RE: SPS Governance Proposal - Change the Threshold for Passing the Pre-Proposal Stage by emeraldtiger

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spsproposal · @emeraldtiger · May 9 '23

$0.21

While I think it is a good idea to give more opportunities for proposals to be voted by everyone, I still see some problems:

First, the people voting in pre-proposals are the ones really interested in governance. I know a number of players that just cast their votes to get rid of the notification window, without giving a serious thinking about the proposal itself.

Also, more votes will mean more complaints about "endless voting notifications" from players who are not interested in governance.

Finally, since there is no way to show one's opposition to a pre-proposal, it will probably reduce the discussion. People will know it will be sent to official vote anyways (5% is not so high) and they can just skip the pre-proposal and directly vote during the official proposal period. It may have a serious impact as people will have to make a choice with less quality feedback (for or against).

👍 michealb, khan.dayyanz, gamesworld, quetz

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@michealb · May 12 '23 (edited)

 >I know a number of players that just cast their votes to get rid of the notification window, 

Hopefully this could be  fixed. i.e a vote for For/Against and Pass?

Notification pop up has annoyed the fk out of me before. Think i voted no just to shut it up! 🤣

Edit: Another thing that may be of use, is if not voting For/Against you have to pick an option from a list of why not. ie 1) don't understand it. 2) not interested 3) above my pay grade etc

👍 emeraldtiger

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@emeraldtiger · May 10 '23

$0.08

Yes, that could be a good idea to introduce a "pass" choice for proposals!

It opens a big debate about how to account for these "pass" votes though 😅 Should we consider that they are fine with either outcome and do not count their voice to approve or reject a proposal, or should we count them in ?

In the first case, the Pass vote will simply become a "do not remind me" button, and in the second it will become basically a 2nd "No" button. 

Not an easy thing to do in the end, but it could more accurately represents the opinion of the whole community toward a given proposal. 

The idea of the questionnaire is nice as well, but I think the idea of pre-proposals serve the same purpose, it gives time for people to say if they are interested or not. Except that we never thought about asking who did not care 😆

👍 michealb

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@konaqua · May 21 '23

Based on your argument, I think the pass button should only be a do not remind me thing and should not count vote towards anywhere.

I mean, if you disagree, then vote for no. You don't need to vote for pass.

👍 oaaguy, emeraldtiger

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@oaaguy · May 11 '23

$0.09

I think having a "comment" field could provide useful info for any vote: whether yes, no, or pass. That way of something fails, the proposer could see the reasons people voted against

👍 michealb

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@konaqua · May 21 '23

Second this but the comment section should be and cannot be viewed by other people other than the Splinterlands devs and the main proposer.

The reason for this is to avoid harassment and influencing other people's votes. There is a link to the main proposer's hive post and people can voice out their opinions there. The comment section for the votes is more like anonymous.

I apologize if I cannot express myself properly. It is 1:40am now.

TLDR, I don't want the possible comment section to be another reddit/twitter/youtube comment section. I don't think influencing other people's opinion is good right before they vote.

👍 oaaguy

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1 reply

@sagemaya · May 17 '23

$0.08

That above my paygrade had me.. 🤣.

I for one were kinda annoyed in the pop up notif regarding the proposal, I think its better that the option regarding the notif is that the excerpts or at least the title of the proposal is shown so that players can at least have some knowledge regarding the proposal up for vote, and there should be a choice outright to decline or at least put the notification to end like (dont remind for today). That way, those who are against (depending on an obvious title) will be able to vote against outright, and for those who are curious what the proposal is about can check based also on the excerpts or title of the proposal, or at least put a set of time CD for the notification to pop up again. :D

just my small cents though..

👍 michealb, gamesworld

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