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RE: Proposal to Change $HIVE at the Blockchain Level by holger80

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· @holger80 ·
Assuming a D.BUZZ post needs to have `max_accepted_payout=1 HBD`. This would mean:

* all posts that have `max_accepted_payout` set to 1 HBD are D.BUZZ posts, no matter on which frond-end the post was written
* all posts that do not have max_accepted_payout` equal to 1 HBD are not a D.BUZZ post.

My proposed changes are not temporary frond-end fixes. Agreement if a post is a D.BUZZ post is already defined at blockchain level. There is no way to cheat, either a post has the correct value for `max_accepted_payout` or not.

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@chrisrice · (edited)
> all posts that have max_accepted_payout set to 1 HBD are D.BUZZ posts, no matter on which frond-end the post was written

> all posts that do not have max_accepted_payout` equal to 1 HBD are not a D.BUZZ post.

If you or someone else that is more connected in the HIVE community can get Hive.Blog and @peakd to implement this change, of setting the max payout for posts published to the DBuzz Community to $1, please make it happen.

It would still be a temporary and somewhat messy fix since DAPPs could still launch, even tiny ones that are bootstrapped as simple services to game the system. 

I believe if you were us or another DAPP wanting to offer a reliable service without interruption from rogue actors, you'd be interested in code that made it impossible to game the max_accepted_payout as opposed to relying on verbal agreements with others, and the belief that everyone else in the future would agree to those agreements too.
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@chrisrice ·
> My proposed changes are not temporary frond-end fixes. Agreement if a post is a D.BUZZ post is already defined at blockchain level. There is no way to cheat, either a post has the correct value for max_accepted_payout or not.

There is a way to cheat.. 

1. Fork Hive.Blog and publish to our community without the max_accepted_payout code included in our community of the forked front-end.

All of the posts published in our D.Buzz Community reflect onto our site so the posts published to that forked front-end would not be constrained to $1.00 payouts and would therefore trend higher than our real users who posted from D.Buzz.
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@netuoso ·
Not sure you are really understanding how the blockchain works though. The frontend doesnt matter. Holger is saying that you should check the max_accepted_payout before considering the post as a valid DBuzz post. You also don't need to use Hive.blog or any other frontend to post to a community.

So if your website shows all posts in your community, that literally just means it is showing all posts with the category `hive-xxxxx` where `xxxxx` is your community number.
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@chrisrice ·
> Not sure you are really understanding how the blockchain works though. The frontend doesnt matter. Holger is saying that you should check the max_accepted_payout before considering the post as a valid DBuzz post. 

1. Ah.. checking to ensure that the max_accepted_payout was $1.00 would block any rogue actors from posting to our DAPP since we would filter those out by checking.

2. It sounds like the only issue now is how to get Hive.Blog and @peakd to set the max payouts in our D.Buzz Community to $1.00, right?
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@chrisrice ·
> You also don't need to use Hive.blog or any other frontend to post to a community.

People won't need to use Hive.Blog or @peakd to post to our community but we want them to be able to use both to post to our community so that our users will have more options.
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