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RE: Case for Decentralization and why Hive matters? | Showcase Sunday by mykos

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· @mykos ·
@chekohler is correct. You guys get on here make like $5 for a post and gain all the hope in the world, lol.. he's explaining to you the barrier of entry is so great this product won't ever attract people on the level like mainstream social media..

You're overhyping data control, privacy and decentralization. First of all most of us live in a world where every year our government loses our personal information and we have learned not to give a shit, lol

Privacy...tons of people just willing to tell me their entire life stories without being forced because they want to.. they think it's a good idea to tell you perfect strangers what they been doing for their entire lifetime.. who they where they are.. in fact if you a criminal it's become the easiest place for the cops to find you lol.. So does that sound like people to you that care about privacy?

Let's talk about decentralization.. We're such idiots we still believe that those 30 witnesses pretty much in control of hive is running a decentralized network or the 21 block producers over on eos or whatever when most whether you wanna call them super economists or crypto experts don't think that sounds like decentralization, lol.

So i got one last statement to you little miss hope, lol.. I want you to look at my account.. and try to sell me on exactly why i would need this type of product? I can write but i rather do videos.. So i don't give a shit about being a blogger or writer.. Now if you said to me hey i'm a writer and would you like to join my writers guild.. but it's a probably a good idea to be a writer... I'd say thanks but no thanks i don't wanna be a shitty writer.

So sell me on why i need to use hive? Then at that point i can maybe see why you think this place has a future. i think it has no future whatsover unless it's using a product like bitcoin myk.. and the only reason bitcoin myk would possibly work is because it would fork bitcoin.. Not dilute it like you all are doing in a small economy. work with it.. whether bitcoin holders then have to go buy more shitcoins, lol.. so sell me and maybe i will start to see things your way.

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@geekgirl ·
I am really bad at convincing anybody about anything. So I wouldn't even try convince you or anybody else. But doesn't mean we can't have a conversation. 

The main point of the post is decentralization and why it is important. If people are fine with traditional ways of doing things, that's fine. It is their choice. Decentralized solutions like Bitcoin and Hive offer an alternative way, that some may find more interesting and beneficial.

Yes, Hive top witnesses make up the consensus on which code to run, what changes to implement, etc. It is 20+1, not 30. But since it is DPoS protocol, any of these top witnesses can be replaced by backup witness at anytime if the stakeholders decide so. In other words 21 witnesses do no make up the decentralization of Hive, it is the ability of stakeholders to appoint or replace any witnesses as they choose. Most of the time stakeholders would prefer to protect their interests and interests of the blockchain and vote in relying and skillful candidates. If any of the witnesses for some reason go rouge and do something that may harm the chain, it is up to the stakeholders to act promptly and replace the witness with their votes.

In a decentralized system like Hive, I have the full ownership of my account and wallet. Nobody else but I have full control over the account. Which is not the case anywhere else.

Blogging is only one of the features Hive offers. I understand not many enjoy blogging. They don't need to. They can use Hive just like any other social media apps they use. Better yet be part of building new ones.

Games like Splinterlands have demonstrated how successful building game and a gaming community can be on Hive. More and more games and apps will continue joining Hive network. For participants, the ability to use the same account/wallet to use various other games, apps, projects and build their digital equities can be beneficial too.

Maybe we should stop thinking about Hive as a product, but rather a network that puts people in charge. Decentralization is not easy. Perhaps it is easier to just use ready products that companies offer. But it is good to have options.
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@mykos ·
Well the problem is that i'm one of the most reasonable people in the world to convince of anything.. I for the fun of it take both sides of an argument and practice arguing both sides. The problem is hive has placed a bad impression on one of the most reasonable people in the world. That's not a good sign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWHm-ifMSkE&t=7s

Apparently it's not just me that's not as impressed with hive as you. It's countless other people.. maybe even some on your very thread not that impressed with hive. Now i got no problem where people wanna put their money.. provided they are full aware of how things work on this system. Once they know that i'm okay with everything.

