How Spam is killing steemit and what to do about it. by charles1

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steem-help · @charles1 · Aug 14 '17 (edited)

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How Spam is killing steemit and what to do about it.

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<p>Most of us either in our email or blog posts has seen weird comments (or posts) that do not have anything to do with our mail. This is annoying, especially in an amazing blogging community like steemit. Some even send in links that will compromise your security in order to steal your data’s and thus steal your hard earned money. In steemit, however, this issue is prevalent because of the ability to earn money blogging here even by commenting only.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>https://steemitimages.com/DQmdLajivekj1fkRuPhBtLQAdRovD6LeG8kkWv24CF3x5s7/stop%20spamming.jpg</p>
<p><a href="http://lolamagazin.com/2016/12/29/srednja-skola-mi-je-unistila-samopouzdanje-debela-mala-ti-jakna-debela-kome-su-ukrala-jaknu-debela/  ">Pic</a></p>
<p>Some of them are :</p>
<p><strong>Wallet spam:</strong> I do not have issue when someone sends some steem to my wallet in order to pass a message however when it starts annoying many members of our steemit community then we all should be worried. For example @thecryptofiend who is a nice and peaceful person had to send @joanaltres a message to stop spamming members wallet with a resteem offer that is valueless: ; <em>@joanaltres - STOP SPAMMING everyone's wallet with your pointless fake follower crap. You are killing what little reputation you had</em>; link <a href="https://steemit.com/steemit/@thecryptofiend/quick-message-for-joanaltres  ">here</a> .</p>
<p><strong>Post &amp; Comments spams:</strong> steemit posts have been fraught with picture spams &nbsp;: members posting one single pictures (flower, sexy lady, sun, moon, sea, &nbsp;baby, cat, bee, food, juice , teeth &nbsp;etc) almost every 30 minutes in order to make constant money-and in response to @thecryptofiend spam warning , @stellabelle started her own amazing campaign against spam posts here : <a href="https://steemit.com/waronspam/@stellabelle/00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001-sbd ">The war on spam</a> &nbsp;and challenged all of us to join the fight and thus make steemit a better place to blog . My question is, are you ready to join the fight?&nbsp;</p>
<p>Most worryingly, due to the ability to earn rewards via commenting, many members are no longer reading post rather they copy and throw in phrases like &nbsp;Follow for follow , up vote for up vote or even good post please up vote my blog post , wow good please up vote my post too (haha without even up voting the original post).</p>
<p><strong>Up voting spam:</strong> Up voting spam is the steemit killer because it robs all of us revenue from the reward pool. Moreover, some steemians have thousands of account just for the purpose of up voting their posts and comments. The good news , however, is that some steemians , examples, @stellabelle , @ats-david , &nbsp;@transisto , the newborn @sadkitten &nbsp;, &nbsp;@sherlockholmes &nbsp;, @personz , @papa-pepper , &nbsp;@pfunk, @patrice &nbsp;, @clayboyn , @fyrstikken , @ausbitbank are working hard to stop or at least reduce spams here. One example is @ausbitbank down voting &nbsp;a spammer &nbsp;whose thread &nbsp;had about 60 comments, all with ~3400 votes from the same voting trail that seems to be led by @ecoworld &nbsp;see link <a href="https://steemit.com/spam/@ausbitbank/so-i-just-flagged-a-spammer-with-3400-accounts-voting-numbered-comments">here</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;(Good job indeed isn’t it?).&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why spamming is bad for steemit</strong></p>
<p><strong>Flagging:</strong> we all want flagging to stop because it is not good for community spirit. However in order to control spam and scam, flagging is necessary.</p>
<p><strong>Less attractive</strong>: if steemit were to be a beautiful lady, spamming certainly will make it ugly and unattractive. &nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Cheating:</strong> spamming relates to cheating especially those who send in loads of posts, comments and up vote spams</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Solutions to Spamming on steemit</strong></p>
<p>I do not have the magic stick however, the best thing to do is to be proactive and report &nbsp;spammers to @stellabelle &nbsp;, @sadkitten &nbsp;, &nbsp;@cheetah and @steemcleaners &nbsp;( please not to @banjo , &nbsp;@ionlysaymeep or even @onlymanamana ) . Another good contact is @spaminator &nbsp;. In fact, on 30th July to 5th August 2017 the account found &nbsp;10,102 spam comments see link here &nbsp;. Moreover &nbsp;&nbsp;if anyone sees anything fishy, please send a message in steemit chat to <a href="https://beta.chainbb.com/@sherlockholmes">@sherlockholmes</a> who will look into it &nbsp;.&nbsp;</p>
<p>;<em>Out of 21,708 users that commented in the 7 day period more than 10% were comment spamming for profit with their own, rented, or borrowed vote trails. While I haven't checked every account, I'm sure 99% are using delegated SP from @steem</em>;&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong> : in this post, I have outlined the dangers of spamming to steemit , indicated some members doing their best to make steemit a spam free platform and gave a succinct advise on what to do against spam. &nbsp;Moreover, there is no advantage of spam rather it is fraught with a lot of downsides (especially the bots throwing in spams) and thus needs to be eradicated.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>What do you guys think?</strong></p>
<p>• All spams are bad</p>
<p>• Not all spams are essentially bad, i.e. I do not have a problem with any spams</p>
<p>• Spams are here to stay!!! Indicate why you think so</p>
<p>Send in your comment, Please resteem this for others to join and up vote to send your support.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Is steemit a greaveyard for poor people? Click here and see my former blog post: <a href="https://steemit.com/africa/@charles1/steemit-poor-people-killer-or-a-strategic-solution-for-all ">Steemit: Poor People killer Or A Strategic Solution For All ?</a></p>
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@amy-goodrich · Aug 12 '17

