RE: Curation at it's worst... by scholaris.pob

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proofofbrain · @scholaris.pob · Jul 7 '21

$0.04

Oh, what's a rancher vote?  I've talked with @trostparadox about that in the past.  
- DV on rewards would, in his formal proposal, be a part of a consensus vote.  
- You would approach the major voters to find out why they voted that way and then, at least first, request that they stop or remove the upvote.  

Explaining the reasoning for the downvote, as you mentioned, would eliminate a lot of problems too.  No one knows who the POB account holder truly is.  I think...



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@antisocialist · Jul 8 '21

$0.17

If someone is acting counter to the interests of the group, and won't discuss the situation, you have to figure out what you are gonna do.
As this situation is in a community still finding it's rhythm there are no precedence to go by.

I'm of the opinion that one would force a pow wow to find consensus with the object of the friction, and absent that, one would act unilaterally to support the interests of the group.
One might want to reach out for other options from within the tribe, but ultimately the good of the tribe is what has to be determined by the tribe.
Maybe most folks don't think this is an issue.
They would have to be asked.

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@geneeverett · Jul 9 '21 (edited)

$0.08

I don’t rely think more accounts should get hurt by all the back and fourth.  It should be POB big wigs make some policy on this. If they don’t then dump and show them u guys are serious.  I just think the downvoting thing will make things worse as random accounts who don’t know background will be hurt and do it back

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@revise.pob · Jul 8 '21 (edited)

Rancherelaxo, aka Haejin, who i'm sure you've heard of?!? I'm an occasional victim of his upvotes. 

Communication to the owner is almost certainly the best direction, I guess what we really want is them delegating to some kind of ethical curation account. 

It's probably possible to narrow the account owner down to a tiny handful of people you know, with a bit of digging!

Doesn't it cost a small fortune in BEE or something to set up a proper token? Someone had to shift funds around to buy that shortly before, not many people doing that in the time window this all came live. 

It'd be worth knowing. I don't generally invest very much in projects run by ONE ANONYMOUS individual, that's EXTREME HIGH RISK.  

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@scholaris.pob · Jul 10 '21

Haejin I've heard of but I didn't know the alias.  

> Doesn't it cost a small fortune in BEE or something to set up a proper token? 

I heard is was a couple of thousands of BEE to set it up.  I'm not sure what the actual number is at this time.  

>It'd be worth knowing. I don't generally invest very much in projects run by ONE ANONYMOUS individual, that's EXTREME HIGH RISK.

I can't fault your concerns.  They're definitely valid.  The only token I'm 100% comfortable holding is my STEM tokens.  The owner always responds to questions.  I haven't really seen him push anyone away to the point of ignoring.  That's kind of amazing.



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@revise.pob · Jul 11 '21

I thought it was around a thousand so in that area for sure. 

Leo is pretty trustworthy too!



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@trostparadox · Jul 8 '21

$0.05

>what's a rancher vote?

He is referring to haejin aka ranchorelaxo.

ranchorelaxo has 1.5 million HP.

Whenever ranchorelaxo upvotes someone's content, the 'powers-that-be' like to swoop in and downvote the post, to nullify the rancho upvote.

As @antisocialist pointed out above:
>When you do that, you only hurt the little voters?
He still has x% of the somewhat smaller curation pool.

That's the point I was making on Discord.  Nuking the post because you don't like the whale upvoter punishes all the legitimate manual curators who genuinely thought the content deserved an upvote -- a very short-sighted and small-minded approach, imho.



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@antisocialist · Jul 8 '21 (edited)

$0.05

I would burn anything he voted on to zero, then I would compensate some percentage to the innocent, but that would require some greedy f**ks to let some pennies fall from their grasp. 
This option has been rejected multiple times in the past when suggested.

It makes me wonder which side those folks are on.
Clearly they don't care about the little people that get hurt, because they know the math inside and out, and refuse to do anything but harm them even more.
Smdh.

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@geneeverett · Jul 9 '21

$0.08

Unfortunately it will just start more back and fourth downvoting.  Ur morally in right I’d def say with this idea.  But it won’t end there. Seen it enough on Steemit years back and here on Hive.  Just seen it or similar b4.  I hope I’m wrong if that’s the plan

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