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RE: Thoughts on an Ethereum Classic Roadmap by sressler

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· @sressler ·
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I'm not technically astute enough to weigh the details but the whole creation of ETC effectively as an accidental side effect of the DAO hack, just smells very bad. I totally agree that the prime issue is non-technical...the community is fractured and consensus is a human problem not a technical one (just like the bitcoin block size issue). The crypto-currency and blockchain worlds are complicated enough the DAO hack and the resulting ETC creation are not good things.  Of course the whole issue of the immutability of the chain is a real issue and I suspect is the philosophy behind sticking with the old-chain (classic).  It's certainly a mess and I tend to think that ETC should just go away.
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@charleshosk ·
Would you be happy if ETC diverged and became it's own currency and movement?
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@fldammy ·
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As a ETH guppy swimming over in the nanopool, I would appreciate if ETC would do just that.  I may or may not agree that a hardfork was the best option, but majority of leadership went in that direction.  As such, I am grabbing a couple extra filled canteens and mount up for a long ride in the desert.   To me, the exploiter(s) had two goals, to either kill Ethereum or to cripple it.  Had this been about money, the exploiter(s) would have gone for much smaller amount and leached as long as they could while Ethereum coin was soaring in value.  Instead they went with a brazen amount that would be noticeable and grab headlines to spook people/money away from Ethereum while creating chaos within the Ethereum community.   I understand people are standing on their principals with ETC, it's a big world and room enough for everyone.  Be as that may, ETC is the splinter from the main herd and the main herd is not coming back to merge back in with the splinter group.  ETC continuance is hurting ETH, IMO and as such is assisting the exploiter(s)' primary goal.   Yes this is an awful mess, but please, please, stop the bleeding.  Sew up the wounds and lets move forward to our separate destinies.
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@sressler ·
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Very unclear, if it's underlying tech is the same as ETH then why bother, if it diverges into something unique then fine sure. Although I think its very existence diminishes the appeal of ETH and confuses people who would have to be clear about what's the difference between the two. Soooo unless there is a clear difference then I'd prefer it goes away. If it evolves into something truly different and unique make up a new name.
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@nikolai ·
It'll be the same, but like, without bailouts
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@hexborg ·
>I'm not technically astute enough to weigh the details but the whole creation of ETC effectively as an accidental side effect of the DAO hack

You are mistaking a **bailout hardfork** with the event that originated it. We can say ETC is just a side effect of dinosaurs being extinct, how far do you want to go?

> just smells very bad

I would say the same about the conflict of interest displayed by the EF, and don't get me started on the whole ordeal with RHG *aka* EF.

>  totally agree that the prime issue is non-technical...the community is fractured and consensus is a human problem not a technical one (just like the bitcoin block size issue).

That's why the machine code has to be impartial. Otherwise I have a new coin for you: The Votecoin. The Votecoin (TV) is composed of a single central server where people can log in and vote on the state of the blockchain. How awesome is that? We can have consensus without wasting electricity on number-crunching.

>The crypto-currency and blockchain worlds are complicated enough the DAO hack and the resulting ETC creation are not good things.

No doubt the DAO hack was bad, but the silver lining is that we got to see we shouldn't trust a central authority with as much power as we've given the EF. On whose point of view ETC creation was not a good thing?

> Of course the whole issue of the immutability of the chain is a real issue and I suspect is the philosophy behind sticking with the old-chain (classic).

No doubt, Sherlock. That was the whole point...

>It's certainly a mess and I tend to think that ETC should just go away.

I tend to think you shouldn't be here.
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