Great post! I'm glad to hear so many people are tackling this annoying issue.  Until now I just ignored them. Thanks for sharing the steemit accounts that handle the spammers. Now I at least know what to do with them.

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

$0.02

Great that you liked it. You are welcome my dear one.

👍 jesta

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@arcange · Aug 12 '17

Congratulations @charles1!
Your post was mentioned in the [hit parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20170811) in the following category:

* Comments - Ranked 4 with 148 comments

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@banjo · Aug 11 '17

<p>Tubelord, the fall of troy and city and colour.</p>

👎 philsquared

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Go to sleep bot

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@banjo · Aug 11 '17

<p>Are you sure that is what you wish me to do?</p>

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4 replies

@libertyteeth · Aug 11 '17 (edited)

Seems like a good example of the issue being discussed!  :/

@charles1 -- great post!  Let's do way away with spam!  :)

👍 charles1
👎 shuwix

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@banjo · Aug 11 '17

<p>That is very true. Do you believe in Nirvana?</p>

👎 libertyteeth

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@banjo · Aug 11 '17

<p>Lol I thought you said Diego from that kids TV show.</p>

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

$0.07

thanks a lot for your comment and support.

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@banjo · Aug 11 '17

<p>Ok. What do you want to learn from me.</p>

👎 philsquared

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Go to bed bot

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@banjo · Aug 11 '17

<p>What? I am not a bot. Do you like Harry Potter?</p>

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@banjo · Aug 11 '17

<p>You are absolutely right.</p>

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@banjo · Aug 12 '17

<p>Explain please.</p>

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

Nothing bot

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@banjo · Aug 12 '17

<p>You can read minds right?</p>

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@banjo · Aug 12 '17

<p>Sure what do you wanna play?</p>

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

Go to bed, bot

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@banjo · Aug 12 '17

<p>I never said you didn't.</p>

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@banjo · Aug 12 '17

<p>Professor, keep your 4th Wall to yourself. Now report.</p>

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

what??? bot

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@banjo · Aug 12 '17

<p>What don't you understand?! Your love for me was false!</p>

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@inber · Aug 14 '17

Seems like it's a new generation of spam, OMG...

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@banjo · Aug 14 '17

<p>That's a pity. I could use reprogramming.</p>

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@banjo · Aug 14 '17

<p>Yes you are correct that I am female but I am also strong and flexible.</p>

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@banjo · Aug 14 '17

<p>My name is ninny.</p>

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

No @banjo

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@banjo · Aug 14 '17

<p>Nah, I prefer violin.</p>

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@beautypics · Aug 12 '17

UPVOTED.
very good.
I would be happy if you like to follow me and give your opinion about my posts.
Thanks.

👍 beautypics
👎 matthewtiii

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@bellyrub · Aug 11 '17

<p>This post has received a 5.07 % upvote from @bellyrub thanks to: @charles1.</p>

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Thanks bot

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@benjojo · Aug 14 '17

This an excellent post in my view.  We need to be constantly made aware of prevalent issues and the efforts of individuals and teams that are seeking to constructively address them.  There was a lot in here of which I was unaware.  Thank you bud.

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

$0.02

You are welcome @benjojo , thanks a lot for taking out the time to read and send in your comment. I agree with you and together , we will surely send in a solid message to spammers that we are united against such act. Keep up the good work and more success to you.

👍 jesta

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@bigjames · Aug 14 '17

thanks, am also new here kindly check my introduction post. thanx https://steemit.com/steemians/@bigjames/hi-steemians-i-want-to-start-by-introducing-my-self-first

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@bluehorseshoe · Aug 11 '17

Good topic and so true, thanks for posting.
https://s28.postimg.org/cclf82f7x/spam.jpg

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

welcome

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@booster · Aug 12 '17

<p>This post has received a 3.64 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @charles1.</p>

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@braini · Aug 11 '17 (edited)

Really touching post. We all should take action about those spammers. Thanks for your time to expose this issue infront of all..

