>SL could just take everything they have here and copy it over to another chain without the issues that made Hive implode.

Yep. Or if all other witnesses drop out, they just fire up some more nodes. 

There is so much value and security in building on top of an established community, yet like you said - chasing the quick gains means most will fail. They might make a bundle, but it is pretty much a more complex pump and dump project.

> Back in my day in OCD and curie, there were only 3 to 10 people who determined what gets a vote.

I think we're closing in on 100 these days. 

It is not like the top 20 witnesses and the community have hit the snooze button since the split away from Steem. Hive you see today is a lot different under the hood than Steem and a lot of improvements have been made to make it work more efficiently and quicker too. 

Dan was the architect of Steem, but he has not touched Hive or responsible of anything that is built on Hive since the split. It is unfair to give him credit for things he had no business in. 

When it comes to curation guilds. There are far more than just 2 big ones. Many of which operate on different frontends and in different tokens tied to HIVE too. 

5-10 people? I think it is a lot more combined across all the guilds and groups. @curangel alone has 23+ curators who are actively curating a bunch of posts each every day.

>While the poor literally get poorer, because they have to pay electricity bills and have zero to non incentive to spin a witness node.

Go through the list after the top 20 and ask them personally why they do it.

>Back in my day in OCD and curie, there were only 3 to 10 people who determined what gets a vote. I am pretty sure this is the same for other curation guilds. You don't agree on this?

Most stake isn't in curation guilds. Most stake is manual. 

>It is a mix, but true viral content can't be paid for. 

Yes it can. It is done so daily through advertising models that Google, Facebook and the media use to spread for click revenue. 

> Neglecting the economic incentives part is the same as neglecting throwing away a blockchain. 

They aren't neglected, but they also aren't the only focus of every user. Many people are also earning *massive amounts* by using Hive, even if it isn't in Hive. Again, your view is far too narrow on what this blockchain is. 

>Can you truly say you see more than me, if you haven't ventured into other blockchains other than Hive? Unlike me who ventured into other blockchains and made buck there, and I probably didnt make millions by luck.

Again, you are making assumptions and it is a pretty easy assumption to make, because  *htis is where you can see me.* You really have no idea abou the other things I do in any other capacity, do you? You look at my wallet and say "success or failure" - but, that is not how I can be evaluated. Similarly, you are making judgements on Hive as if it is a singular thing, it is not, and you are evaluating all Hive users as if they focus on the same thing that you do, which is the financial profits *now.* Some people look a lot longer.

And, yes you did make millions by luck. Luck is the only constant. Unless you built a blockchain and created your own luck - you were lucky that whatever you bought into got supported. Most of the projects in crypto are hype-based with no purpose - it doesn't stop them making billions, but that is luck.

>I don't see any long position in Hive, and it just saddens me to see people like you putting so much effort into this chain, while you would be better economically off (and probably community wise) on other chains.

Community wise? What? Like on Twitter?  Discord pump and dump groups, Telegram? 

Where the fuck can I write the way I do in crypto, talk about the things I love, get engagement, help others learn, earn and improve their lives and still have the chance to be rewarded for it? Name the places please.