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RE: Web2 streamer problems by st8z

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· @st8z ·
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In the end, of course, it depends on the streamer and his intentions. We have a group of smaller streamers in which probably only a few have serious ambitions to make a living from streaming.

What you say regarding the decision makers behind bans etc. is true. However, on Hive it is up to the witnesses and there you are again directly dependent on the decision of a single entity (worst-case). Saying that there is no censorship on Hive is not true in the end either and is relatively "easy" to do with regard to the current user base. In the end, however, you also have people behind the nodes here, and in case of doubt, it goes to them. These people will then, at least in my naive opinion, secure themselves accordingly and enforce censorship in case of doubt. An example of this would be the account: https://peakd.com/@thedarkoverlord
Feel free to correct me here if I'm wrong about the node operator's liability. 

Sure, you can argue about how to deal with something like that - but it is censorship. But back to the streamers:

> Although it can't really be compared to Hive content creators in the same way, cause I'd like to think it is way easier to earn rewards here for your contributions, get some autovotes over time if you consistently create good content and get bigger votes and of course now and then you might say the wrong thing or get some random accounts to start spam downvoting you and demonetized, if you have stake you can still earn in other ways than just from posting content if in worst case no one feels the downvotes are unfair to counter them for you.

I can not confirm from my perspective at the current state. With a view to a growing user base even less. I think the basic idea is valid, but the reality shows a different picture. In my opinion, it is not an option at the moment to start here on Hive, especially for people who want to build a long-term base for their digital presence. My impression is that you do get votes here, but the actual interaction is worth less and is also very limited. After all, you mainly meet people who meet you on the level of a "real" creator - in the actual social media that's not the case at all. There, the actual consumer predominates. And creators are ultimately interested in these consumers, in retaining them for the long term if possible, and in expanding their following. Especially for smaller streamers, this is the most important target at the beginning, where the revenues are completely irrelevant. In my opinion, this possibility is not available on Hive. My colleagues see this similarly. From our perspective, it makes no sense at all to switch to this platform, especially if you are already in the process of building a community.

I would even go so far as to say that being on Hive can currently be detrimental to your own presence. Sure, for people who want to make money directly in the crypto space, wonderful. For people who really come from the content creator track, not an option. Why? Too few users, hardly any real consumers, complicated onboarding process and:

One's presence on other platforms is censored. Before I deleted my Facebook account, I was active in 1-2 groups. In these groups I posted regularly and also participated in the discussion. Then I registered here and thought it would be interesting to know if any of these people know Hive and have an opinion about it. But I never got an answer to my question. Why? My question has never seen the light of any other screen except mine. Shadowban friends. So if I want to build my following and not degenerate into my highly personal echo chamber, I stay away from this decentralized alternative. Sounds harsh, but that's the way it is. I do have hope that this will change and decentralized options will take over in the long run - but that will probably take some time. All in all, I wouldn't be able to say that as a streamer you'll find a suitable alternative to Twitch, YT and CO. on Hive and its DApps.
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@acidyo ·
Your base seems to be around switching to Hive exclusively, that wasn't my point even though I didn't mention it, I did make a point about Twitch not allowing you to stream on other places at the same time though, on Hive you can cross-post, etc, no one's stopping you although some people like it more if your content is original and Hive first, not everyone cares about that. I don't understand what you mean with personal echo chamber, you have other people here who value decentralization and may think alike, whether they get "censored" the way you described above or not, if DMCA's become a real problem you only need a random user somewhere where he doesn't give a fuck about USA to shoot up a node and a front-end that doesn't comply with DMCA to still view those texts. I wouldn't call it censorship if at the core [it's always there](https://hiveblocks.com/thedarkoverlord/@thedarkoverlord/press-release-01-new-year-s-eve-disclosure), hell hiveblocks is also just a website, but even without one you could use one of those oldschool wallets to read them. 
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