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json_metadata | "{"app":"musing/1.1","appTags":["christianity","religion","musing","steem","steemit",""],"appCategory":"christianity","appTitle":"If someone slaps you on the right cheek, would you offer the other cheek?","appBody":"<p><strong>BACKGROUND INFO:</strong></p>\n<p>I personally subscribed to the <strong>Turn the Other Cheek</strong> philosophy in my late teens, and throughout my 20's, after focusing on the Gospels found in the New Testiment of the Bible.</p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmeN79DKiMGgbEefQTQ22Dak7kGFDcvGGkheqECZsrcVmf/girls-1266673_1920.jpg\"/></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>The results I got from that philosophy though, were not entirely good.</p>\n<p>I was taken advantage of financially in my late teens and early twenties (while I lived in the United States) and my marriage only improved in my 30's, after I discovered the True Value of Self-Respect and Mutual-Respect.</p>\n<p>The popular story of Christ (where this Philosophy is sourced) is not an entirely good one - It might have been honorable when Christ accepted abuse (though that's debatable) without fighting back, resorting to violence or otherwise preventing or stopping the abuse, but remember, that's only half of the story.</p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmU6nWuTQMQqasvk3ieV5qwHuromTt73MDvd2gU9p5x8LJ/hell-1690451_1920.jpg\"/></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>The Biblical stories end with revenge, a fierce and harsh revenge, where Christ is said to return to Earth to reward his true followers and cast his enemies, non-supporters and bystanders in a deathless death of eternal torment in burning sulfur.</p>\n<ul>\n <li><strong>In parts of the New Testiment of the Bible, Christ is said to turn the other cheek, but towards the end of the Bible stories, he doesn't.</strong></li>\n</ul>\n<p>The stories of Christ (whether true or not) illustrate what happens when a person turns the other cheek for a prolonged period of time.</p>\n<p>Self-Preservation kicks in and the victim becomes the aggressor. This can even happen unconsciously when a person's unconscious mind dictates revenge without that person consciously wanting to take revenge.</p>\n<ul>\n <li>Self-Preservation is engraved in all human beings, and can be triggered by our unconscious mind.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>So if you care about others, and want to protect them from the passive-aggressive tendencies you'd acquire from turning the other cheek, don't turn the other cheek, and insist on Mutual Respect (<strong>Win - Win</strong>) instead.</p>\n<p><strong>ANSWER:</strong></p>\n<p>My response would depend on why I was slapped and by who, but I most likely wouldn't be slapping anyone back, and I wouldn't be turning the other cheek either. I would most likely want to get to the heart of the matter, figure out what happened and build a case for <strong>Mutual Respect</strong>.</p>\n<p>But the exact details of my response would be determined based on the actual details of the encounter.</p>\n<ol>\n <li>Photo of Slap https://pixabay.com/photo-1266673/</li>\n <li>Photo of Hell https://pixabay.com/photo-1690451/</li>\n</ol>","appDepth":2,"appParentPermlink":"p36dxkmyw","appParentAuthor":"citimillz","musingAppId":"aU2p3C3a8N","musingAppVersion":"1.1","musingPostType":"answer"}" |
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<p>I agree with your assessment. </p><p>The Philosophy taught by Christ is indeed a valuable set of ideas and is better than "an eye for an eye" but it isn't the best Philosophy for Personal Relationships.</p><p>Self-Respect and Mutually Respect can be fostered, promoted and even enforced in our personal lives, and ultimately achieves greater results than Lose-Win exchanges.</p><p>Win-Win is better!</p>
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Absolutely. I know quite a bit how detrimental offering the other cheek can be. In a culture like ours, where being honest and a pacifist is considered to be *pendejo* (dumb), people take advantage of whoever practices that. Very often we have to stand up and avoid the hit, at least, if we want to continue in the game. You have avery happy new year's eve celebration. My best wishes for you and your beautiful family.
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