I can find people all day.. people with millions of subscribers who have a negative view of hive.. I want to instead move on to your views about decentralization as i think they are the most important


In a decentralized system like Hive, I have the full ownership of my account and wallet. Nobody else but I have full control over the account.

Yes but you also say if their are bad actors the stakeholders can remove them. is that how decentralization works because someone has an opinion you're a bad actor they can be removed. I think the point i'm making is decentralization is such a broad concept that i think it's the wrong word to even use. I think we are forever on a road from centralization to decentralization and decentralization from what i've seen so far hasn't been accomplished yet. Some products are closer than others but not this product.

Figures like Satoshi well in the beginning he had mostly all the coins and the advantage over everyone else which  in turn gave him a ton of coins and, lol....despite his benevolence or not satoshi then began to move from centralization to decentralization. So the next part is decentralization is on a large spectrum of decentralization of geography, developers, miners, exchanges and wealth.. Data wise all crypto projects are so horrible and score so poorly in these areas.. i'll just give you one stat and you tell me if it sounds good to you.

Over 87% of the bitcoin network is owned by only about 1%. That's far worse than the american economy. Even on this micro scale.. So i feel like we're first semantically challenged but it's just so much worse we don't know enough to state the problem to begin to solve it.

Now again i try to show people the other side of the conversation because around here in the earning inner circle we're not goign to get that other side, lol. So i feel it's my job to enlighten people.

The other thing is just stat wise hive encountered one of the biggest events to bring awareness to it in crypto history.. It is utterly ridiculous to believe that people don't use hive because they fail to understand the technology or are somehow unaware that it's so great. 

I have another possibility for you maybe one that you haven't considered. Maybe people not joining or staying on hive because they feel it's alot of undesirable crap composed of this chain. I wonder have you considered that as a possibility just curious...

Because every major crypto person celebrity or otherwise had something to say about the justin sun takeover which created hive.. the best free marketing one can get.. The greatest minds in crypto and i feel like you belittle the intelligence of the crypto community to put out there that hive is so great and that people are missing out on it

Why not go to the problem so hive can really be helped and stop with ridiculous notions like that which everyone knows  can't possibly be true.. how could it be? Why not go to the problem if you really want the chain to do the things you believe it can. Otherwise i have to believe you can't be serious or you'd know these things .. You'd understand things .. simple things like that if you were serious.

I'll just say this in closing. Okay i' believe i've created the best crypto in history with the best algorithim that can be a solution for the homeless.. for the looming threat and job displacement of automation... that throught metcalfe's law can create a stable secure currency because most of the world even if they don't like the idea of free things.. they will try free things because it's no risk to them.. does'nt matter they still become part of our wallet network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL_Y9g7Tg0&t=109s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6HPdNBicM8

Let's just say i'm full of shit and i'd rather scam people like @themarkymark does.. that's fine.. i'll take that be cautious don't accept free crypto from me..avoid danger at all cost.. As maybe that's the fashion of a kinda inner circle hive system of earning a few bucks on these posts.. You got smart guys even on your own thread like chekhlor who seems like a smart guy.. does fairly well on hive no reason to not like it. but he's such a what i'd call a real man he still calls it how he sees it.. that hive is really an insignificant shit coin and he's kinda right at this point

That's why i respect people like him and not people like marky mark who just care about their bags and nothing else.. I just want you all to understand it's alot of people in crypto who are gearing up to change alot of the nonsense that's been going on in this space. So don't be surprised when it happens and my idea of bad actors get washed away.

So i don't know you or if you serious but if you are serious i'd think then you just not well informed. I'd say about the blog writing that besides splinterlands none of these apps are being used and like hive.blog or something.. leofinance trying but i mean come on that's not on anyones radar really especially if the main chain not even on the map so to speak.. so when i speak about the blogging that's really all i see because if you look at the other projects volume wise in comparison to hive tiself.. it's weak.. and hive in comparison of most projects people would seriously invest in is weak

Yes we like options but in the crypto space they want options that have the tokenomics to reward them. I just think hive is bogged down by inflation and has a hard time allowing that. So what else can you offer the people?

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