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spam-bots · @sleepy-gary · Aug 8 '17

$2.05

This makes me very, very sad. I understand the DMCA/Plagiarism striker, but shouldn't the Admins of Steemit operate something like that? To keep the reward pool equally accessible to all? Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but I don't like the idea of spamming then self-upvoting your own posts. 

I had seen a list of users who do nearly the same thing, using their obscene vote power to upvote all of their own posts and comments.

Some might say that's just human nature, but I believe greed and egocentrists are learned behaviors.

👍 moala, sleepy-gary

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@fingolfin · Aug 9 '17 (edited)

$0.89

Hopefully my response, the response from patrice, and the comments from anyx on [this post](https://steemit.com/steemcleaner/@transisto/steemcleaner-please-update-your-support-us-instructions) help to give  you an idea of why the votes are cast the way they are.

As @orionsbelt mentioned, this a decentralized platform. There is literally nobody who works for steemit that does anything in an official capacity to fight plagiarism or abuse on the platform, it is all done by volunteers.

Edit: upvoting my own post because pjheinz flagged my last one without giving a reason, better safe than sorry with this one :)

👍 pfunk, fingolfin, sleepy-gary
👎 softgrip, pjheinz

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@pjheinz · Aug 12 '17 (edited)

$0.05

👍 aaronmda, pjheinz

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@fingolfin · Aug 9 '17

$0.91

I appreciate the open discussion, you'll notice that I haven't flagged you in retaliation because that really doesn't get us anywhere, even though you have flagged 2 of my comments now. 

I was answering @lpfaust and his comment asking for more transparency by trying to provide him with more transparency. I am also trying to clear up some misinformation, mainly the fact that you keep calling steemcleaners a bot. As I mentioned in other comments we are not a bot, literally just a group of people.

As far as the blacklist bot goes, I have no idea who runs it but it isn't steemcleaners or anyx. As far as I can tell it just follows cheetah or steemcleaner flags but we have no control over it and frankly no idea who does.

👍 pfunk, fingolfin

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@orionsbelt · Aug 8 '17

$0.07

There are no "admins" of steemit, this is decentralized platform working on consensus from witnesses(who keep blockchain alive), if someone should look into this issue then it should be the "witnesses"

👍 orionsbelt

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@sleepy-gary · Aug 8 '17

gotcha, thank you. I had been getting the impression that Dan and Ned were basically the gatekeepers/bodyguard admin type function.

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