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Correct. It’s important to note the “strength” of your vote will adjust dynamically after you’ve voted, so even if it’s worth .02 when you cast it, if the post goes on to earn 20+ Steem, thereby moving up the reward curve, your contribution amount will grow. I preferred linearity, and yes, this system does make it much more difficult to give out small “micro rewards” in comments and one on one interactions. It’s meant to enforce “consensus” of many people liking content. I think it has a chance to work at scale... if we get to a point of millions of active users, but in the short term, especially when combined with 50/50 curation, it may slow the broader distribution of Steem and growth of a “middle class.”
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me-we | 0 | -25,944,983,273 | -100% | ||
jaki01 | 0 | 81,085,972,074 | 3% | ||
drutter | 0 | 1,143,339,252 | 1% | ||
girlsofgreen | 0 | 12,367,551,086 | 100% |
> if we get to a point of millions of active users honestly? I think you are a pretty good guy, but come on... this statement is so far from what has ***really*** happened it defies any logic at all. It will get worse before it gets better as people leave in droves.
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One way to address the issue of microrewards and one-to-one interaction is with tipping and tip bots. They're pretty common in some other crypto communities but not so much on Steem.
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coininstant | 0 | -73,835,501,051 | -100% | ||
bryan-imhoff | 0 | 103,429,802,042 | 25% | ||
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I think tips could be implemented well, perhaps even a cooperation with something like *Basic Attention Token*; but I’ve always been a fan of the simplicity and elegance of the vote! I feel like people are much more generous when they don’t feel like they’re reaching into their own pocket. If we already struggle to get an economy thriving without excessive self voting, collusive rings, & bots for profit, a healthy tipping economy is a long way away.
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It is largely the aspects of voting that make it an easy way to accomplish one-to-one interaction which also make it easily abused for all the bad things you mentioned. So there is no free lunch. Yeah it'll be a while before tipping is well-developed here, so I suggest we start ASAP.
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Stem will never get a million users. Ever.
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