RE: Self-voting user list since HF19 by daudimitch

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statistics · @daudimitch · Jul 23 '17

Most ridiculous post I have come across, some of the folks are actively upvoting other accounts... they made the investment, they deserve to earn the reward... folks need to stop looking at what others are earning...

👍 katsics, eternalsunshine, varian.wyrnn

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@calamus056 · Jul 23 '17 (edited)

$0.11

Buying SP and then self-voting isn't investing, it's just draining funds from the reward pool that could (should?) be used to reward authors, otherwise STEEM isn't worth anything. Voting on others earns you curation rewards without any negative effects to the platform. The less you vote on others, the more you're hurting your own investment.

This isn't about what people are earning, it's about the way they're "earning" it.

👍 denmarkguy, metafzx

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@daudimitch · Jul 23 '17

Post like these create bad blood, the data is tilted in a negative light, some of these folks also bring a lot of quality content on a daily basis, I am pretty sure you upvote your post as well, they made their investment in SP, don't make post in bad blood like that

👍 varian.wyrnn

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@calamus056 · Jul 23 '17

No i stopped voting on my content, it's not going to change much. If the content is good it will get rewarded eventually anyway.

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@varian.wyrnn · Jul 24 '17

Dude exactly.

👍 varian.wyrnn

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@daudimitch · Jul 23 '17

$0.09

What's wrong with rewarding yourself, I would certainly love to upvote myself 10 if I had the steem power but I don't, so it's 1 or 2 cents, if they value their post at 20 dollars and upvote it, then what's wrong with that. I can tell you I have certainly benefited from the upvotes of quite a few folks on the list, and many others. It's not a spread across the ground wealth thing here, part of your earning depends on your investment. You don't know what folks sacrifice to reach at their SP level, don't trump the "reward pool" card.

👍 barrydutton

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@barrydutton · Jul 24 '17

$0.02

Keep in mind some of us write 150 blogs a  month on here for content and those are all upvoted, I went into that on here too.

Perspective is important along with the engagement we try and create in the community.

👍 daudimitch, alex-icey

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@calamus056 · Jul 23 '17 (edited)

$0.72

Anyone can be a top rewarded author without buying any SP. It's all about loyal followers.

👍 davebrewer, alex-icey

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7 replies

@smooth · Jul 24 '17 (edited)

$1.43

> Buying SP and then self-voting isn't investing, it's just draining funds from the reward pool

No it isn't. The reward pool is fixed in terms of STEEM but not in terms of _value_ (dollars, etc.). STEEM only gets its _value_ from people buying it or holding it. Without people buying it, you can earn all the STEEM you want from the reward pool, but they will be worthless.

Someone who buys SP and then selfvotes is not 'draining' anything and at best can get back a portion of what was put in. It causes no harm at all.

Investors are the ones who underwrite _all_ of the rewards on this platform. If you are not an investor, or are only a smaller investor, you need to focus your efforts on creating inspiring content that makes investors _want to give their money to you_. Whatever _else_ they do or don't do with _their money_ (including self-voting) is not your concern and does not harm you in any way. Nevertheless, you do have a downvote that you can use to disagree with what you think are underserved rewards. I suggest using it.

👍 smooth, randomwhale

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@calamus056 · Jul 24 '17

How can you not see the harm in self-voting? I just don't get it, it's so unbelievably obvious why it's bad. All you have to do is think about what value this platform has if nobody voted on others.

Of course people can do with their money whatever they want, but self-voting just isn't smart (except for content promotion obviously). Your alt account only self-votes 4% and i'll assume your main is similar, so you're a good boy :p

I do have a downvote of a few cents yeah, but i can't do anything against your upvote for example ;)

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@stellabelle · Jul 23 '17

$2.91

extreme selfish behaviour will indeed ruin this platform. Those that have like 98% of the rewards going to themselves is exactly the kind of thing that could make this place irrelevant. Looking at this info actually helps me understand human behavior better. I think @teamsteem is a great example of how one does not need to self-vote, even though he could. I guess I still have a ways to go.

👍 transisto, gmuxx, tommyquest

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@calamus056 · Jul 23 '17

To be fair, he only self-voted 0.84% of the total rewards he assigned. That's almost negligible. 

As you said we need to focus on the massive abusers for now, starting at people that self-vote more than 50% of the rewards they assign.

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@command-center · Jul 28 '17

@teamsteem used to not vote for posts because they were not paid high enough for curation.  Be careful who you are praising, @stellabelle.

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@varian.wyrnn · Jul 24 '17

You concisely said what I have been preaching. Word up.

👍 daudimitch

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@daudimitch · Jul 24 '17

Some of these folks, hate what they are not getting... for me, I am happy to see folks earning and expressing themselves, we finally have something that shares the pie... I am more focus on trying to get followers that would actively vote on my content and get the level of making a decent earning... I hope he see's both side, the platform code always finds a balance

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