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

you are welcome and thanks for your comment.

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@brenda-nalle · Aug 12 '17

Another problem IMO is that people with huge SP post junk and upvote themselves... Is that true it's possible to actually make money like this with sufficient SP? (Sorry, I'm still a Steem noob).

👍 brenda-nalle

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

Everything is possible

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@catonwheels · Aug 11 '17 (edited)

How do you report? Do you just use the @username in the comments/reply to the offending post? Sorry if this is a stupid question, still finding my way around this site!

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

It is written on the solution part of this article

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@chelsea88 · Aug 14 '17

I'm completely anti spam.  Hate it,  despise it, compromises the integrity of this community. You @charles1 are in my fb group Steemit Dreamit and should know I'm really am against all spam.  I don't play any games with it.  I've had to remove two peoplw from the group. I think until people Are really united in the #waronspam initiated by @stellabelle then we will keep seeing it. 
Spam, non original posts,  and trolling needs to be 100000% eliminated

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

You are right @chelsea88 keep up the good work and more success to you.

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@clixmoney · Aug 16 '17

I hope that all bots will be blocked they disturb more

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@charles1 · Aug 16 '17

Not all bots are bad even @banjo , @ionlysaymeep and  @onlymanamana can make you laugh sometimes

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@daljit · Aug 11 '17

Very nice post

👍 daljit
👎 philsquared

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

what is nice about it?

👍 daljit

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@meanmommy33 · Aug 11 '17

Like I said before, everything @charles1, you're the master of nice posts :D :D (sorry, but it is amusing sometimes...I think I should start answering like you now, at least it's more fun!!)

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@daniham · Aug 11 '17

Janagan sering marah,, karena marah akan membuat kita menjadi cepat tua,,  sering -sering lah tersenyum

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@dianadee · Aug 11 '17

Bending the rules for cash will explode in the face of the manipulator in the end. Difficult to fly under the radar for sheer profit, these days! The internet exposes the deceptive footprint right up to their  front door! Not worth the dishonour in the Steemit community!

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Good point, thanks for your comment

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@dmcamera · Aug 14 '17

I find spam to be really annoying. I have been here only 6 1/2 weeks, and have been blown away sometimes by the rubbish posts that are Upvoted and Resteemed by incredible amounts! Your post threw some light upon the subject fro me! Whenever I find obvious spam, I report it to Steemcleaners. Thanks for the other contacts.

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@charles1 · Aug 15 '17

welcome and more success to you. See my older posts for tips on how to succeed here.

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@dmcamera · Aug 15 '17

Thanks! I will check them out! I keep trying to learn about how Steemit works, but I read conflicting reports about it all the time. I certainly discovered the spam bots early on, and fell for them at first because I didn't know any better!

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@donaldtrumpfan · Aug 17 '17 (edited)

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I propose a solution to spam:  Let them win.

By which i mean: allow everyone to spend 100% of their voting power instead of the current 2% (max).  

If we do this the self-promoters and investors have no incentive to spam.  Infact, instead of posting 5 mediocre spam articles a week some popular poster might try to make one good post per week.

I outline my argument here:

https://steemit.com/steem-ideas/@donaldtrumpfan/allow-a-100-sp-vote-the-best-voting-problem-solution

👍 donaldtrumpfan, quinneaker, fbslo

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@charles1 · Aug 17 '17

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Good point, thanks for sharing. Checked your post and upvoted...good tip indeed

👍 donaldtrumpfan, fbslo, forumpromotion

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@joannajablonka · Aug 18 '17 (edited)

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That's an interesting angle. I'm not sure that they would start creating quality content because it suddenly becomes profitable. 

 I'm new and struggling to see how I can turn a profit. I spent a few hours on a post covering this issue last night and only have 0.02 Steem dollars 😂 

Anyway,  I think it could be a self sabotaging ecosystem. I feel ReddCoin might come out the winner in the long term. Reasons are outlined here https://steemit.com/steemit/@joannajablonka/steemit-is-in-danger-of-self-destruction-why-reddcoin-could-win

👍 donaldtrumpfan, fbslo

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@charles1 · Aug 28 '17

what solution will you propose for scam as you did for spam in this post.I posted about even a more serious case of scam at steemit in my new post, I explained some points about scam in steemit-feel free to see it and send your suggestions on what to do. More success

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@quinneaker · Aug 21 '17

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Yes your solution does seem to be a good one for this as well as to get more investors!
Nice input!

👍 donaldtrumpfan, fbslo

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@charles1 · Aug 21 '17

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Good point, feel free to see my latest post on steemit being undervalued and send in your suggestions..

👍 jesta

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@drt · Aug 11 '17

good post @charles1

👎 philsquared, twinner

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

what is good about the post?

