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>Would people be able to get upvotes or Hive rewards using this forum? >Yes that is precisely I hate to shit on your idea, and I apologize for doing so, but to me this sounds like an absolute nightmare. It won't be a place where actual discussion happens it will be a place where people post 1000 memes, pictures and phrases a day and vote themselves up with their 100s of alt-accounts or friends. As soon as something becomes monetized it becomes a tool for an individual to receive rewards not to engage with naturally and enjoy. The reason that reddit and discord work so well and are so successful has a lot to do with the fact that they are not monetized. People use them because they love them not because they are rewarded for doing so. It comes down to intrinsic and extrinsic rewards and the psychology of how human behavior changes according to those concepts. People won't use it for its intended purpose of communication and facilitating discussion, they will use it for the rewards. This is why so many of the other reward based social media platforms have failed in the past. >get rewards without being "Writers", plus if you find a really cool/interesting/funny/breaking news link and share it you would get rewarded instead of downvotes due to plagiarism :) This entirely goes against one of the foundations of Hive and an underlying philosophy of the platform - i.e. "Proof of Brain." It suggests that people should be rewarded for copy and pasting, not for creativity, or effort... but for nothing really. Why should people be rewarded for that? Overall I think that a tipping feature would be cool, but I don't see any benefit to Hive by adding a voting reward feature. In that case, to me, it just sounds like a perfect tool for abuse. It sounds like Steemit on steroids to me. My question is why does this site need a voting/reward feature? and if you don't think that people would use the site if they weren't rewarded for doing so, then I think that says everything - no? Again, sorry to be a dick and shit upon your idea but I am very skeptical about the rewards feature.
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> Again, sorry to be a dick and shit upon your idea but I am very skeptical about the rewards feature. I asked for feedback and I got it - this is great! If people post spam and self-vote, won't others downvote it? We see this in regular comments, no? In some ways it would be easier to code using custom JSON but that would mean that the only rewards would be tipping, and I don't see people doing that very much outside of LUV and PIZZA etc
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>I asked for feedback and I got it - this is great! Well I'm glad you're open to criticism because I feel like I came in pretty hot haha. >If people post spam and self-vote, won't others downvote it? We see this in regular comments, no? I never use my downvotes so I dont really know if they are enough to stop such behavior or not, but also, I don't think anyone would be able to discern what spam is though either. If it's a site meant to be used to post links and memes, than is it spam if I do just that and post 100+ links/memes a day? Self votes might be easy enough to identify but alt accounts and organized voting circles may not be. At this point I'm still not clear on the need to even reward such behavior as posting a link or meme, but is it possible to create a token that is used within your front-end platform, like what we see with a lot of other projects?
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> At this point I'm still not clear on the need to even reward such behavior as posting a link or meme, but is it possible to create a token that is used within your front-end platform, like what we see with a lot of other projects? Separating out the content from the rewards process for the moment, one of the things I appreciate about things like Reddit, Hacker News, and Digg before them, is introducing me to interesting things that I hadn't seen yet AND the comments/analysis in the discussion. Recently I saw a headline in numerous periodicals that "science has proven there is no base reality" only to find in the comments on HN that the science was flawed plus the headlines were misleading, and why. Now on the rewards, seeing as this would need to be a new front-end, there is the possibility of moderation controls, filtering etc. Also, just like Reddit, low-quality material would hopefully be downvoted or ignored, with the best rising to the top or surfaced to a specific feed. Even Reddit has rewards now over and above kudos, you just can't spend it outside of Reddit.
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