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This actually supports my ultimate point on the whole thing. **You** are capable of seeing these things for yourself and capable of flagging them yourself so organizations like cheetah should not exist because they stop people like you and me from doing it ourselves, it gets us out of the habit because we don't see it. It's just like government constantly adding all these new services that you need that really you could and SHOULD be doing for yourself. That's why flagging and upvoting exist. So each of us as individuals can take responsibility for OUR community instead of a small group of elites taking it upon themselves and in so doing opening the door to corruption by creating an unstoppable force. I'm not saying they don't do any good. Im saying the good they do should be the responsibility of EVERYONE not just SOME! If it's such an expensive and difficult job which wasn't theirs to do in the first place then WHY? oh right... ...because it is actually profitable. I AM NOT 100% ON THIS. I AM open to arguments to the contrary but that is at this time how it appears to me. I am of course at this time looking into the entire thing much much more closely. I do at the end of the day prefer informed decisions over hearsay.
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Last reply along this thread for me I think @aaronmda. > flagging them yourself so organizations like cheetah should not exist because they stop people like you and me from doing it ourselves, You have a REP score of 54. Plagiarism is not only limited to those of low REP score. At the start of this thread, (my first reply to it), I had a rep score of 33. When I reported my first Copy Paste Plagiarism case to steemcleaners, my REP score was 26. You think as an individual that you can do something about it? I am sorry we are both living on completely different clouds. You cloud says that if you downvote someone with a REP of 72 then they are not ever ever going to retaliate and start down voting your REP into oblivion. Good luck on your way, one man can stand against many, if those many are ants. *I have enjoyed this back and forth, but it is time for me to move on, as you will never understand my **belief** that we need @cheetah, and I will never understand **your belief** that we can do it alone.
| author | bashadow |
|---|---|
| permlink | re-aaronmda-re-bashadow-re-pjheinz-let-s-talk-about-spam-and-bots-anti-spam-bots-that-posts-spam-1226-times-a-day-and-self-upvotes-them-20170812t010052471z |
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you missed the point, WE DON'T DO IT ALONE. WE ALL DO IT TOGETHER NOT JUST SOME PEOPLE IN ONE ORGANIZED UNQUESTIONABLE GROUP. you'll notice the people who actually run this rarely ever even take part in these conversations and when they do they just complain about the *"inconvenience"*, when everything they do to others like myself is unbelievably **inconvenient**. They seem content to let their lackey's take all the heat and then whale flag you for arguing with them.
| author | aaronmda |
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>WE DON'T DO IT ALONE. >WE ALL DO IT TOGETHER Okay, so how do we ALL do it together? Where do we ALL go to say hey that's SPAM, That's Plagiarism. @ionlysaymeep is a bot. All those meeps, could be considered SPAM by some. So where do we ALL go to discuss this matter ad-nauseum, to make an informed decision that yes it's a bot and it's meep's are spam. I don't think there is a solution to the spam and plagiarism issue. One man's Spam is another man's dinner. Plagiarism is a very very sticky issue on line and always will be, as will the right to free speech will be an issue. When it comes to social networks, there will always be bullies, whiners, and controllers. We need to stay vigilant against all three of these. @cheetah does not care what a person's Reputation score is, unfortunately some of the steemcleaners may be concerned about Reputation score. I am not sure anyone really RUNS this. @anyx has posted to this thread trying to clarify some things. (she is @cheetah 's creator ) @pjheinz has commented, with bold dots, but at least we know he is reading the thread. As for @ned and @dan, I don't think they really care too much about what happens on the social network side. Anyway, try to have a nice day, because both of us are most likely going to end up being smashed and bashed by the big guys on both sides.
| author | bashadow |
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I feel like there have been a lot of comments on this thread from the people involved trying to answer any of the questions raised.
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