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<a href="https://musing.io/q/elehcim8/pkwyaftgx"><b>Is there more to photography than spectatorship?</b></a><p>Generally it is in bad form to take photos of the homeless. If we live vicariously through photos, how deeply do we actually feel when we view photos of suffering or war photos from other countries? Is it right to be privy to those intimate moments? </p>
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<p>Of course, taking a photography is not just being an spectator! Photography is basically a medium to store beauty and memories! Its a way to keep an anchor to the past, places we have visited people we love that are far away or that are not with us anymore... Photography can also be a political statement, a way to spread news, a way to denounce a system and a way to change lives.</p> <p>We say a photography is worth a thousand words, It's not a lie! Photography has countless of meanings and its way more than just being an spectator! A photography can change the world and they have done so many times, to me thats way more than just spectating!</p>
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<p>I totally agree with you about the memories and keeping photos of loved ones. </p><p>Now playing devil's advocate: </p><p>A photograph says a thousand words from the perspective of the photographer. We all perceive things differently. Ever take a photo of a place from different angles? Do you get the same kind of thousand word story? I would also say that photographs are lies because we curate them to look that way. "say cheese." "pout 80 times for a selfie" "i'm going to do something cool, take a photo" Or we wait for a good moment to snap a photo. People want witnesses to cool, happy events. A photo encases that moment forever, like a trophy and photographers are bystanders to that real time action. </p><p>Now what about other people's private moments, things that if you were put in their place, you might want others to see. Take for example this photo of children getting burned with napalm in Vietnam: http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6774512-3x2-940x627.jpg or women in Syria receiving some bad news: https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/delil-souleiman.jpg?w=1200&quality=85&h=786</p><p> What do you feel? and should we have access to these intimate moments? we are viewing these photographs through a looking glass. Its like we're in a museum or an art gallery leisurely being entertained, finding inspiration and when it gets too tough we can leave it at the door. How do we stop being spectators?
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<p>I feel like <strong>viewing</strong> photography can be considered spectatorship if it seen by people more removed from the nature of the object being photographed. </p> <p>War photos ranging from all time periods in history up until the present have one thing in common, intense suffering. When I look at an image of a battlefield from WWII I feel like a spectator since I am so far removed from that time and place. When I look at an image stemming from a war torn country in the Middle East in the present, I still feel like a spectator but also feel something more. I feel that this is happening now and there is possibly something I can do to help. I feel like this is where the line is blurred between just being a spectator and something more . </p> <p>When the photograph instills a feeling that could lead to a rise to action or a sudden realization, you become more than just a spectator. You become what the photographer may want you to become. An active player, a contributor and someone who could possibly make a difference. </p> <p><br></p> <figure><img src="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/photography/proof/rights-exempt/files/2015/12/151231-jessie-wender-nye-07.adapt.768.1.jpg"/></figure> <p><strong>Source: </strong>https://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/photography/proof/rights-exempt/files/2015/12/151231-jessie-wender-nye-07.adapt.768.1.jpg</p> <p>I believe the <strong>intention </strong>behind the photographer's decision to take a photo of the homeless or other types of suffering dictates if it is <strong>bad practice </strong>or not. Of course if it is to mock them or to use them to their claim to fame then it is bad practice (reliant on moral compass). But if the intention is to raise awareness or tell a story then the photographer is an active participant in the possible improvement of those people's lives. If a journalist from a country experiencing turmoil in the form of war, or natural disaster is desperate to get their message across to other countries for aid, then them taking photos to send a message is far from being just a spectator. </p> <p>To answer the last part, I do not think it is wrong to be privy to those intimate moments. Sharing the knowledge with others and spreading awareness may be part of the photographer's plan all along, so, taking an interest would not be such a bad thing. </p> <p>I believe that people can be spectators up to a certain point. It is when the photo makes you feel strong emotions that make you act in any way that it becomes more.</p> <p><strong>Here is an interesting link to read about times photographs have inspired action</strong>.</p> <p>https://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/proof/2015/12/31/8-photos-that-inspired-action/</p> <p><br></p>
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I enjoyed reading your view on the matter! I do believe that intention has so much to do with it and understand that everyone has they're own expression of goodness and morality. Some questions: Do you think a photographer's intent is enough to count as active involvement? if they take a photo and move on to a different intimate pain? it's like a one hit wonder. And if you as the viewer feel, but don't move on the momentum of those feelings does that actually mean anything more than a fleeting epiphany wrapped in self absorption?
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<p>Yes, I think the photographer's intent is enough to count as active involvement. When a photographer is able to move the masses with a single shot then they have achieved their goal and have potentially triggered a few people to take action on an issue. That person may then move on to the next pain, whether it be a picture of a different scene of suffering or it be completely different like trash in a once beautiful lake. </p><p>As the viewer I would say it becomes more gray. If you are moved physcologically to a realization then you have actively taken part of the photographer's goal which could have been to instill a sense of feeling for these people. But it can also be seen as "wow that is horrible" (swipe next) which can be taken as just spectating. If the viewer even shares the image with friends by posting it to social media or spreading a link then awareness is being spread. Though not every person who sees it may even care, even that small sprinkle of people who do can reciprocate the action. Generally how news and images are spread. </p>
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