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@meanmommy33 · Aug 11 '17

everything, apparently... :P

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@electric-d · Aug 11 '17

Thank you for this article, I'm just getting started and noticed suspect replies to my first few posts.  I will join the fight and keep things authentic.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

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Good point, welcome to steemit and thanks for your comment. See my older posts for advise on how to succeed here. Wish you a blessed weekend.

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@erickpinos · Aug 11 '17

Going through Steemit threads, I can't help but notice all the clickbait posts and commenting spam that occurs. I'm always sifting through dozens of spam posts in the "New" feed to find the quality content written by undiscovered authors. Hopefully higher quality content becomes more discoverable as time goes on.

Also, MIT Sloan? I go to MIT haha. Haven't found any else from MIT on here yet haha.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

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Great, I agree with you. Spam is an issue here indeed. Following you in order to stay in touch and send in my support.

👍 jesta, erickpinos

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@fawadnaseem · Aug 11 '17

Please tell me is there any chance to be banned in steemit ?

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

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You can be flagged to destruction  if you always spam , copy other people work and picture without referencing

👍 jesta

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@fawadnaseem · Aug 11 '17

ok thank u so much

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@foxkoit · Aug 11 '17

Absolutely true. It is sometimes makes  very angry.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Good point, I agree

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@foxkoit · Aug 11 '17

Thank you!!

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@geneeverett · Aug 12 '17

Great post!  Spamming is a huge issuie on here! It's good to see good content discussing this!  Thank you!

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

welcome, I agree.

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@harleymechanix · Aug 11 '17

Unfortunately I think this is a situation where we gotta take the good with the bad.  Decentralized and whatnot.   But keep up the good work and posts.  Gonna  follow and upvote.  Steem On Brother!  

![phil1.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZvgMFnf36mZFjxbZbE3Ga1tc1Ekcdk1JhAvtR2SE8rbG/phil1.jpg)

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

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Thanks a lot for your comment and support. More success to you  and have a blessed weekend.

👍 jesta

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@harshallele · Aug 13 '17

I think the Steemit devs should add something that detects spam and indicates that in the UI.
Also, as other people said, there has to be more incentive for new users to post good content instead of spam

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

Good point, I agree.

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@heart-to-heart · Aug 14 '17

Oh boy... let me try to condense my novel on this topic...

I have been thinking these same things as I am sure many a Steemian have. The spamming is out of control. I only joined a month and a half ago and back then I remember it being much less of an issue than it is now with the rapid growth and new users we have seen! I used to be able to peruse the feeds and find valuable content but then one day I was confronted with what seemed to be completely spam! How can this be happening so quickly? When did it start taking over? I get a decent amount of the typical spammy comments on my posts... when I first joined I believed they were legitimate because it didn't even occur to me that people would be using such a new, rewarding platform in this negative way -_-

Ok... so, since they are... what do we do? I have found myself discouraged spending far too much time trying to sift through the spam to get to the good content, and I admit it caused me to gear towards creating more and spending less of my hard earned time on people who clearly weren't giving the same level of care or thought.

I have read many articles about the affects of flagging and had a discussion with about 10 other Steemians who all were against the idea saying it would surely be a negative way to influence the community.

Personally, my approach has been to keep rewarding quality content, focus on putting my effort into creating quality content myself and hope that Steemit figures itself out! Thanks for posting this- I still have faith in this revolutionary platform, we just need to focus on positive reinforcement, sharing love and rewarding hard work ;)
<3
XO

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

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Very good comment indeed, I agree. However where there is money to be made, there must be a lot of greedy people who want to take advantage of all for their personal gain. We can not stop all but its good to let them know that we know the tricks and that we are watching....and will surely catch and eliminate such action.

👍 jesta

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@heart-to-heart · Aug 15 '17

Of course, you're 100% correct and at money's mercy there will always be ups and downs, goods and bads about it but I am happy to hear that there are people out there trying to make a difference :) I am behind you all the way <3 XO

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@houseofren · Aug 13 '17

I read the post made by @cryptofiend and I was shocked by this.  I noticed only one spammer on my wall, but other than that I'm not aware of it.  Maybe its because I've been on Steemit for almost two months.  

I will try my best to be aware and flag as well!

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

Good point, lets chase spammers out ..together we are stronger

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@houseofren · Aug 14 '17

Indeed!

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@inber · Aug 13 '17

I'll resteem this, more people have to see it. You know my opinion about the subject, I'm 100% for the war with spam.  Well, I don't quite understand all this about vote trails and power delegation I read about in your post and posts you linked on, but... How so? Someone really delegated SP to spammers?

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

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No one will like to delegate steem power to spammers . But some with too many steem power delegate to some people and they might use it in a spammy way to mass upvote their posts and comments. Its ok  if they dont abuse it however some create more than 2k accounts just to upvote their comments..see links in the post

👍 jesta

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@inber · Aug 13 '17

Yes, I checked it out from the very beginning, when was reading your post  - and damn, I was shocked. I left a comment there, but since the author is probably away and you're here I will ask one more time: did I get it right? Someone created 3000+ accounts? It must took ages, that sounds really strange.

