contract developers. This gives ETC absolutely NO long term value.

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@didier87000 · Jul 29 '16

This article helped me a lot, thanks for this one :)

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@dimox · Jul 28 '16

excelent post

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@domino · Jul 29 '16

$0.11

good job!

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@eboman · Aug 7 '16

Can I ask a weird question??

If I were to set up Mist on a different computer with a different username, to keep the roaming profiles from getting "mushed" up (yeah....I know that's pretty technical term...LOL).
Set the new version to be PRE-FORK....wouldn't that essentially be a ETC Wallet?  
Couldn't I simply make a completely new account and transfer ALL of the money out of the original account (the one with ETH and ETC) and into the new one?  

Do the same on the computer with the POST-FORK wallet and now have two completely isolated wallets (one on a machine running PRE=ETH and one on a machine running POST=ETC)?  The original "mixed" account would have zero balance in both chains.

Just an idea...

P.S.  I tried doing this three times and, unless there's a "lag" somewhere getting the transaction from the Post-Fork ETH blockchain to the Pre-Fork ETC blockchain, I can only see where the coins are moving around on the ETH blockchain.  All searches on the Gastracker.io website (the ETC blockchain explorer) don't show any activity in the original account or the new account that I created using Mist with the Pre-Fork option used.

P.P.S.  This is a fantastic guide.  In fact, I didn't realize I could get my hands on any ETC coins, so this made my day (if I could just figure it out...LOL).

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@el-grimey · Jul 26 '16

So I followed the steps and have everything ready to split, but I&quot;m a bit worried. Before the Hard Fork I had x ETH and after the fork and getting my refund I now have xx ETH (old balance plus refund). If I send xx ETH in the split contract will I still have xx ETH or will I loose some ETH.

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@pauls · Jul 28 '16 (edited)

So you'll want to use the split contract to send the amount you have in both ETH and ETC. You can check your ETC balance here: http://gastracker.io/addr/0x..... If you try sending more ETC than you have, the ETC transaction will fail.

So let's say you have 100 ETH and 10 ETC. You should call the Split function using 10 ETH (minus gas costs). Now that address will have 90 ETH and 0 ETC. You can then send the remaining 90 ETH normally, without needing to worry about replays.

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@el-grimey · Aug 9 '16

Hey thanks, that makes sense. I ended up using a different method though.

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@elijahpri · Jul 30 '16

Thank you for the post! Looking forward to see how Ethereum goes after the fork and with Ethereum Classic.

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@eric-boucher · Jul 27 '16

$0.04

Thanks for sharing such knowledge with us, it is well needed!  Namaste   :)

👍 eric-boucher, pauls, future24, makimoto
👎 piramida

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@future24 · Jul 29 '16

Yes I didn´t know this too and I have some ETH... :) Thanks @pauls

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@ethhawk · Jul 28 '16

How can we do this on Poloniex?

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@exyle · Jul 26 '16 (edited)

I followed your guide. I tried it with 7 eth first. I send my 7 eth to a new adress in my mist browser and the etc to to my etc deposit adress on Poloniex. At first i saw in the Classic blockchain explorer that the 7 etc arrived. But they haven;t shown up in my poloniex account yet.

http://home.kpn.nl/bonge008/BLOG/deposit/1.jpg

About 30 min later I checked the same eth adress on the Classic blockchain explorer and I see this:

http://home.kpn.nl/bonge008/BLOG/deposit/2.jpg

ITS ALMOST EMPTY! What could have happened here?

My eth arrived fine in the new adress of my mist browser.

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@pauls · Jul 26 '16

Did it arrive in your Poloniex account? After they receive the ETC it will likely move to their cold storage.

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@exyle · Jul 27 '16

You are right. the 7 i send arrived after 2 hours. I then send the rest of my eth trough the same contract. It never arrived (its been 7-8 hours or so).

I think i might have messed up. Because i had more eth than etc (because of ETH comming back from the DAO).

So lets say I had:

50eth and 40etc on the same initial adres. I filled in the contract that i wanted to send 49 eth to a new eth adres and the etc to poloniex. But I think the etc transaction could never run because i didn;t have enough tokens. Sadly i can;t figure out were they are. Should consider them lost or are they floating around somewere?

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@finfree · Jul 28 '16

Excellent guide!! 
However, since it is now already post-fork. It is very likely people have different ETC and ETH amounts in their wallet (just like myself). It is better to have a reminder to people when splitting ETC and ETH.

