I'm a Narrative Focused Guy!! and maybe an explorer~

I agree that the presentation is the most important thing in any game, the thing is... the Gameplay plays big role in the presentation more than the graphics/animation/voice acting/and so on.... 

A Game with a gameplay that "feel good"  even if not original.... can get away with a simple Graphics.... But the Gameplay must feel good compared to the overall game experience.

Some companies add many elements to their games just because these elements are popular (Like RPG elements in a shooter game/ or many side quests that are just fetch quests that the hero doesn't have a narritive reason to do). Yes, they make the game sell more but they also make the game unfocused and they cost the company to make too.  **The Game can be cheaper and might even give the company more profit-to-cost value, if they only put the elements the game needs not every single popular thing to it.**

I love story driven action games like Tomb Raider and Uncharted. That's also why I wrote a post about the upcoming Uncharted game! Check it out:
https://steemit.com/news/@bartb/preview-uncharted-the-lost-legacy-12-minutes-of-girl-on-girl-action
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Hello!

I think the question of what makes a good game is extremely important. I know many people REALLY need exciting gameplay, or gameplay which is at least involving.

For me, the story is probably one of the most important factors. Of course, in a game like League of Legends you cannot expect much of a story, apart from the nuggets of lore which the developers create, and I do not expect there to be much. However, even then, the pieces of storytelling that ARE there win over my soul.

It's part of the reason why I love Dragon Age, from Bio Ware, since the game is SO rich in lore, culture, religion, spirituality, politics, war, conflict, personal growth... it involves not just my brain and reaction time, but my mind and heart.

I'm doing a play-through of Dragon Age 2 now, which I've begun to upload on here. Everyone is welcome to come and join me.

But yes... the Story and the Plot are really important for me. As well as how much impact I have on the game world as well. That's a winning factor for me. (Skyrim falls into that, since all the decisions you take in game barely have any visible impact on your surroundings)

I don't game much anymore but I loved Fallout 3 for the choices and random events. Also, I am big on soundtracks and believe it is an extremely important aspect for immersion.

My take:
Story is backbone, most game ideas need a good story

Gameplay needs to be fluid, and be appealing and fun (not too hard)

Open-worldness can add on to numerous other aspects, adding an element of exploration and freedom, like Fallout 4 and previous Bethesda games

Soundtrack is an important part of a game, enriching the experience

>However, I will say while find Persona and Witcher to have a good enough balance of gameplay and narrative.

You said it right there. The most memorable games are the ones that deliver good story through gameplay. Persona 5 is so excellent because it delivers its theme so well through it's mechanics. To take away all the gameplay from it would leave it as an above average story.

Great read. Thank you for that! upvoted :)

I think you are understanding the word gameplay in a different word then most people do. You take it as purely mechanics, but most people understand it as - is the game fun to play.
And some things you don't consider mechanics can even be easily considered mechanics - for example: the exploration and puzzles in Zelda are certainly mechanics of the game. They are part of how you play the game. If they aren't executed in a fun way, they make the gameplay less fun.

 The same for narrative (or how I call it - storytelling) is also a part of how the game plays. And again, if the story is not integrated well, it will disrupt the gameplay making it bad.

When people make the argument "gameplay over everything" what they usually are talking is the fact that some companies just go for a game that look visually spectacular but isn't really that fun to play.

Anyways - Great post for starting a nice debate! Would you mind if I included it in today's "best of gaming"?

I think that it depends on the player that plays the game as well. I do enjoy different types of games for different aspects, you can usually raise the difficulty to get some more out of the gameplay of a certain game. But obviously different genres don't need to be focust only on that. Witcher 3 has turned into an old time favorite for me really fast but I do enjoy games that are focused a lot more on the gameplay part as Darkest dungeon for example, or online games as Path of Exile where gameplay is almost everything.

cool post upvoted and followed :)

One of the most important things on a game is random events, it means different things and scenarios happening, this keep the game interesting and not boring after many days playing it

Damit I want to play Zelda

nice post @kingjan

RPG is my top favorite, especially the ones where you have an  open world and exploration and puzzles are a big part. However, I share your opinion about Zelda, it's just too slow. Bloodbourne, Nioh and the dark souls series definately are my favorite of all times. There is not really an open world but exploration gets you rewarded and, as you mentioned before, it's very satisfying when you actually make progress. The difficulty level teaches you a lot as well, don't be greedy and have some patience.

Realy good post ! 

I adore RPG / ARPG / MMORPG but i love FPS and strategic games too.

**My favorite suites are Zelda / Final Fantasy / MGS / Diablo / Civilization.**

I am quite narrative (but not too much), and for me gameplay is very important, as the atmosphere / scenario of the game, exploration just a little bit. 

**Breath of the wild was a HUGE game that i loved, but the final boss. disapointed me !**

yes ,it is very important.a game is successful when player get interested more more in the game. gameplay can increase this interest

Really liked this post! and i absolutely love the explorer-puzzle games but i do have to say that zelda did not impress me.. really looked forward to it but it do not have the same "gotta play more" feeling that the older zelda games had. so i just got bored really fast.

If you ask me, my favorite RPG is The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim!

Yes

The time i spend on Halflife 2 dm servers tell me that i am a fast gameplay focused player :-) . 34 + days connection time . lol . 
http://hl2dm-consortium.tsgk.com/index.php?mode=playerinfo&player=396313

These days i play more complicated games like Emperion galactic survival . Looting ,building and crafting games became so much fun the last years . 

Gameplay is the way a game feels , smooth animations , balanced hitboxes and more . For example , the valve source engine makes very good gameplay in games like HL2 , CS source an DOD source , as in TF2 it never felt nice or real to me . Game mechanics determine the gameplay , like the ARMA games could have bin so much more popular if it didn't have it's overdone game control mechanics , move the head free from your aim ? why ? Ones you get used to it the games are really not bad . The steep learning curve of Elite Dangerous is not a gameplay breaker to me , i like a challenge . So gameplay ? it's a personal thing .   

Game on , GG

Im definitely the explorer and looter :)

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Agree, though Uncharted is one of my favorite series. I have all 3 for PS3 and already done with A Theif's End on PS4. Though I consider solving puzzle and stealth as part of gameplay. I am a big fan of God of War and Uncharted series. Awaiting "The lost legacy" and "God of War" for PS4.