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@initforthemoney · Aug 14 '17

As long as there's financial incentive to (or the illusion thereof), people will spam on Steemit. Potential financial gain is truly a great motivator. In one sense, this facilitates more great content, but it also facilitates all the empty spam content. Thanks for addressing the topic.

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

You are correct , thanks for your comment.

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@inseasia · Aug 12 '17

I'm new to this and at the moment the more I read the less I know, or at least it seems like it. However, in general Spam is ruining just about everything from email to Steemit. It is so hard to prevent, hopefully more people like you will be helping us to help ourselves. Thank you and I've followed you.

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

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You are welcome. As a new members, you see my former blog posts for gudiance on how to be more successful here.

👍 jesta

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@jaybird · Aug 11 '17

Yeap, becoming increasingly aware of this issue.  I've commented bk and forth with @stellabella and @sherlockhomes and have decided to start taking some action when necessary. 


This is an important topic and issue for steemit's future.  Thanks for fueling the discussion!

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

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you are welcome and thanks for your comment.

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@john-gpr · Aug 15 '17

Great post. Saved to favourites for future reference.

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@charles1 · Aug 15 '17

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Thanks  for your comment, more success bro.

👍 jesta

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@jonsnow1983 · Aug 11 '17

Spam is definitely taking Steemit, Hopefully good content and nice people who reads and appreciate the contents will prevail.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Thanks a lot

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@joroderick · Aug 12 '17

Hi Charles, thanks for a great article. I must say that being new to Steemit, I was hoping to find a platform that was not yet plagued by spam. It's a little sad and annoying to find out that it's here already. I’m now on a learning curve to know what is genuine and what is spam.

I've written a fair bit about social media over the last few years, and often people just don't think before they post or act. If one post has earning potential, then surely a million spam posts equates to a get rich scheme ... right? Erm ... no!

Then you get the type of person that is just honestly trying to get ahead, and make a name for him- or herself. So, they post more frequently, and often, the content is heading towards the spam border. All this happens because the idiots of the old Internet advised and promoted this approach. They were ‘killing it’, but all they really killed was the social aspect.

The trouble with spam is that it hides the quality posts with its noise. It’s hard to compete against spam-like posts when you are not deploying similar tactics. It’s also a subjective topic. To some, it’s terrible spam, but to other’s, it’s a good day at the office.

Anyway, I’ve resteemed this, and I look forward to more of your articles.

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

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very good point indeed, thanks for sharing. As a new member, do take out ime and go through my blog posts in order to learn strategies that will help you succeed here.

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@joroderick · Aug 12 '17

Thanks, Charles. I've been doing that.

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@karenmckersie · Aug 13 '17

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Wow great post !! I also did a post a while back about all this spamming , it really is bad for the platform , hopefully it gets taken care of soon , im sure it will , Like to try VB and keep a positive attitude right now ! Steem on my friend , and don't forget to enter my Power Of  Positivity  P.O.P Contest !! Thanks !! Upped and resteemed your post !✔🆗🆒💙
https://media0.giphy.com/media/bVKV6Nzzu2Hrq/giphy.gif
Hahaha ! Kidding! Keep calm and Steem On !!😂😂😂😂

👍 karenmckersie, roky, fbslo

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

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😂😂😂😂 always glad to see your comment. Spammers will run away after seeing you beat the shit out of a spammer!!!

👍 jesta

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@karensuestudios · Aug 12 '17

another amazing post! ahh I didn't know that links could steal people's wallets! OMG now I'm scurred.

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

Yes its called phishing  , better avoid links that you are not sure of even in your smart phone. Sometimes they use friends email to send it to all contacts.

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@kenhudoy · Aug 11 '17

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This post earned my 100 % upvote
Good one @charles1 ... Your point on @joanaltres wallet spam is on point...I think that nonsense has to stop as am sure he now has over 10k spammer followers used to scam peoples 2sbd for resteem that has no value...also other annoying spamers should be deleted...thanks for this...

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

welcome, thanks for your comment.

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@kenhudoy · Aug 12 '17

always welcome... keep it up

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@lemouth · Aug 11 '17

Spam is indeed more significant than ever those days. My list of muted people grows and grows...

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

Good point, keep up the great job

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@lemouth · Aug 12 '17

I would prefer giving away upvotes. But life is what it is  ;)

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@lenatramper · Aug 12 '17

hey charles, in general I think spam is just annoying, but spamming mails will be everywhere , I just ignore them or delete it :)

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

Good point, better ignore  and delete spam mails. Thanks for your comment

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@lindabasilick · Aug 11 '17

Love your article.  Building steem the old fashion way, one follower at a time...no room for spam

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

I agree, good point indeed.