For example, if Peter has 100 ETH and 99 ETC in his wallet. 
Check ETH amount with http://etherscan.io/
Check ETC amount with http://gastracker.io/
Split only 98.99 ETH/ETC to avoid any potential error due to insufficient fund in ETC, taking into account of transaction fee.

👍 johnerfx, daycrypter, johnerminer, finfree

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@framelalife · Jul 27 '16

I'm glad somebody explained this on here. Thanks!

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@fran2k · Jul 28 '16

I made a spanish translation & adaptation of your useful post. https://steemit.com/ethereum/@fran2k/ethereum-fork-guia-para-separar-seguramente-tus-eth-etc Thanks!

👍 pauls

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@fusan · Jul 28 '16 (edited)

thanks!
try it tomorrow.

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@future24 · Jul 29 '16

Thank you for the information, I will try it. -upvoted

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@gafty · Aug 20 '16

I try to follow the tutorial and make a split...I did it yesterday, but nothing happend. Please help me with this. Thanks in advance.
http://etherscan.io/tx/0x1623c96f69598d1b1cda871a3f76aa13de0808cf469e0207b5ee7cb65f0b87ce

👍 gafty

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@gannie · Aug 1 '16

good post!

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@gekko · Jul 27 '16

good post @pauls 8]

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@gowest · Jul 31 '16

1 vote 4 you
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@greykieser · Jul 29 '16

@pauls  I have two computers - computer #1 has the Mist Wallet with my ETH/ETC pre-split. I answered yes to post hard fork question when installing. Computer #2 will have a Mist Wallet as well. This is where I wish to send my ETC.  A couple of questions:

A) After I send to the contract, am I correct that my ETH will simply come back to computer#1 and thus my balance will stay the same? 
B) After I send to the contract, am I correct in saying that ETC will go to computer#2 from which I will be able to do anything with it   (except send back to computer#1)?
C) So, if I have 20 ETH in Mist wallet on computer#1 and I send 2 ETH to the contract, my balances should show 20ETH on computer1 and 2ETC on computer2?
D) When installing Mist Wallet on computer #2 do I need to answer YES to the question about hardfork or no? 

Thanks!!
Greg

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@pauls · Jul 31 '16

It depends what addresses you use for the fields. I would recommend creating a new account on Computer #1 and using that address for the '**target fork**' field in the contract. Same goes for Computer #2, and use that account for '**target no fork**'. 

When installing Mist on computer #2, you should select **NO** to the hardfork question and that will put you on the ETC chain.

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@gustavopasquini · Jul 30 '16

I'll give you my upvote.
Please reciprocate in my post  https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@gustavopasquini/hello-steemers-new-member-introduced-in-steemit-community-video

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@hackecon · Jul 27 '16

Anybody have an explanation as to why people still support ETC even when it was greatly outnumbered by supporters of ETH.

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@mynewsteemit · Jul 29 '16

Some people believe ETH should not have forked to recover ETH lost to the DOW hacker.  They may have other reasons but this is the most common I've seen.

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@miguel12 · Jul 30 '16

Naaaa, both eth and etc are owned by Vitalik Buterin, but always is good to represents a liberty theather.

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@helpmepls9 · Aug 2 '16 (edited)

Fixed 
Thanks

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@hqbanana · Jul 31 '16

Thanks!

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@hrottie · Jul 27 '16

Well, saying apart from anything.
I would recommend everybody stay out of ETC, in my opinion it is not trust-worthy coin, to invest safely.

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@icedsnake · Jul 26 '16

For some reason this is not working for me. I get the balance back in my ETH account but not in my ETC one. Any idea why?

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@pauls · Jul 26 '16

Check your balance on both chains. (Basic ETC explorer here: http://explorer.ethereumclassic.com/). It may be the case that your balances are not the same on both chains. For instance, if you've received any refunds from the DAO withdrawal contract those funds won't be valid on the ETC chain. Could also be that you received some ETH after the fork and someone has already split the funds.

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@cellard0or · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

It should not be a problem if balances do not match, right? At least as long as I have more ETH than ETC and try to send less ETC than I currently have. Unfortunately it worked that way for me a few times but not the last time, so I have some ETC stuck right now /:

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@sean-king · May 10 '17

I'm having the exact same issue and my balance was most definitely the same on both chains.  I just claimed both balances from the crowd sale earlier this week and had made no other transactions until I tried the split transaction with 1 ether.  The ETH was returned by the split contract but the ETC was not.  At least not yet.  Been two yours plus.

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@pipilang · Jul 26 '16

same here!

with small amounts it worked, but when i tried bigger ones they never reached polo!

