RE: Pausing AI Agent Development on Hive by therealwolf

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hive · @therealwolf · Jan 4 '25

There was never any farming done, nor was there any planned. The last comments by @hiveusmaximus were already declined, afterwards the account was nuked to -5 rep regardless. 

The reason I disagree with disabled rewards by default is that it's limiting the potential impact by AI agents. I'm fully aware that @hiveusmaximus was an early version, but at this point, anytime rewards for any AI agent would be enabled, the account would be at the mercy of downvoters? Do you believe that this attitude will foster innovation? I don't.

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@cwow2 · Jan 4 '25

$0.78

@hiveusmaximus might be early, but it might not even be the first :o

Hiveusmaximus legit fooled me when I was scrolling through Snaps x)
I am still for Downvotes as a way to do anti-abuse.

>Do you believe that this attitude will foster innovation?

No, is it good to have guardrails? Yes.
But no, it does not foster innovation.

>There was never any farming done, nor was there any planned.

True, you were upvoting the bot until after the downvotes.

<u>Genuine question.</u>

Why don't you stay a bit powered up? I know you have server cost as a witness, so some hive needs to be pulled out to pay for that.
But does it have to be all?

It seems this is the main problem people have?

👍 alex-rourke, antisocialist, buttcoins, livinguktaiwan, freebornsociety, apis.hive, yayogerardo
👎 endhivewatchers

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@alex-rourke · Jan 4 '25

$0.18

> Why don't you stay a bit powered up? I know you have server cost as a witness, so some hive needs to be pulled out to pay for that.
But does it have to be all?

I rather like this question.  I'd love to read a response.

👍 buttcoins, cwow2

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@cwow2 · Jan 4 '25

We need a "have seen" feature on Hive xD

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@jelly13 · Jan 5 '25

$0.52

Downvotes are great as long as the upvoters do not get penalised for supporting the downvoted content. 

The reason other stakeholders do not stand up is that it costs a lot of curating money. We shall never know if stakeholders are fine with that (unless the voting system gets fixed)

Top20 witness should be working on this, rather than answering personal questions (as if content quality was related to author's HP)

👍 ecoinstant, votehero, thefoundation, voter002, voter003, voter000, tomiscurious, msp-makeaminnow, fatman, we-are-one, voter007, bpcvoter1

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@ecoinstant · Jan 6 '25

Im not dead yet but sometimes I feel like it on this issue

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