RE: Community Discussion and Updates: Hive Airdrop Exclusion List and Code Corrections, Core Developer Meetings by ats-david

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hiveblockchain · @ats-david · Apr 6 '20

$1.24

When creating a new chain, we can distribute tokens however we wish. In this case, we decided to not drop tokens on those who fundamentally disagree with the purpose of a blockchain. I have no desire to give free tokens to people on a decentralized platform and in a freely-associated community when those people support centralization and brazenly ransom user accounts with their centralized power. 

I see that some people here don't agree and think it's somehow a PR mistake. I think those people are extremely myopic and maybe don't understand the basic principles themselves.  

I think you need to give this a read or a re-read.

https://peakd.com/hive/@ats-david/do-you-even-hive-bro

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@balticbadger · Apr 9 '20 (edited)

So did Justin sun receive 10million hive or not? Why the heck did cz binance get an airdrop? To be clear, I support the decision to exclude people (even though I was one of them, by mistake). But why, then, airdrop to those causing the hardfork in the first place. From someone with no inside knowledge, but an active user it appears very troubling, Imagine how it looks from the outside. I am asking, in the name of transparency and decentralization, that this issue be formally addressed by @hiveio or top 20 witness. If it already has please direct me to the post.

Edit: I get the code did the discrimination but certainly if you made an exclusion for Justin suns main account you could have for the others as well and not just hand over the power.

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@ats-david · Apr 9 '20

> So did Justin sun receive 10million hive or not? 

I don’t know how much HIVE Justin may have received. We don’t know customer balances on exchanges.

> Why the heck did cz binance get an airdrop?

They received the airdrop because they stated that they would participate in it and distribute the HIVE tokens to their customers. 

My personal opinion when discussing this before the fork was that we should not drop to exchanges. There are pros and cons associated with that but it was my opinion that the pros outweighed the cons in this case. 

> ...if you made an exclusion for Justin suns main account...

I don’t believe there were any exceptions made for any particular accounts. What exactly are you referring to?

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@fredrikaa · Apr 6 '20

I think you've articulated that point of view really well. But not everyone will be taking their time to delve into the long history of Steem and Hive and get the full perspective, only hear that Hive excluded certain accounts belonging to "normal" users.

👍 funtraveller

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@bobskibob · Apr 7 '20

need to think what is "just" not PR. what do you believe is right?

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@marki99 · Apr 7 '20

$0.03

Even if you are right, reputation does not work that way. Practically, people are going to know that some accounts other than Steemit, Inc's have been excluded. 

It's better to start without a black cloud of negativity concerning the origin of the coin.

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@ats-david · Apr 7 '20

Great. I want people to know that some accounts were excluded. It was publicly announced for a reason and the rationale was explained. People can disagree and vote to overrule that exclusion.

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@marki99 · Apr 7 '20

I understand why you'd want that, they deserve it. Don't think it was best for us though.

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@justineh · Apr 8 '20

As for PR there is no black cloud.. seems those in the blockchain space (who actually understand it) fully support the idea of not freely airdropping a new asset to those who actively contributed in the destruction of the last one. As this wasn't about "opinions" it was about actions. 

The only cloud I see is from those in this echo chamber who think people are entitled to things. 

This isn't a PR issue in the slightest.

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