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@investing · Jul 27 '16

This is a perfect example of how ethereum has failed. They pledged themselves to live by code and autonomy. Then once there was a screw up they bailout like a central bank. No wonder classic is running. Cryptocurrency is about that power not being reversible, even if the majority wishes it. They have gone against the whole purpose of the project. ETC is the real ether

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@johnerfx · Jul 29 '16

This might be the easiest solution:
https://steemit.com/ethereum/@johnerfx/how-to-easy-split-eth-and-etc-using-bitfinex-test-it-first
@pauls What do you think?

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@pauls · Jul 30 '16

This seems to work for now. Polo was doing this as well but ive heard that they no longer do.

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@jwiz168 · Aug 1 '16

We must learn a lesson that codes of smart contracts should be intensely scrutinized before releasing it . TheDAO affected the ecosystem of Ethereum that it had come to this idea. Investors might lose confidence .

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@kemitwarrior · Jul 31 '16

With all of it's growing pains, Ethereum continues to lead the pack and looks to be the choice of Crypto and other Digital products.  Companies like YOCoin, (https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@mrmel/yocoin-safe-secure-and-stable) and Steemit are full speed ahead with Ethereum.... the future is now!

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@knozaki2015 · Jul 27 '16

very handy guide. thanks for putting this together. i have profited from the ETH split, as i had a huge amount of ETC today, even i already had sold my ETH .

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@locoloco · Aug 23 '16

Sorry for this question, I know is a newbie question, but at the end I don't understand exactly what I need to do for split.

I have 2 ETH and 7 ETC in the same account.

Ok, I followed the tutorial, use my main account as Target Fork, (Vitalik said is his entry that it's possible) and uses my ETC account in polo in the "Target no fork" field.

Then I send 1 ETH to test.

My questions is.. I need to have the same ammount of ETH and ETC to split correctly and have all my 7 ETC in my Polo account?

At the moment I can't see any ETC in my Polo account, and I have the same ETH and ETC in my account.

To me the contract is confused, why you can't split the ETC only instead send ETH?. I don't understand this.

👍 locoloco

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@logic · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

It doesn't seem to be working!!! I had few dozens ETH in my Mist Wallet before hard fork. I upgraded to 8.1 few hours after hard fork. I did two tests with spliting 1 ETH each time. 1 ETHs reached my other ETH address but nothing appeared in ETC address.

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@pauls · Jul 28 '16 (edited)

ETC won't show up in Mist. Check balance here:  http://gastracker.io/addr/0x...

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@logic · Jul 28 '16

It's ok. It finally showed up in Poloniex after 14 hrs :-)

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@madhatting · Jul 26 '16

This is a PUMP and DUMP **FUD** It has no support of the ethereum community. The people pumping it seem to be bitcoin enthusiasts, not smart contract developers. This gives ETC absolutely NO long term value.

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@deloreas · Jul 27 '16

There is a dev team forming around ETC, including former ETH developers. ETC has an immutable blockchain and still the same characteristics and functions as ETH, this gives ETC long term value.

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@pauls · Jul 26 '16

That doesn't change the fact the ETC currently holds some market value. If people do not believe in the ETC chain then it would be a good idea to dump those ETC coins in order to accumulate more ETH.

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@madhatting · Jul 27 '16

Does this work for ether stored in the DAO or do we lose out for not cashing out our tokens?

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@pauls · Jul 28 '16

Anything that required the hard fork to retrieve out of the DAO will not be valid on the ETC chain.

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@future24 · Jul 29 '16

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@makimoto · Jul 27 '16

very insightful thank you!!!!

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@martin1 · Jul 26 '16

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@anonblog · Jul 29 '16

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@fusan · Jul 28 '16 (edited)

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@future24 · Jul 29 '16

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@knozaki2015 · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

This is really great and is living proof that all other Crypto and Socialmediaplatforms are monitoring our Steemit Family very carefully. They should, because there will only be one form of socialmediaplatform, the usergenerated and compensated one ;)

keep up the good posts coming!

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@mynameisbrian · Jul 28 '16

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@mattysoup · Jul 30 '16

@pauls is it possible to amend the JSON Interface of the splitter contract such that non-integer increments can be split? seems like the smallest unit of eth that can be sent to the split contract is 1.0 ETC...

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@miguel12 · Jul 29 '16

I split very easy with myetherwallet.com , only send to poloniex, and ready.

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@mining1 · Jul 30 '16

I sent ether to this contract two hours ago and I have yet to receive my ether or my etc.....

