RE: Sad, but not yet defeated. by josephsavage

View this thread on: hive.blog | peakd.com | ecency.com

Viewing a response to: @dreemsteem/sad-but-not-yet-defeated

hardfork · @josephsavage · Jun 28 '19

$0.27

I wonder how feasible it would be for witnesses to set reward split levels in their configurations. Then the actual division at payout could be a moving 7 day average of configs assigned to each block. That would allow for each witness to target specific levels, justify their targets, and adapt as the community adapts.

There are tons of other components that work this way (like the 3.5 day average feed price used to calculate the portion of payout going to SBD) so the technical hurdles can't be too difficult.

👍 sbi3, ura-soul, eturnerx, bengy, osso

`author`	josephsavage
`permlink`	re-dreemsteem-sad-but-not-yet-defeated-20190628t151711982z
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steempeak/1.13.5"}
`created`	2019-06-28 15:17:12
`last_update`	2019-06-28 15:17:12
`depth`	1
`children`	10
`last_payout`	2019-07-05 15:17:12
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.208 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.065 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	515
`author_reputation`	40,260,007,396,591
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,470,261
`net_rshares`	559,190,770,187
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (5)

voter	rshares	pct
ura-soul	98,292,117,664	35%
eturnerx	49,801,552,289	15%
bengy	1,530,727,905	7%
sbi3	409,291,578,644	20.38%
osso	274,793,685	85.47%

@bengy · Jun 28 '19

$0.03

This sounds like a good middle ground compromise!

👍 dustsweeper, josephsavage

`author`	bengy
`permlink`	re-josephsavage-re-dreemsteem-sad-but-not-yet-defeated-20190628t152130415z
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steempeak/1.13.5"}
`created`	2019-06-28 15:21:33
`last_update`	2019-06-28 15:21:33
`depth`	2
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2019-07-05 15:21:33
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.020 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.006 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	50
`author_reputation`	1,236,660,808,483,139
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,470,399
`net_rshares`	55,640,663,401
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (2)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
josephsavage	0 B		5,960,552,651	100%
dustsweeper	0 B		49,680,110,750	6.37%

@dreemsteem · Jun 28 '19

there are many!  let's take the time to flesh this out and SEE who it hurts before just jumping into a decision that initially hurts so many small accounts (the current 50/50)

this is a discussion that DESERVES to be handled alone and handled right.  NOT quick and risky!

👍 josephsavage

`author`	dreemsteem
`permlink`	pttery
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2019-06-28 15:24:03
`last_update`	2019-06-28 15:24:03
`depth`	3
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2019-07-05 15:24:03
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	272
`author_reputation`	379,399,022,506,342
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,470,515
`net_rshares`	5,840,404,290
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (1)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
josephsavage	0 B		5,840,404,290	100%

@dreemsteem · Jun 28 '19

I think there are many ways to tackle this - but the point is... we can't adjust it if it just gets voted on lumped into a yes/no deal.   This is TOO big of a discussion and there are SO many options that take us in a new direction WITHOUT burning the house down in one swift move.  I love that your comment immediately brought in another suggestion.  It's proof that if we put our minds together - there IS a compromise.

they need to take it off the hardfork so it can be a much more open and varied discusssion.

👍 josephsavage

`author`	dreemsteem
`permlink`	pttenl
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2019-06-28 15:21:24
`last_update`	2019-06-28 15:21:24
`depth`	2
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2019-07-05 15:21:24
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	514
`author_reputation`	379,399,022,506,342
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,470,395
`net_rshares`	6,083,089,048
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (1)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
josephsavage	0 B		6,083,089,048	100%

@shadowspub · Jun 28 '19

why not a slider or setting for content creators to set what they are offering curators?

the platform will find its balancewith the give and take between the two groups in order for each to grow. When a content creator sets their rate too high in relation to the quality of their work, the curators wont be upvoting and the creator will need to rethink their rate.

properties (22)

`author`	shadowspub
`permlink`	pttwq4
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2019-06-28 21:51:42
`last_update`	2019-06-28 21:51:42
`depth`	2
`children`	6
`last_payout`	2019-07-05 21:51:42
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	365
`author_reputation`	624,936,964,368,595
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,485,929
`net_rshares`	0

@josephsavage · Jun 28 '19 (edited)

$0.20

That's an order of magnitude more complex from a technical perspective.

It would also require supporting development from every front-end and voting service running on Steem.

👍 sbi6, osso

`author`	josephsavage
`permlink`	re-shadowspub-pttwq4-20190628t215629345z
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steempeak/1.13.5"}
`created`	2019-06-28 21:56:30
`last_update`	2019-06-28 21:57:48
`depth`	3
`children`	5
`last_payout`	2019-07-05 21:56:30
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.150 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.048 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	175
`author_reputation`	40,260,007,396,591
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,486,142
`net_rshares`	408,934,267,208
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (2)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
sbi6	0 B		408,649,352,938	56.2%
osso	0 B		284,914,270	83.72%

@shadowspub · Jun 28 '19

it is.. not impossible though. It happens elsewhere .. Choon comes to mind.

👍 josephsavage

`author`	shadowspub
`permlink`	pttx16
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2019-06-28 21:58:18
`last_update`	2019-06-28 21:58:18
`depth`	4
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2019-07-05 21:58:18
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	75
`author_reputation`	624,936,964,368,595
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,486,215
`net_rshares`	0
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (1)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
josephsavage	0 B		0	100%

@tcpolymath · Jun 29 '19

$0.03

You can already do this without too much trouble as long as the number is more than 25%. If you removed mandatory curation from the blockchain side I could spin up the back end of user-selected curation in a day or two. Somebody else would have to do the interface.

👍 dreemsteem, cheneats, josephsavage

`author`	tcpolymath
`permlink`	re-josephsavage-re-shadowspub-pttwq4-20190629t031159375z
`category`	hardfork
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["hardfork"],"app":"steempeak/1.13.5"}
`created`	2019-06-29 03:12:00
`last_update`	2019-06-29 03:12:00
`depth`	4
`children`	3
`last_payout`	2019-07-06 03:12:00
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.024 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.007 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	265
`author_reputation`	72,516,729,960,969
`root_title`	"Sad, but not yet defeated."
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	87,498,304
`net_rshares`	68,044,799,230
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (3)

voter	rshares	pct
dreemsteem	66,984,388,442	100%
cheneats	594,041,522	7%
josephsavage	466,369,266	100%

3 replies