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RE: Help Hive - Sprinkle A Little SEO On Your Posts by ryivhnn

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@ryivhnn
I probably just suck at explaining.

CMSs and platforms like this will just use whatever the user put in the "title" field of the form as the ``<title>`` (which is in the head tag and that we can't edit) and as the visible title of the article (rendered as ``<h1>``).  

If the ``<title>`` tag was removed you wouldn't notice a difference in the article but might notice that the browser tab is empty (or maybe contains ``| [site name]`` as most of them append the site name to the article).  Browsers and search engines use it so you probably want it.

If the ``<h1>`` tag was removed, the title would be rendered as body text and be non-obvious to humans so you probably want that too XD Additionally, search engines (or at least Google because all seo is apparently all about Google) use h1 to identify what the page is probably about, the h1 is one of the main things that get matched in searches.

And yes as you noted you do absolutely need both to help with rankings :)

The heading tags (h1, h2 etc) are semantically supposed to function kind of like how they do in textbooks, where you have one main topic heading (h1) and several subtopic headings (h2) possibly with subsubtopic headings (h3+).  There was a time where Google was using the h1 to help with matching keywords and rankings and stuff and so would penalise for multiple h1s as some were trying to do that to game their rankings, which is why I suggested starting from h2 when writing your post as the post title will be set as h1.  And even if it doesn't matter for Google anymore (because they change their algorithms like underwear) it still looks nicer from a semantic point of view (like too many people would look at the code anyway XD).

That's the important bit and the rest was me ramblingly wondering how they deal with feed sites then but seems smart sites like peakd just give the feed pages lower headings (all the post titles on my "following feed" on peakd use h5).

Did that help or did I make it worse? :D

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@abh12345
> Did that help or did I make it worse? :D

馃槀

So i've just created this wonderful post: https://hive.blog/itsatag/@zapncrap/testing-again-title

and on checking the page source, I see no '< h1 >' tag, which I didn't include in the text but gather from what you are saying will come from the Title if not included directly?

Damn, things are tough in the morning - I should probably go back to bed for a few more hours!
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@ryivhnn
Great post, much inform XD

<center>![Screenshot_20200513_142200.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/ryivhnn/7nSsMIvD-Screenshot_20200513_142200.png)</center>

Yep :)

And in the source code:

<center>![Screenshot_20200513_143535.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/ryivhnn/qVbtJVuh-Screenshot_20200513_143535.png)</center>

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@abh12345
ahh!

I was looking for h1 with a > directly following.  Thanks for that.  Soo, where are we - another coffee and I re-read what you put above? :D

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So we can either have title and h1 the same by just entering the title, or go for a slight alteration and include a h1. 

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/abh12345/hti0Sa1R-image.png)

Go clickbait with the title and more keywordy with the h1?
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