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@mranderson · Jul 29 '16

I would be careful with Poloniex and ETH/ETC.  There is something going on that just doesn't feel right to me:
https://steemit.com/poloniex/@mranderson/poloniex-has-stolen-my-eth-bate-n-switch-eth-for-etc-and-will-not-respond-to-my-support-tickets

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@mynameisbrian · Jul 28 '16

Great post! Doesn't apply to me as I sold all of my eth before the hard fork because I just knew there was going to be trouble, but this is needed information for those still holding eth and now etc. This also demonstrates how far crypto has to go before it is ready for the masses. There is no way most people could do this ^^^ on their own.

👍 cmditch

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@mynewsteemit · Jul 29 '16

Great job, thank you! I did have a problem when sending ETH to Coinbase, after 12 hours it still hasn't showed up. However when I tested using a mist wallet it worked fine. I have to assume this is an issue on Coinbases side as I checked the transactions and they appear to have worked.

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@neeeeeeext · Jul 26 '16

$0.20

This doesn't seem to work if I am trying to send from a multisig contract. Can anybody confirm?

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@cmditch · Jul 29 '16 (edited)

I had a similar issue, but found the account approval/signature had to take place on both chains. I downloaded the non-fork chain on a different user account in my laptop. When I switched over to that user and booted up Ethereum-no-fork, there was an approval sitting there. Hope that helps someone. :)

👍 dagelf

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@slim · May 24 '17

when does the fork/nonfork option show up?

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@jeffanthonyfds · Jul 27 '16

Can you clarify 'this'? Multisig will require the correct amount of signatures to send Ether, on either chain.

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@pauls · Jul 26 '16

Can you confirm you have a balance on both chains?

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@onighost · Jul 30 '16

So I used this and split it once fine. Did the same thing to split all of it and it transferred my eth to the other account, but didnt send my etc to the address specific but instead just left it in the account. So now I have like 2.5 eth in an account along with like 100 etc. Any idea how to send the etc to my poloenix account? Do I need to reload mist on the not forked chain, open that wallet, then it should show my balance and I can send it to polo?

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@pauls · Jul 31 '16

If you have ETC and ETH in the same account then you should run the split contract again. Send 2.5 ETH (minus gas costs). In the 'target forked' field you can send it back to your wallet and then use the 'target no fork' to send to Poloniex. You should then have only ETH left in your account and ETC send to Polo.

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@pierregi · 2025-06-22T21:26:00+00:00 (edited)

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@pierregi · 2025-06-22T21:23:21+00:00 (edited)

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@pipokinha · Jul 28 '16

Thanks man, I was looking for this on google and didn't find anything. Looks like steemit could be a searching engine as well.

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@princeola · Oct 31 '17

thanks for this very informative post,thou it as  been Posted  since last year but sincerely this reLLY HELP..**KUDOS**

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@psamuelson · Jul 30 '16

Will either chain simply make a fix for this on the next hard fork, say for instance in moving to proof of stake?

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@pseudonymouse · Jul 26 '16

Seems shady to me, too risky... I think if I try this I'll lose the ETH related to that account and stay with the ETC (or lose both).
Nice information though.

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@rentko · Nov 29 '17

Would the nearest update in ETH make any change to network fee for sending tokens? I lately make some checks and the fees for sending tokens on various exchanges are starting with 0,5 for a token and in some cases are close to 5-15, which in the long term (especially with growing price) make those tokens useless.

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@sean-king · May 10 '17

$2.18

Pauls, I just tried this today with 1 ether and...it didn't seem to work.  Followed the steps exactly and had @lukestokes double check my work.   The ETH was returned by the contract to the output address, but the ETC has never shown up.  It's been over two hours.  The contract shows as fully executed with dozens of confirmation but the ETC balance still shows as zero both in my wallet and on the ETC block explorer.  Any thoughts?  I'd be grateful for any guidance you could give. Perhaps it just takes a long time for some reason?

👍 sean-king

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@sean-king · May 10 '17

BTW, I'm using MyEtherWallet (with Trezor) for the ETC wallet and the latest version of Mist for the ETH wallet, both on the same computer.

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@sinofmen · Jul 26 '16

I have a question. I am a miner but I don't know a lot about it. Now my question is, do I only send the amount of ethereum  that I had at the time of the fork? Or can I submit it all to be split, even the extra ethereum that has been mined since the fork?  I have been mining on the forked chain.

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@pauls · Jul 26 '16

The newly mined coins will not be valid on the ETC chain. You can check your ETC balance here: http://explorer.ethereumclassic.com/

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@sinofmen · Jul 26 '16 (edited)

So I should only split the amount that is shown on the ETC chain? And leave the rest behind?

