create account

RE: HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change by jacekw

View this thread on: hive.blogpeakd.comecency.com

Viewing a response to: @whatsup/pu126k

· @jacekw ·
$0.03
I still don't understand this "go back 15 minutes later" thing.
For most people in most cases, the curation reward is the largest if the vote is placed between 5-10 minutes. And it will take 5 minutes in most cases to find a post and read it. So even if someone knows how the curation window works, waiting is unnecessary. So you can simply not pay attention to it.

<center>
![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmQyPeTeGFQg2hE8kKHYWx3toRwX9yTSX1CCjJZakYw7RZ/image.png)
</center>

https://beempy.com/curation/@whatsup/mathematical-incentives-only-work-if-the-stakeholders-use-them
👍  
properties (23)
authorjacekw
permlinkpu1a4t
categoryhf21
json_metadata{"tags":["hf21"],"image":["https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmQyPeTeGFQg2hE8kKHYWx3toRwX9yTSX1CCjJZakYw7RZ/image.png"],"links":["https://beempy.com/curation/@whatsup/mathematical-incentives-only-work-if-the-stakeholders-use-them"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2019-07-02 21:24:36
last_update2019-07-02 21:24:36
depth2
children6
last_payout2019-07-09 21:24:36
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.020 HBD
curator_payout_value0.006 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length579
author_reputation101,268,395,445,622
root_title"HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id87,693,414
net_rshares53,054,166,170
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@geekpowered ·
$0.02
I'm pretty sure most people don't run statistical analysis on whether or not it's worth to just vote early. There are a ton of people who get crap for rewards, so it's not like they'll get a ton of rewards suddenly after a few minutes.

These kinda things can be done easily by bots though.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorgeekpowered
permlinkre-jacekw-pu1a4t-20190702t231729682z
categoryhf21
json_metadata{}
created2019-07-02 23:19:30
last_update2019-07-02 23:19:30
depth3
children1
last_payout2019-07-09 23:19:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.017 HBD
curator_payout_value0.005 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length290
author_reputation99,319,261,112,097
root_title"HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id87,698,228
net_rshares46,748,587,835
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@rycharde ·
No, but it's a valid counter-argument to aggroed's point that we are saving newbies from losing curation rewards when, actually, voting within the 15 mins can result in much higher rewards.
properties (22)
authorrycharde
permlinkpu2ci6
categoryhf21
json_metadata{"tags":["hf21"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2019-07-03 11:13:21
last_update2019-07-03 11:13:21
depth4
children0
last_payout2019-07-10 11:13:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length189
author_reputation19,101,504,594,449
root_title"HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id87,724,777
net_rshares0
@whatsup ·
Well I don't math, so... and I shouldn't have to Math to read a damn post and upvoteit.
properties (22)
authorwhatsup
permlinkre-jacekw-pu1a4t-20190702t220148545z
categoryhf21
json_metadata{"community":"busy","app":"busy/2.5.6","format":"markdown","tags":["hf21"],"users":[],"links":[],"image":[]}
created2019-07-02 22:01:51
last_update2019-07-02 22:01:51
depth3
children3
last_payout2019-07-09 22:01:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length87
author_reputation519,839,651,581,670
root_title"HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id87,695,123
net_rshares0
@jacekw ·
I know that this is ridiculous that this voting system is complicated for the user. But ... we are changing from
"the system where you really don't need to make any waiting for vote BS"
to
"the system where you really don't need to make any waiting for vote BS, but voting bots get more curation rewards than users"
properties (22)
authorjacekw
permlinkpu1cec
categoryhf21
json_metadata{"tags":["hf21"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2019-07-02 22:13:33
last_update2019-07-02 22:13:33
depth4
children2
last_payout2019-07-09 22:13:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length315
author_reputation101,268,395,445,622
root_title"HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id87,695,610
net_rshares0
@rycharde · (edited)
It's always been true - it's how the central bank of steem works.

All this 1 minute window is doing is mitigating the mixture of increasing curation rewards plus a decrease in payouts for most posts. If the 15 mins was kept, then it would add some curation-reward losses for some upvoters.

It is giving with one hand and taking away with the other - while algorithmic-curation-rewards-mining will be done by the fastest bots.
properties (22)
authorrycharde
permlinkpu2ctw
categoryhf21
json_metadata{"tags":["hf21"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2019-07-03 11:20:24
last_update2019-07-03 11:29:21
depth5
children0
last_payout2019-07-10 11:20:24
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length427
author_reputation19,101,504,594,449
root_title"HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id87,725,089
net_rshares0
@whatsup ·
Well that's how it is going to work no matter what.
properties (22)
authorwhatsup
permlinkre-jacekw-pu1cec-20190702t222849131z
categoryhf21
json_metadata{"community":"busy","app":"busy/2.5.6","format":"markdown","tags":["hf21"],"users":[],"links":[],"image":[]}
created2019-07-02 22:28:51
last_update2019-07-02 22:28:51
depth5
children0
last_payout2019-07-09 22:28:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length51
author_reputation519,839,651,581,670
root_title"HF21 Addition: Vote Window Change"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id87,696,160
net_rshares0