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This is interesting and something I've not thought of. Giving a DV mana pool a divy of inflation, and it acts the same as UV in terms up earning rewards for using it. Few things pop into my head ill need to give it a deeper think.
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It totally opens fun stuff like people parking their DVs on their alts or even self-DVing (to avoid either offending the crowd by DVing decent posts or "wasting" time to find actual DV-material) but decent rulesets seem to exist to keep things reasonable. The real issue could be implementation. I am not really familiar with details of the way the code calculates the amounts but the fact that the post is supposed to take different amounts off the pool for author and curators might be a problem. Although I suppose you can always take out the same amount off the pool for both and then return the excess from the author side (generated by DVs) even without skewing the 50/50 split, the HBD haircut implementation thread taught me the code change could be more complex than expected.
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> It totally opens fun stuff like people parking their DVs on their alts or even self-DVing Haha have a reverse burn post. Everyone park their downvotes there and create the most negative rep account there is.
author | enforcer48 |
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Very interesting. Yes, should be possible: first calculate the amount every curator had become, and then add/subtract the same percentage to/from everybody which you need to add/subtract that author and curators receive altogether the same amount.
author | jaki01 |
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I am not really sure what your method calculates as the description is too comprimed for me. I am picking the most readable part and expect you to elaborate in case I read it wrong / drew wrong conclusions. > author and curators receive altogether the same amount. I do NOT want author and curators to receive the same amount. That is what happens right now and that is the exact reason the DVing is OP. A post that gets 95 worth of downvotes and 105 worth of upvotes pays out 10 total (5 author, 5 curators combined). The vision is to pay out 105 total - assign 105+95=200 from DAO, pay out (105-95)/2=5 to author, (105+95)/2=100 to curators and return the balance (95) back to DAO. That way, upvoting a post that has (is going to have) DVs on it pays out full curation reward. Not 5/105=5 % of the par reward like Hive 25.0 does (easily reachable via UVing something noone reads / bothers to DV) That is Step 1 (letting people know they can UV someone that is under a deplatforming attack). More tweaks are necessary in order to get a good value discovery, but the above is an improvement to the current system on its own.
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Just cut the **FREE** downvotes in half. No need to give more **FREE** upvotes to counter the **FREE** downvotes.
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