Very interesting philosophy. So the idea is that the entire universe around us is really just a construct of our own mind? Everything we perceive is just what we think. It is interesting, but even if that is true wouldn't you perceive that people are independent? Otherwise the world would not be as it is. I guess they would argue the way "I" see it. Seems to be an incomplete thought. Maybe the argument to them is that each of us is real and independently changing the reality around us by the way we perceive the world. If we all think independently, the world will be so, if we think that the world is absolutely controlled, it will be. The argument is that the Solipsist has to agree with individualism or create a nightmare of their own construction.

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' World and other minds donot exist'  in this basis i can say that it may be alike the idea of solitary....being ownself.... the theory is a complex one... i my concern i too face this kind of thinking in my life.... when you feel something deeply with your own purspective the world dont exist..... your own mind and  the being you are the ultimate reality there....

reasoning is in the eyes of the mind, as a man thinketh so he is

That exchange would have driven me crazy. I like the empty house analogy. 
"I can move their limbs by force if I want. .."
Seriously? Lol.  
"Order is a societal construct "
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Also i just did an article on the "gray area " It is simply put respecting those who are unable to physically advocate for themselves.  And there has been many instances where those in a "vegetative" state recover and can then tell you about things that were happening around them.  Never assume. Same can be said of dementia patients.  Never assume They dont possess some control,  they too have moments of lucidity, however brief

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You described it so well in the conversation  made it a lot easier for us to understand..... thanks

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Right on Franz ! Good post ...  This is a really good conversation for the sheep out there .. I have seen this same argument about us calling them sheep. So I guess I'm calling all of you SOLIPSIST, SHEEP !!!!  LMAO, Great Post Bro !
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Is this a paraphrased actual conversation? Who is the solipsist? I think if someone actually believes they can't know what is real except for what they perceive in their own mind, they'd have to at least acknowledge that there are things within their mind that they seem to have control of and things that they don't. Their own thoughts and actions vs the people around them.

If I were a solipsist, I'd also assume that the chances of the outside world being real would be just as likely as not, and therefore treat it as if it were real, as well as the possibility of meaning. Assuming it wasn't could lead to all kinds of problems, including mass murder and premature death as the solipsist jumps off of a nonexistent cliff. 

So, I don't really follow the reasoning as to why the solipsist would be against voluntaryism. I mean, it seems it could go either way. Unless you mean the kind of solipsist who assumes the worst?

ask and it is given.  - jesus

i'm not super religious, far from it.  i was an atheist.  but i put something to the test.  i asked questions of God, and waited for the answer.  like a cat watching its prey.  i watched my mind, i watched the world around me, i quietly waited for what came out.  if it wasn't the answer i'd dismiss the thought and continue waiting.

end result, was i got the answers by following my attention.  i couldn't force it to come, but i got very good at being observant of the world around me and my attention.  sometimes i'd be drawn to people, place, books, and temples.  I found many good people in the world, and found many great places to be.  The world is an amazing place when all it holds are more answers and mysteries to unravel and unfold.

I have proven to myself that i can be good at anything, and anything can be improved.  this limitless nature is a given.

bruce lee had a great philosophy, he expressed it in his work.

I am simply thrilled to even see the word solipsism being discussed anywhere outside of textbooks. It's all around us.

Yes! Another excellent post.

I don't think I've ever met a solipsist as coherent as your fictitious creation. 

It is unclear how solipsists fall for the 'evil demon' thought experiment, minus the demon. I think this is where the 'simulation hypothesis' originates in slightly altered form. The nature-conferred highest self-executive capacity is, ipso facto, demonstration of the direct control, and therefore, ownership of the self. 

The flaw in solipsism appears to be, in part, the assumption that 'it is possible, therefore it is certain'. 

It is creationism where the self is the creator, and sustainer. Since we are not extant before we are conceived, this is impossible, it denies direct observation.

Friend, you have shared a very important philososophical theory and impressive arguing...i think though the concept of"solipsism"is the supporter of one's own mind, that in one word it can be called as"self centered"motive..so other than his knowledge bearing such mentality, anything outside his mind is unjustified... So this type of solipsism "philosophy "cann't  be acceptable at anymore... Thanks for sharing this post based on philososophical view...

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Yes if everyone thinks for himself best, do his best without harming others, the world will be the happiest place to to live in. No doubt a child is a product of two souls but he should have a right to choose his way voluntarily,so head of to  voluntarism. Have a happy night friend.

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Conversation  is beautifully depicted to elaborate your thought .. our  ideologies must be to give  priorities to our thoughts .we must not be directed by others..It's true,guidance  is needed in the initial stage...inspiring post.

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Very interesting,
I agree that everything outside of self is unsure but also the things inside. "The map is not the territory" -A term coined by Alfred Korzybski, basically implying that we are separated from reality.  The map is a metaphor for our belief system, values and principles (How we view the world),  the map of the world we have in our minds is not the real world but just a reflection of our beliefs.  Each person has a different reality, based on the fact that we all have different maps and ways to view the world. Most people (or all of them), instead of interacting with the world, interact with their map.

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I generally don't have a horse in this particular race, but it does feel like you are talking to a strawman here ;)

I'm not 100% clear on what you mean when you say voluntarism and anarchism and I'm not sure what "a proponent of solipsism" really would be. To me with my quite possibly limited knowledge on the matter, anarchism is basically either an utopia or just a highly inefficient way to organize with a very low level of justicy ensured depending on the flavor and solipsism is the admission that there is an intrinsic problem with being sure of anything 100%, but which shouldn't stop us from accepting we share a common reality and going from there as the only practical thing we can do.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. :)