RE: How hardfork 20 changes commenting rewards by tcpolymath

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hardfork20 · @tcpolymath · Sep 29 '18

$0.32

>Under Hard Fork 20, a $1 vote at 1 minute turns into a $0.06 vote to the author

I don't think this is correct. $0.75 still goes to the author regardless of when you cast it, it's just a question of where the curation rewards go. 

It is nice to see someone else complaining about this, though, as I've been kind of getting tired of it. :)

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@danielsaori · Sep 29 '18

$0.14

Yes, that's how I understand it as well. It is the curation reward that will turn into dust. The author will now always get 75% of the reward. So early voting will no longer bump the reward to the author. For the curator there is no change compared to HF19, except for the threshold decrease to 15min.

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@themarkymark · Sep 29 '18 (edited)

That's how I understood it should be, but I was not seeing that right after the hard fork landed on the 25th.  I ended up removing the vote and re-executing it like an hour after the post and it registered as a full vote.  I'm starting to suspect something was fixed between v0.20.2 and where we are now.

In fact, now that I think of it, I think the vote was right before HF20 was launched.  It was after HF20 when I noticed the vote didn't count but was on the post.

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@isnochys · Sep 29 '18

It seems we all complain a lot about hf20 these days.
The only thing, next to showing up all errors and miscalculations in HF20, is to remove our witness votes from the top20 witnesses, who all agreed to it and found nothing wrong with it. 
Not one opposed it. 
All went immediately to the next version. 
It looks as if T20 witnesses are super fast at code review and testing. 

But on the other hand.. 
You already vote for good witnesses and rarely any t20
No need for me to preach here.. Sorry:)

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@tcpolymath · Sep 29 '18

$0.04

I don't mind. I figured out a while ago that my vote is meaningful to witnesses outside the top 20 - it increases their chances of getting a block - and almost meaningless to those in the top group.

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@themarkymark · Sep 29 '18 (edited)

$1.09

> I don't think this is correct. $0.75 still goes to the author regardless of when you cast it, it's just a question of where the curation rewards go.

That is not how I have been seeing it.  I just posted this comment and immediately upvoted it 100%.  (~$1 vote).  I had a post the other day after the fork that had an auto vote, and it showed the full vote value, then not long later the vote changed from ~$10 to $0.04.  (Will see how this comment pays out).  I can't explain why it shows $10 initially, then an hour later it was $0.04 but that would fit the scenario I explained.

* https://i.imgur.com/FXiiEBX.png

Test

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@crokkon · Sep 18 '22 (edited)

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@themarkymark · Sep 29 '18

$0.03

It was this post, a vote was made immediately and it showed up in the condenser as it normally would.

https://steemit.com/curation/@buildawhale/buildawhale-curation-digest-09-25-18

When I looked from my main account, probably around 1 hour later, it showed it only had $0.04 and that vote was on the post.  I removed the vote and tried again, and it showed properly.  But now I am unable to mimic the behavior and think it might have been related to v0.20.2 as it was on the 25th when hard fork just happened to land.

I have a post above I am using a test to see how it pays out.  But I may have been wrong, this may have been an issue with an older build and has been corrected.

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@funbobby51 · Sep 29 '18

interesting, lets see what happens if you upvote this comment 100% ;)

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@tcpolymath · Sep 29 '18

If so this is a bug. It's not intended behavior.

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@themarkymark · Sep 29 '18

Very possible, might have been something with 0.20.2 (which is what we were on at the time), but I did see it first hand do exactly as I describe, but very strangely it initially showed the full vote value.

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@themarkymark · Sep 29 '18

I'm starting to think it might have been.  I had to remove a $10 vote and re-execute it because it was pretty much zero'd as it was done with the post.

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@yuninho · Sep 29 '18

Interesting experiment. Let's see the result. I'll keep an eye on it too. Thanks

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