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json_metadata | "{"app":"Musing","appTags":["logic","argument","thoughts","notion","philosophy","ideas",""],"appCategory":"logic","appTitle":"What would you consider as a 'Futile Argument'?","appBody":"<p>Well it's true that every argument has some logical background behind it and every point no matter how ridiculous it may sound has some logical truth to it, but whether or not all the sides of an argument have logical truths is irrelevant when the futility of an argument is considered.</p><p>When a person says that an argument is futile, what it implies is that there's nothing you're going to say that's going to make them change their mind and at that point, your opinion is irrelevant. It could be that the circumstances for the argument have made it that whatever is agreed upon after the argument won't change the outcome of anything or the person or people you're arguing with aren't interested in changing their minds on the matter.</p><p>For somebody to say that an argument is futile then chances are that they've made up their mind on what they want to do and even if your making sense with what you're saying, you opinion will not be acknowledged or taken into consideration.</p><p>When people say that it's futile to argue with you then they've either seen that you won't budge on your beliefs or opinions, or they know that whatever they personally feel is right will not change even if they hear your view in things. It's futile because arguments are supposed to be like debates, the parties involved present their own views and opinions on a certain matter with each party listening to the others arguments and comparing it to theirs. The idea is to settle and agree on one thing at the end of the argument.</p><p>If nothing is going to change and nobody is willing to back down then the argument is or was futile.</p><p>I hope this helps.</p>","appDepth":2,"appParentPermlink":"f3dma47lx","appParentAuthor":"philipkavan","musingAppId":"aU2p3C3a8N","musingAppVersion":"1.1","musingPostType":"answer"}" |
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json_metadata | "{"app":"Musing","appTags":["logic","argument","thoughts","notion","philosophy","ideas",""],"appCategory":"logic","appTitle":"What would you consider as a 'Futile Argument'?","appBody":"<p>Arguing with someone whose livelihood ( $$$) depends on not understanding your argument is Futile Argument.</p>\n<p>In other words , if you are paid to play dumb no one can out-argue you to convince you of a given point.</p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Arguing with NRA PR person about reasonable gun control is futile.</p>\n<p><br></p>","appDepth":2,"appParentPermlink":"f3dma47lx","appParentAuthor":"philipkavan","musingAppId":"aU2p3C3a8N","musingAppVersion":"1.1","musingPostType":"answer"}" |
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json_metadata | "{"app":"Musing","appTags":["logic","argument","thoughts","notion","philosophy","ideas",""],"appCategory":"logic","appTitle":"What would you consider as a 'Futile Argument'?","appBody":"<p>An argument is futile If the people arguing didn't care to pay attention to the opinions of each other. Argument arises as a result of fifferences in opinions. The way you view or understand a thing, may not be the way someone else understanods that same thing, and both of you would consider your understanding of the concept to be the right one. </p><p>if such people with a difference in opinion meet and engage in an argument, they should be able to prove to each other or one another why they think their view about the said subject is the right one with facts. If they keep talking blindly without paying attention to each other or giving each other chance to explain their points, the argument is a futile one. Argument should be treated like a debate where the arguing parties are given the chance to say their opinions and facts without interruption.</p>","appDepth":2,"appParentPermlink":"f3dma47lx","appParentAuthor":"philipkavan","musingAppId":"aU2p3C3a8N","musingAppVersion":"1.1","musingPostType":"answer"}" |
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