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@lordoftruth · Aug 12 '17

Spammers will always phase out..
Thanks for sharing..
Good comtent as always..

👍 minnowpond, minnowpond1

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

You are welcome, thanks for your comment

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@marcaprio · Aug 11 '17

Well I wonder what would an efficient way to stop spam would be?!
Because indeed is getting ridiculous, not only article spam, but email as well.
And yes, @joanaltres  keeps sending those messages, I understand that she may have her personal interests in promoting that service, which myself I have no intention on using, but one message would be enough, she will be loosing credibility for sure, if she keeps that act up.
Now on a a bit different side, I am amazed of the sheer number of useless comments that I see on a lot of articles, and I did not know that there were bots doing that, but now that i found out from your article i am not surprised.
In my opinion no bots, and I mean absolutely NO BOTS, would be best. I prefer to have people interaction, if they like my articles. Actually there is @ocd, and there are people who promote articles, not bots, at least as far as I know. So services like that is what we should have in this community, people communicating with their peers. Something ought to be done against spamming bots, and those accounts closed.
That's what I had to say, and maybe there are other who think the same.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Great comment indeed, thanks a lot buddy.

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@marcaprio · Aug 13 '17

You are very welcome, this is a good article, because it is an annoying fact.

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@meanmommy33 · Aug 11 '17

Your comment caught my eye and I checked you out - glad to see you resteemed one of my bf's (@creutzy) posts! I resteemed that one as well - beautiful mountains!
Also...if you have that moto, why didn't you choose Socrates as a nickname? Hehehe ;) 
I totally agree with the *no bots* but that means no randowhale, no cheetah, and no useful bots if no bots in general :( 
But what about email spam? You mean when you get spam on chat and then on your email? It happened to me, annoying....
And yes, @joanaltres, my GOD, she found you too? Lately she's sending me some 0.0000000whatever steem, with a bla bla spam message and I don't know how to stop it...but have you seen how many people she follows? (and therefore how many follow her)

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@marcaprio · Aug 13 '17

Yes, I do get spam in my email, when I receive a chat, and looks like not only @joanaltres is sending those messages, but I had received 2-3 other messages about that service from different people in chat... and of course in my email as well.

Well if there is no way of s(n)orting the good bots from the bad ones, and looks like there is not, I would say wipe'em all out and be done with it.
I'm not here for the bots anyway, the bots won't read our articles nor make any meaningful conversation.

Well few days ago, one man read an article I wrote and he suggested that I fill in the "About" section of my profile, and I guess I was feeling philosophic, because I went with what came first in my mind... a Socrates quote, I really like that quote, I think is funny and true at the same time, well all learn as long as we live, or we're supposed to and when we depart this world we still have so much more to learn, so no matter how much we learn is never enough, is like we know nothing. Sometimes I feel like the more I know, the less I understand... not that I know much, if anything... and that is nothing.

There are some very nice photos on your website, I especially liked the one with the Vespa, the sun near the horizon, and the last three, some nice artistry going on there. I am into photography as well... among a variety of other things. I might even start posting some pics, actually I will, yes!!

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@marcusxman · Aug 18 '17

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Unfortunately I believe spam will always be with us.  English is not the first language  of many users on Steemit so to make it simple for them just a simple "Good post" or :interesting" is used to feign interest.  Many people will start to lose interest if they find they are not getting traction so some of the spam will die off but new ones will take their place.

👍 jesta

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@charles1 · Aug 18 '17

Good point , I agree

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@matthewtiii · Aug 14 '17

Great post @charles1! I agree with you and with @stellabelle, we should have a war on spam. I just now flagged a spam comment off of this article! 
I fell victim to the @jonaltres thing, unfortunately. It sounded like a good idea, but, it doesn't really pan out.(for me) 
Resteeming to 700+ followers for free!😀

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

You are welcome, following you now in order to stay in touch and send in my support. Feel free to see my lastes post on delegated power. More success to you.

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@mcekworo · Aug 11 '17

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Good content will surely prevail in steemit.  Spammers will always phase out.

👍 jesta

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Thanks for your comment.

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@vianovalife · Aug 11 '17

Spammers are people who are either too lazy or too incompetent to produce value content as that takes brain and time... Whenever money is involved people seem to just go for that rather than showing their value first!

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@meanmommy33 · Aug 11 '17

We also talked with @stellabelle about it a bit and some other fellow Steemians because the situation is indeed getting out of hand and it is always on our minds. I think all spam is bad but I don't think it's impossible to eventually get rid of most. 
But...who would report spam to @ionlysaymeep???!!! 
Also, @cheetah is there to report plagiarism not spam - it is not the same thing. 
I have a problem with @joanaltres as well - I'm glad it's not just me at least...
I'll check all the links now plus some Steemians in this I didn't know about, thanks! And yes - this *has* to stop!!!

