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RE: Normie Talk - HF21 Explained (SPS + EIP) What it is and what happens next by prydefoltz

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· @prydefoltz · (edited)
The number one reason people don't curate more is not bidbots, it is the limited TIME in the day. Unless engagement is directly linked to payment, nothing is going to change. Link rewards to engagement and not just SP.  The situation will be ameliorated. People will do what is in their financial best interest. If they need to do some curating to get their payout, they will make time for it. 

A 50/50 split only has you adding more to the same baskets and taking it away from the people who are actually engaging on the platform.

And let's be real. The downvote pool will change nothing. There is no way a little fish is going to downvote a dolphin or whale regardless of the lack quality to their post. But it does mean that bigger fish can now bully little fish for free. 

Please don't go through with this hardfork, you 'll be cutting our growth off at the knees.
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@justineh ·
Based on your response, I don’t think you read the post, so I’m not sure how to respond.

Please read it and let me know what you think, then I will gladly discuss. 

*PS I have nothing to do with wether the HF happens or not any more than any other community member actively trying to ensure the discussion about pros and cons occurs.*
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@prydefoltz · (edited)
Yes. I read the post. I understand you do not make the choice. I was using this space as a forum and my comment wasn't directed at you. Sorry if you felt personally attacked or something. It was not intended. Wishing you a good day:)
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@justineh ·
No, not at all! I just wanted to ensure I could address any concerns I could or try to answer questions.

 You have edited your comment though so let me catch back up...

Ok, so first thing I agree that lack of curation is due to time and cost vs benefit. Cost being the time it takes to curate and benefit being the ROI based on that. Currently it is not profitable to curate and it takes time.. therefore people do what is easier. 

The idea of the proposed changes is that there will be a clear incentive to curate rather than just abuse to get rewards or do an auto vote on a known bid bot user. With all three aspects combined it will now be most beneficial (profitable) for an individual to find content that does not have much of a reward and vote it. 

I did point out that I don’t think large stake holders are going to take the time to do this (or other non engaging accounts) but they could very likely delegate to curators or join a trail, as now those actions would be profitable. 

The downvote pool is actually the only aspect of the EIP that I think truly can change behavior here and that relies on large stake holders doing so. Because as you mentioned, smaller accounts can’t take on larger accounts.. the big boys have to do that 🙂 and many are already working together to figure out how they will do just that. 

Smaller accounts can most definitely help with this by doing the same to smaller accounts abusing etc. We all can play a role in rewarding the behavior we want to see. 

Honestly I do understand that downvotes have been used to bully in the past and there is even talk of having more of an organized effort to counter that. But if I’m honest I don’t feel this problem is as big as people make it, and I say that as someone who was bullied with flags for weeks (1000’s of them). 

I believe we need an overhaul in the culture of downvotes and the only way to do that is to begin using them correctly. 

I hope that helps. My goal is not to change everyone’s opinion or sell them on an the idea, just rather try to explain the ideas behind it so everyone can make an informed decision.
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