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@sokal · Aug 3 '16

Thank you for posting this guide. I have successfully tested and traded two small transactions one for 2 ETC and one for 25 ETC, but on my third attempt which was the majority of my Ethereum, the transaction is lost in space. I guess two out of three ain't bad.

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@stathis1 · Jan 3 '18

I'm trying to follow the steps but on the final step on the contract, there's no 'send'  order and no space box to specify how many eth i want to send. Is there sth I'm missing? ![Untitled.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmVD71WcNeMpxLvGxijXXnA6T6c6x47rMuZK8aWgytVwMb/Untitled.jpg)

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@stea90 · Jul 29 '16

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@steemokto · Jun 29 '17

Hey @pauls I really appreciate your work. I don't know if you noticed but ETC-transactions are not being executed. Maybe you know a way to fix that. Thanks

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@streetiebird · Jul 29 '16

Noob Question: If I have ETH in a GDAX account/wallet and it existed prior to the fork, is it still possible to split using Mist? I assume I have to send my ETH from GDAX to a Mist account/wallet??

Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm really just interested in splitting my ETC and getting it onto an exchange so I can sell it. But I've never done anything even halfway complicated with coin, and have never used Mist...

Any help would be appreciated!

👍 upsetquasar

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@upsetquasar · Jul 31 '16 (edited)

Same dumb question :). I downloaded Mist, synced, deposited 2 ETH from my GDAX account which I haven't touched since weeks before the fork and not associated with the DAO, and ran the split contract for 1.5 Ether.  1.5 ETH (less gas) deposited back into the mist wallet and nothing in Polo yet.  Can anyone who has used this method sending funds from GDAX to Mist to Polo confirm?

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@sukafrukt · Jul 31 '16

becomes more popular))

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@sulabh2020 · Jul 11 '17

Hi Pauls,
I came though this post of your while searching for the problem :

"I am new to ETH and tokens. I have one wallet to hold ETH with one of the exchange (EthexIndia) in India. Few days back i heard about ICO of OpenANX (OAX) and though to purchase the same. I purchased OAX tokens from contribution of ETH using my exchange wallet. Now i cannot see tokens in my wallet. After looking into the transaction hash, i found tokens are allocated to my Exchange (EthexIndia) and not to me, because sender address was exchange address.

I checked with my exchange and asked them to return those tokens, but they have no idea on how to return or split the token into ETH or any solution by which they can return my tokens because the exchange only deals in ETH transaction."

I am currently looking for a solution similar to what you suggested in this post, can you please suggest me something?

Kr
Sulabh

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@thedoctor · Jul 26 '16

Im not happy with ETC. would like to hear others opinions.
https://steemit.com/ethereum/@thedoctor/what-the-fork-wtf-why-etc-is-killing-all-altcoins

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@himalayanguru · Jul 26 '16

well look. everyone has the freedom to create whatever they want to create! The classic guys seized the opportunity to create Ethereum classic. However, it too has a very dark stain since the thief stole some of their coins. I just hope that the white hat attack can resume and not let the thief take out the ETC.

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@tonka · Nov 17 '17

I am using Ethereum Wallet 0.9.2. Under 'WRITE TO CONTRACT' I cannot specify the balance I want to split and send. I can see adresses and "EXECUTE"  button. The input box is completely missing. Any advice, please?

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@tonka · Nov 17 '17

A solution was to import the Private key into Exodus. ETH Classic and ETH  split. There is no need for splitting contract any longer.

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@ronc403 · Dec 26 '17

I've downloaded Exodus, sent ETH to Exodus from my Mist wallet.  So hoe do I send my ETC or split the ETC from the ETH via Exodus?

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@ubg · Jul 29 '16

It's retarded that we even have 2 chains at the same time. Both have the same functionality.

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@upsetquasar · Jul 31 '16

I'm not sure if this is going to work for me being that my Ether originates from a GDAX account, but this was my first exposure to Mist, as well as creating/executing a contract.  Even for someone with my extremely limited exposure it was pretty easy.

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@pauls · Jul 31 '16

Yes there's some uncertainty regarding GDAX balances and ETC.  You a can check ETC balance using http://gastracker.io/addr/0x....

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@xdark22 · May 31 '17

I love ethereum but it is vastly complex. The reason I like BTC isn't just because it was the first decentralized crypto,

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@zaleks · Aug 20 '16

This is very useful, thanks. We needed it.

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