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HOW TO SHUT UP! HIVE is Gaining a Bad Reputation - Official Disagreement in Hive by regenerette

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· @regenerette · (edited)
HOW TO SHUT UP! HIVE is Gaining a Bad Reputation - Official Disagreement in Hive
No, I do not agree!

Scroll down to see how I am blackmailed and manipulated to shut up and agree with a lie.

## I do not agree with such language!
**I do not agree with you trying to manipulate me and others in Hive!
I do not agree with my identity in Hive being offended by you calling me names!
I do not agree with a system of verbal censorship and to shut my mouth towards things!
I don't agree with Hive being promoted with values that are trespassed here by this group of @hivewatchers**
..........................................................................................................

Months ago, @hivewatchers blacklisted my account for 4 articles without a source for a photo that they called plagiarism! So no photo source is plagiarism in their mind.

![image.png](https://images.ecency.com/DQmTAgT1FQejd4bmJmJyhpVyCAZs6eCatQhM1GdFeWFjUbC/image.png)
~fuck your source


They stated that my @regeneretta account had also plagiarism.
I have asked them **where**, and they send a link directly **to my site**. I've asked them to verify that info, they didn't BUT up to this day, they call me a plagiarist.

A few days ago, they have blacklisted my @regeneretta account FOR WHAT? Check that website! SEND A SIMPLE MAIL, ASK ME TO POST A MESSAGE FOR THE COMMUNITY ON IT, ETC. IF you are really interested in the truth. Which I doubt.

They have blacklisted my @regenerette account again for rephrasing part of an article like you find out a piece of info and you put it in your own words, not entirely, of course. **No plagiarism found in it. **

They have been after me after I was spending a lot of time in POB, writing, curating, etc and most of their supporters are now very active in POB after **April 2021** when they managed to create enough waves for me there.


NOW:
**Here is #censorship, lack of any free speech and suppression of other utopian Hive values**, a few days ago:

![capture_20210628_130007.png](https://images.ecency.com/DQmYtFaMZdVmE9o7ugtZv4ReKqdQQXkarPfR5ZxNr9YMZFF/capture_20210628_130007.png)

![capture_20210628_130102.png](https://images.ecency.com/DQmQaFaPjKD4H7mksV6TLCR8R6WRSsBfD3THqPa3L24R4Qm/capture_20210628_130102.png)

The user is called @cranium and we could all see how easily he asked for justification for your downvotes and how easily you have forgotten him.

The names you are calling me need **evidence**. YOU HAVE FAILED FOR MONTHS TO PROVE I AM A SCAMMER AND A CONTENT THIEF ON MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS.  
**And now you want to keep me quiet.**

I didn't continue anything. It wasn't plagiarism before and it isn't now with a simple rephrasing in an article of international news.



LET'S SEE HOW FAR YOU TAKE IT AND HOW THIS SHOWS DECENTRALIZATION.

EXPECT THAT EVERYTHING YOU DO WILL AFFECT HIVE. INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.

FOR THOSE THAT NEED TO SEE MORE:

[https://ecency.com/proofofbrain/@regenerette/hive-owned-by-companies-and](https://ecency.com/proofofbrain/@regenerette/hive-owned-by-companies-and)

## Finally, @hivewatchers,
I disagree with all the toxic behavior that will make witnesses re-evaluate your presence in Hive. With or without your friends that are now in POB and infowars for so many years. It seems like they're the only one on your side from all this Hive community and they are the only ones quickly coming to lick some bones when I write about you or POB each time.


**Community: THIS IS NOT DECENTRALIZATION. IT'S A FAKE.**

STEALING? THEFTS? MANIPULATORS?

@hivewatchers, answer this to the community:

WHEN YOU DOWNVOTE MY POSTS OR OTHER PEOPLE'S POST WHY DON'T YOU SEND THE REWARDS YOU GET TO NULL, BURN THEM, SEND THEM BACK TO THE COMMUNITY? 

There are so many things waiting to be unwrapped about Hive. 
But you won't have the chance to downvote, farm comments, manipulate the info in any way. Keep your ground with your flock of sheep, for now, whip their a/sses, punish them for not doing what you want.
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@beerlover ·
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@darkflame ·
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@pizzabot ·
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@dickturpin ·
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1. I suspect English is not your first language which isn't helping you put your case across.

2. Ranting and raving aren't helping you either because this post, for example, is incredibly hard to understand.

3. Failure to give image accreditation via an *image source* link isn't plagiarism; it's **theft!** So, in reality, you could be accused of being a thief. The fact an image source link is not provided could give the impression the image is your own work which I suspect it was not?

4. It is not acceptable to."Rephrase" someone else's work anywhere on the planet, let alone on Hive. That is plagiarism. The correct method is to enclose sections of the original in <code>blockquote</code> and then give your own interpretation of that quote.

5. I suspect you're not six years old, and this is not the playground. Moaning about what another user did and how they are treated is what kids do in an attempt to get out of being in trouble <em>"We'll Dave stole a whole packet of biscuits! I only took one."</em> what others do has no bearing on your case.