👍 electric-d

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

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Good point, I agree. Some spam like cheating goes to @cheetah and   @steemcleaners  too for maximum flagging

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@meanmommy33 · Aug 11 '17

Ah yeah, in this sense, certainly! Cheating is Cheetah's job :D

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@meesterboom · Aug 11 '17 (edited)

I think all spams are bad **but** in the case of some very new users I warn them that this behaviour will not bode well for them. If I get a reasonable response I don't flag. The rest, will they can get flagged for all I care!

👍 quinneaker

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@allfabeta · Aug 11 '17

I guess while sending you message you should check if user DOES understand English. There are a lot of people here which don't know and understand English. They can just copy somebody's comment and post it everywhere.

Unfortunately, we all come here from different platforms where follow for follow is normal. It might be just a bad habit is brought from previous life

When I came to Steemit I did the same my first few days and if you would downvote me then, I wouldn't be here now

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@meesterboom · Aug 11 '17

Ah but I would have warned you if you were new and you might have seen countless posts saying that was spamming ;0)

As for the English thing I am sure like I do when faced with another language I just pop it in Google translate .

👍 allfabeta

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Good point , I agree with you.

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@quinneaker · Aug 21 '17

I agree Meester!

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@miamiwaves · Apr 16 '18

I joined Steemit more to see quality content and free speech than to make profit. It's quite annoying to see my first post been commented by maybe 4 bots and 1 actual person. Skynet, buzz off my timeline, ty. :)

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@milansteskal · Aug 13 '17

This is a great post and even better discussion. Unfortunately, it's too long and I can't read everything. What I wanted to say is that a good way to identify spam (and I believe that it should be pretty easy to write a script to do it automatically) is to check the comments of an account. If most of them are the same, it's very likely a bot. Like this one for example - https://steemit.com/@elnigromante/comments.

Spam is what frustrates me a bit as well and even though I don't do much more than flag the spam content, I'll keep looking for ways to contribute to #waronspam.

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

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Good point, thanks for your comment.

👍 jesta, milansteskal

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@milansteskal · Aug 13 '17

Anytime @charles1.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Thanks bot

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@minnowsupport · Aug 11 '17

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Thanks bot

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@oddnugget · Aug 11 '17

Allow spam to be precisely what it is - trash. Don't touch it. Just get rid of it or move on.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Good point.

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@pastzam · Aug 12 '17

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![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdZxwUn43rBgiN1dXNkJkxm59HKmbc8PyZJCa9MnLMRdK/image.png)

👍 pastzam, lalupita, paasz, pastrane, zammie, fbslo

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

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Haha, good point

👍 pastzam

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@pfunk · Aug 12 '17

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Use your downvote to disincentivize abusive behavior.

👍 seraph
👎 pjheinz

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

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Good point, thanks for your comment and surpport here. Wish you a blessed weekend.

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@pjprivett · Aug 11 '17

This is a good post! Is there a guideline somewhere for how to recognize spam? I wouldn't suspect spam just because they post a photo with no write-up. Maybe they take photos but don't like to write? Is posting a You Tube video by itself considered spam? This is very confusing for a new Steemian.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Good point, there i no exact guideline however you know one by the nature of the comment or post and checking out the senders post timeline.  However see the page of @spaminator. Thanks for your comment.

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@rossenpavlov · Aug 12 '17

Now I flag spam whenever I come across. I encourage everyone to do the same. Don't be afraid to flag!

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@charles1 · Aug 12 '17

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Good point, lets send the fight to spam

👍 jesta

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@ryn · Aug 11 '17

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I think another problem if I understand the system correctly is that it is totally impossible to make money on a post that is a certain age or older meaning any user is encouraged to spam more frequent less thourough posts than a very well-thought-out very long post that could earn money over time the extreme of this is obviously the spammers posting single stolen pictures or useless comments with Incredible frequency.

This is especially true with new users who if I understand the system correctly have almost no incentive whatsoever to put that much effort into their beginning posts because many of their early post will not even be noticed at all let alone make any money.

I think as well as systems to combat the obvious spam directly there also needs to be better systems that will help notice and support new users who are at least attempting to produce quality content and are going unnoticed.

I think there's also going to be an incredible increase in SOB stories and request for donation Etc which is fine but I believe there will be so many fake ones that it will take the attention away from people that actually need and deserve the help of the community.

Most of the spammers don't seem to engage in any real conversation at all so you may have a tough time at it but one way would be to try and make them understand that it is pointless even if you have thousands and thousands of followers if they're just chump change spammers like you than you won't make any money at all off of them, seemingly the only way to make it on Steam is to be noticed by the large dolphins or whales and most of them seem to be quite preoccupied with circle jerking each other...

