RE: Proof of Brain Theory & Further Optimization by vikisecrets

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pob · @vikisecrets · Aug 10 '21

An abuser who is legitimately downvoted could use the free upvote to counter the downvote.

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@borislavzlatanov · Aug 10 '21

$0.59

OK, so if an abuser is legitimately downvoted, does a free upvote help them in some way? Currently, abusers can use a regular upvote to counter downvotes on their posts. How would a free upvote help them? (Remember they can't use both types of upvotes on a post.)

Thinking about it a bit, I guess I can see how it could help abusers to harvest more rewards. If they make their own post (let's say it's plagiarized post), they can upvote other posts for curation rewards AND counteract any downvotes on their plagiarized post using the free upvote. So if anyone upvotes their plagiarized post (e.g. they didn't know it was plagiarized), it could be free money for them if they can use the free upvote to counteract any downvotes received for plagiarism. So I guess I can see how it could help them.

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@theycallmedan · Aug 11 '21

$0.12

That is a good attack vector, but the extent is pretty low. First off, you can't upvote for more than the upvote is worth nor more than your HP. So, this would take a scammer posting others' content, getting high rewards, + being/having access to a large stake. Most scammers don't keep HP powered up, they steal it right away, so their free upvote would be worthless. 

In the rare scenario where you had a large stakeholder posting other content, they would quickly be found out, curators would stop voting them, and the downvotes would mount up as word got around. We had a similar scenario. Actually, that's what I love about Hive. It seems like we have seen it all; even the most unlikely of events take place.

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@theycallmedan · Aug 11 '21 (edited)

$0.12

The person who was legitimately downvoted had to have something to downvote in the first place, which would be the self vote. You can't unvote and revote the post twice with the free upvote. So the free upvote does not help the attacker in this case.

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@smooth · Aug 11 '21

$2.05

You can split your stake into two accounts, post with both, upvote one post with each account, and then use the other account to counter downvotes.

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@theycallmedan · Aug 11 '21

Yeah, this is true. If a large abuser split his votes, he would get a free counter effectively for 100% of his vote. That would be too big of an attack vector for what would be gained; upvote abuse is done much more than any other type of abuse.

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@thoughts-in-time · Aug 12 '21

Why does it have to be his stake, what about the DAO?

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