6. Now, I agree with you in regards to the so-called <em>Freedom</em> promoted by Hive [users]. If Hive were truly free, then everyone would be able to do what they liked, and the likes of @cheeter would be out of job. Sadly, when folk extol the virtues of freedom, what they really mean is freedom based on a set of rules and in truth, if you have rules, then really there isn't any freedom. Having said that. Because Hive is a rewards-based platform, there has to be some form of policing involved to ensure low scumbags don't try every trick in the book to steal rewards but earn them fairly and squarely through their own work.

I have had numerous conversations with @hivewatchers over the years, and I have to say I think they're pretty fair-minded on the whole, so I suspect there is more to this than laid out in this rant post?
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@maylenasland · (edited)
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Didn't you get the idea that this post was about aggressivity? And what you're doing? You persist on that by playing the same coin and falling to the back-side of it? I really don't care about your ideas that insist to be clever with this kind of attitude you've got. Unfortunately, you did have numerous conversations with hive watchers to the point you're one of them. And you made that pretty clear.
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@mrtats ·
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You are free to do as you like though, as others are free to downvote/upvote anyone for any reason. Isn't that what freedom means?  

Posted Using [LeoFinance <sup>Beta</sup>](https://leofinance.io/@mrtats/re-dickturpin-47q9s4)
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@dickturpin ·
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Yep, as I said, that would be the true definition of freedom; however, Hive as a whole (Or should that be the majority?) has decided to add a few caveats to "Freedom", most of which we all accept and understand. So, for example, simply translating an article and then posting that translation on Hive is a massive No-no! That's stealing someone else's work! I suspect leaving it up to upvoting or downvoting is insufficient for some of the determined plagiarists and spammers on Hive. I suspect those types of individuals rely on the fact that many users won't bother checking to see if the work is authentic or not and will be conned into making undeserved upvotes.

The best way to not get on any blacklists is not to copy other people's work or try to be smart by simply changing a couple of words here and there, thus trying to pass it off as unique work. Also, giving accreditation to the original producers/owners of any media included in posts.
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@shawnsporter ·
Very well put
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@wil.metcalfe ·
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Thank you for doing a decent job of weighing in on this situation. The points you have made clearly make things plain as to what is alright and what isn't alright on the Hive Blockchain.

I'm always of the mind that someone should be innocent until proven guilty however and that puts real weight on the process's we use to identify plagiarism and theft of media content. 

It is my opinion that we need to put further effort, thought, and awareness into how we go about these aspects of maintaining our blockchains integrity. If we are not careful we will only create an environment where it is to unfriendly to invite our friends, family, and famous.

I am not here to judge if someone is right or wrong on either side... But I am concerned about *how* we are reaching our verdicts on these sorts of things.

I believe that the way we go about our determinations is just as important as our ultimate decisions are.

We should also give some thought as to how we can weigh out consequences. What I mean by this is... What exactly does it mean to be black listed? And could that not be levied out on a sliding scale of severity so as to make a point but not level the playing field we all stand upon?

Another consideration should be... How can we make use of our DPoS system to vote on the outcomes of cases of plagiarism... collectively as a *community.* 

Rather than one entity being the police, judge, and jury I think that it might be wiser to proceed by separation of these aspects of identification and protocol.

So yes.

The good thing about all the gaps that form (like these ones) while we innovate the future of the Hive blockchain is that we all have an opportunity to step into those gaps as owners... Hive is a living project which means that we can change and adjust the things that need to improve as we identify what those values actually are.

I think that how @hivewatchers is going about it's implementation of Hive integrity and safety is commendable buuuuuut also increasingly inadequate if we are honest and want to continue to say that we are a decentralized solution to an increasingly censored world.

If you would like to read more of my thoughts about this case I left a couple comments in one of @regenerette's recent posts:
https://peakd.com/proofofbrain/@regenerette/hive-owned-by-companies-and#@regenerette/re-wilmetcalfe-2021628t213211678z

As well... Here's a link to a post I recently made in regards to having a second look at my Witness Votes and continuing to evolve Hive towards friendlier ways to human:
https://peakd.com/hive/@wil.metcalfe/taking-a-2nd-look-witness-requirements

I have liked your comment and followed you @dickturpin, as I think you have a good head on your shoulders. 

Thank you for saying something constructive here in the comments.  
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@dickturpin ·
$0.38
So I don't know the full story behind this, and I've no intention of finding out. I'm always a bit dubious about self-appointed guardianship, though so posts in this vein which sadly I see a few of always arouse my interest.

There are, in my view, some problems with the current system. From what I gather, your route of appeal is via Discord which is not my favourite medium of communication. As you point out, an aggrieved is appealing against an organisation that is Police, Judge and Jury all rolled into one which cannot possibly be good.

Having said that, I find myself wanting to have a foot in both camps. If the community is going to run around slating the likes of Twitter et al. for censoring, banning and a whole host of other activities as a reason to *"Join Decentralised Hive.........."* then Hive really shouldn't be doing some of the same things.

