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RE: Curation at it's worst... by scholaris.pob

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· @scholaris.pob ·
Some of the extremes that you pointed out were pretty clear to see like with your article on Lassecash.  

Is there a word count/rewards ratio where you deem something is over-rewarded?  Could it be that objective?  Is there some consensus behind the scenes before a DV on over-rewarding gets issued?  

For instance, self-voting is tolerated, but if I gave this comment a full upvote on my POB account, I "feel" that would be malicious.  Would I be correct in writing that observation?  

Are there types of malicious upvoting?  Just looking for guidance here.



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@themarkymark ·
> Is there a word count/rewards ratio where you deem something is over-rewarded? Could it be that objective?

It is very subjective.

> For instance, self-voting is tolerated, but if I gave this comment a full upvote on my POB account, I "feel" that would be malicious. Would I be correct in writing that observation?

In my opinion?  Yes.  I am personally not a fan of self voting comments.  In some rare cases I may do so with a small vote to bring it to the top of the comments if it is something critical.  But in almost all cases self voting comments is just farming.

> Are there types of malicious upvoting?

All the conspiracy posts that take half of trending that get massive votes for pseudo science.  All the whales that voted 5-20 vote posts that had no rewards to maximize their curation with little effort (pre-hardfork 25).  There are a few whales dropping $15-40 votes without regard to quality or even content and they stack on top of each other to take posts near $100 when they normally only take a few cents.  Just look at trending, you will see the same 5-6 whales controlling it with no regard to quality. 

I could go on, but I will struggle to find many cases of this elusive "malicious downvoting" that we are trying to stop by making laws on how to vote with their stake.
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@scholaris.pob ·
Christ almighty.  I keep going back to what you said in discord some time ago about the number of fraud attempts that occur on Hive.  This type of upvoting is just as bad.  

I appreciate your response, though.  Have you written any posts related to this type of upvoting?  Or, do you know anyone who has?

I think I have an idea about what people talk about regarding "malicious downvoting", but I don't have a full picture yet so I can't speak to it at this time.



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@themarkymark ·
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I’ve written many posts about specific cases but not in the idea in general. 

It’s unavoidable, people will vote friends, many will vote using as little effort as possible, many will vote things that are ridiculous but it is something they believe in, very few will organically curate to the best of the ability. 

But if you think of it, what crypto requires you to spend 2-8 hours a day really mostly shit content to receive 10% at best reward for it?  It’s expect that people in general will avoid doing that. 
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