RE: Why Hive Is Failing. by nathanmars

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hive-167922 · @nathanmars · Oct 28 '21

$0.21

>  but the direction I think hive could go is to join ethereum as a layer 2 and figure out how to become a good decentralized blog. Because as an application layer, hive is falling far behind. By doing this, Hive benefits from the decentralization and security of Ethereum while retaining its transaction speed.

Vitalik loves our Hive community and we should seek to advise from ETH community and figure out a solution. 

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@futurethinker · Oct 28 '21

$1.91

I agree! 

Hive needs fresh eyes from people OUTSIDE the community. But a majority of people don't have the humility to see where Hive is failing and only cares about getting acknowledgement of what it already has done. I know there are a lot of smart people on Hive with the open mindedness to push change forward. But everything someone from the outside says something bad about Hive, the majority of the Hiver (NOT ALL) act defensive. This is not the way to change and innovate. And yes, I understand that people's words from the outside, including my post can come off as offensive, but guess what the core of what they are saying might be justified. 

I truly hope Hive could get somebody from the ETH community or Cardano community to comment, frankly getting these leaders might be hard, but there are enough less well known people in those communities who are happy to give their take on this chain.

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@nathanmars · Oct 29 '21

$0.42

Thanks for writing this post and some of the points you said are valid and true. 

I have been with this community for almost 4 years and took a year break and then again 3 months break again recently. And I can certainly relate to some of the points you raised in your post. 

I truly believe that there is immense value in fresh new ideas to take hive to the next level. At the same time, I can understand why people can be defensive. Because our community was so unlucky in many ways (Dan Larimer exit and Ned selling his stake to Justin that lead to the hard fork) and many of them put their heart and soul to build the ecosystem with little reward. 


We got to see obstacles as the way to move forward with our personal life and also with Hive. 


> I truly hope Hive could get somebody from the ETH community or Cardano community to comment, frankly getting these leaders might be hard, but there are enough less well-known people in those communities who are happy to give their take on this chain.

This is something in our control and we can try our very best to make something happen that empowers decentralization and crypto adoptoion. 





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@futurethinker · Oct 30 '21

$0.46

Thank you for your kind reception @nathanmars. :)

I agree with @wel.metcalfe
>Thank you for being a beacon of light within this community… your conversation style is exemplary.

Even though I know there are many OGs out here with this attitude, I was worried if they were still around, seeing the first reactions I received on this post.

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@wil.metcalfe · Oct 29 '21

Well put Nathan. There is 2 sides to this story we call Hive.

And it is understandable why people might initially feel defensive…

But in order to innovate ourselves forward and write the next chapters for Hive we are all going to have to be honest with where we are and what needs to happen next to get us to the next level.

Thank you for being a beacon of light within this community… your conversation style is exemplary. 

We need to encourage feedback and keep it classy. 🙏

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@wil.metcalfe · Oct 29 '21

I 💯% agree. 

Thank you for taking the time to do this. This really is the sort of input Hive needs and the fact that your a voice outside the current echo chamber means what you have to say is valuable feedback. 

Defensiveness doesn’t move us forward and only indicates fragility so I hope that people can have some constructive takeaways with what’s been said here in the post and also in the comments.

Thank you again. 🙏

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@futurethinker · Nov 1 '21

$0.68

Thank you Wil!

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@wil.metcalfe · Oct 29 '21

That would be very interesting Nathan. 

I wonder what he would advise us… could be eye opening but it’s difficult for me to imagine a Hive Ethereum integration…

That said I think there could be A LOT of value in getting outside eyes to say what they think about the project.

Internally there is to much group think going on to get a solid read on what needs to change and how we need to go about it…

But the truth of the matter is…

Something needs to change and it needs to change before another Bitcoin bull run.

I have some pretty good ideas of what needs to fundamentally change…

*hint hint*

The current DV and those witness’s turning a blind eye to the disfunction, turmoil, and abuse it is causing.

Anyways!

It’s good to see you back!

I have been meaning to get in touch with you!

Thank you for your recent messages. They are much appreciated.

I’ll talk with you soon. 🙌

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@nathanmars · Oct 29 '21

$0.45

> Something needs to change and it needs to change before another Bitcoin bull run. 

Happy to see that you’re thinking long term. 

Making some fundamental changes to Hive takes time and the most important thing is that we need to start moving in the right direction and be willing to innovate and collaborate. 

Crypto and decentralisation is a positive sum game and let’s think in a solution oriented way :)

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@futurethinker · Oct 30 '21

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:)

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