I'm afraid I don't do fluffy nice but I do try to be fair and listen to both sides of any dispute and then make my own mind up and not what others think the conclusion should be.

I've done short paragraphs because I wanted to make succinct points. Sorry. 😊

P.S. I look at your comments tomorrow. It's getting on here in the UK and I've some other stuff I need to wade through. 
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@espandorr ·
I only needed a 12% downvote to remove the milked dunk, haha, feels great actually. I wouldn't have a problem with you asking for freedom, but don't milk in the process and yet call yourself clean.

Quite a retard if you ask me ☹️
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@wil.metcalfe ·
$0.08
Hey man... Although I understand the passion behind your words I hope that you realize that how we conduct ourselves on the Hive Blockchain matters. 

It is my goal to spread good will everywhere I go... and although not every situation is bound to be within bounds... that doesn't mean we have to conduct ourselves in an unsportsmanlike way. 

Let's all do our utmost to be as friendly as possible... If we don't prioritize this... then Hive will no longer be a welcoming and friendly place for people to human. 

We all need to keep this in mind.
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@espandorr · (edited)
$0.25
If you visit my blog, you'll find one post of hers there(reblogged) and if you check her previous posts too, I have upvoted a few as well, I really don't have a problem with her, lol. But when it comes to this, it really isn't in my place to support the tag spam and milking of rewards...

I hope you understand that too
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@mrtats ·
$0.21
I do not necessarily agree with you, calling her a retard is a strong word, I do agree on that part. But her post yesterday was the epitome of stupidity and her accusations on that post are definitely hostile. I do not need to be friendly to someone that is already taken a hostile stance and spewing baseless conspiracy theories.

And you know that what she has done with this post is frowned upon. 
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@espandorr ·
Unless you buy more dunk tokens to self vote and make me rich, I'll keep using my power to remove every undeserved dunks you get πŸ™‚
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@maylenasland ·
$0.02
This is such an undesired behavior in Hive...for some of us at least. It just comes from wickedness, envy, and frustration.
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@espandorr ·
Non of the above! 
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@ewkaw · (edited)
Question: What, according to you, happens with the rewards removed from downvoted posts?

Downvoted for providing false information.
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@frankbacon ·
$0.03
HIVE!D

![IMG_20210625_172402_639.jpg](https://images.hive.blog/DQmXTi7dV5i9TofrVK5CJLmKE6XD4GWEZUtmsCBiZefhFbe/IMG_20210625_172402_639.jpg)
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@hakeke ·
You win.  I'm really sorry.  I hope you feel better.
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@hakeke ·
Your downvotes are so scary, save me plz γ…œγ…œ;;
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@mrtats.dunk ·
$0.05
@regenerette your personal issues with @hivewatchers and your conspiracy theories are not related to dunksocial. Seeing that you are self-voting these unrelated content with the delegation given to you by @dunksocial is also highly concerning. You are supposed to curate worthy posts with that delegation, not your shitfest. I'll have to ask you to stop your tag abuse once and for all.
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@espandorr ·
She's milking lol. I don't get why @dunksocial has not considered removing the delegations yet. She has liquid dunk and has staked non. She's of no good anyway.

She self-voted this? Lol. Let me help run it to zero 🀣
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@dunksocial ·
$0.33
@mrtats.dunk @espandorr @regenerette 

This is quite the situation playing out here. I have no interest in jumping in and taking sides in any way as I am of the mindset that we should all be able to say what we would like on Hive and Dunk Social. The only things that are topically relevant to the health of Dunk Social here are the concept of tag spamming and the dangers of self voting. The delegation that I gave to @regenerette was to provide the chance to generate DUNK rewards for her willingness to discuss digital marketing with me as she has expertise in the field. I think that she has a lot to add to the community, but is having a frustrating few days and is attempting to express this issue. I think that I understand the reasons for tagging DUNK, but I also feel frustrated with being involved at all as I just want this platform to be a space to discuss basketball. Self-voting is also something that is dangerous to the health of the platform, but that is why we have downvoting, if members of the community feel it necessary to downvote a post they may do so at their own discretion. For now, I will leave the delegation where it is and ask kindly that posts just remain basketball related to everyone's best effort! I hope that this issue is resolved for you @regenerette and that we can all move forward and continue to create our community.
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@regenerette ·
Hide!
Your shitty language directed to me yesterday just makes me advice you to HIDE behind this account that you are using now. Once I found your other accounts, they will be reported and treated properly, according to your behavior. 
You have no idea Why I am in Dunk and you don’t own enough info to have a pertinent narative. 

Hide!
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@mrtats ·
Reported to whom exactly, I am free to call you whatever I want, don't you like freedom? Are you trying to censorship me? My accounts are public, feel free to report them. 
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@racemlaadhar ·
XOXO
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@todkrank ·
"They" have taken down cranium's extra accounts with a clear message that it will no longer be tolerated. What's the point of tagging them?
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