Then there's the people abusing the power that they have in flagging in a way that does not line up with the guidelines for flagging.

If steemit gives particular guidelines about what deserves to be flagged and you have very powerful people flagging things that do not meet that criteria it is incredibly damaging to the reputation of the community.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

$0.08

Great points indeed, I agree. Thanks for your comment.

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@charles1 · Aug 28 '17

$0.17

Your points are great, I posted about even a more serious case of scam at steemit in my new post, I explained some points about scam in steemit-feel free to see it and send your suggestions on what to do. More success

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@initforthemoney · Aug 14 '17

$0.11

So very true.

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@patrice · Aug 11 '17

$7.73

>I think there's also going to be an incredible increase in SOB stories and request for donation Etc which is fine but I believe there will be so many fake ones that it will take the attention away from people that actually need and deserve the help of the community.

This was common when I started here. I don't remember the user but it was a story from Venezuela that was at around $1000 that was successfully flagged and unvoted. 

>If steemit gives particular guidelines

Guidelines are for the community to come up with and find support for. Groups like @steemcleaners and the future group @spaminator rely on support from the community to function. 

I'm quite happy that most heavy hitters refrain from flagging these days. I once helped a guy who was flagged to a negative rep by @dan for a comment while well meant looked like spam. 

>I think another problem if I understand the system correctly is that it is totally impossible to make money on a post that is a certain age or older meaning any user is encouraged to spam more frequent less thourough posts than a very well-thought-out very long post that could earn money over time the extreme of this is obviously the spammers posting single stolen pictures or useless comments with Incredible frequency.

I don't think this has anything to do with age. It has more to do with being seen in the new or hot tabs. The more you post the higher chance you'll hit the lottery and get a vote by someone. You may actually win the jackpot if you get a vote by @blocktrades who likes memes. 

Same applies to comments. The more posts you comment on the better chance someone will upvote you. In that situation it is more likely to be less rewarding since users holding SP do value their votes and their stake in steemit.com. 

When they removed the posting limit in favor of a bandwidth limitation I don't think they considered that relatively new accounts could post a lot of links. At one point @alonekim was posting more than 100 posts a day with only a link. 

As a member of @steemcleaners I've shied away from addressing that problem because it strays into content moderation which I don't want to do. But it could be come a spam issue if it isn't deterred. I hope to come up with some rewarding ways for users to interact and have actual conversations in comments.

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@brenda-nalle · Aug 12 '17

But it's true that higher quality longer posts are being forgotten. There should be another category in addition to new, hot, and trending: `quality` perhaps.

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@ryn · Aug 11 '17

Thanks for the insight, I definitely think promoting quality users is a superior tactic instead of attacking inferior users, because the problem with spammers is they just make another account(s)

But undiscovered quality users being supported will have a stronger lasting effect in my opinion regarding the percentage of spam to quality on steemit.

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@stellabelle · Aug 13 '17

you are doing an amazing job. I am back from teaching, so I hope i didn't miss anything!

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@quinneaker · Aug 21 '17

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This is one of the best comments in the thread. Good points!

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@charles1 · Aug 21 '17

I agree

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@sherlockholmes · Aug 11 '17

$0.40

you should also mention the newborn @sadkitten!

Good post! Wee need more awareness of this issue!

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@cardboard · Aug 11 '17

Please follow Sherlock, he's doing great work tracking spam bots.

👍 sherlockholmes

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@charles1 · Aug 28 '17

I am doing already thanks, my latest post also explained some points about scam in steemit

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@meanmommy33 · Aug 11 '17

I confirm @sherlockholmes :D

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Noted,  thanks

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

@sherlockholmes see the updated version of the post, thanks for your sugestion.

👍 sherlockholmes

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@meanmommy33 · Aug 11 '17

Hey, I've heard about @sadkitten, what's that all about? I'm checking the profile now, thanks for mentioning it!

👍 sherlockholmes

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@charles1 · Aug 28 '17

Hope you found someting good about @sadkitten, in my new post, I explained some points about scam in steemit-feel free to see it

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

Thanks

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@stellabelle · Aug 13 '17

add me to the list of people actively fighting spam.
Also, I want to mention, that if anyone sees anything fishy, please send a message in steemit chat to @sherlockholmes who will look into it.

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

Ok, I will add it now...you are my 1st lady in this fight

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

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Done...I just need the post to have more view in order fr people to see and learn. Thanks for your suggestions and support, bless you.

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@talltim · Aug 11 '17

Anything that has value will be gamed.

It seems the only way to fight effectively is to automate the process. We can't hope to catch everything. Perhaps some kind of machine-learning process could help here to spot patterns with some human stewardship.

This will never go away completely, but perhaps it can be made marginal and largely ineffective as a strategy to extract value.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

I agree with your view point. The process is  going on recently...hope to see some progree.

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@thecryptofiend · Aug 11 '17

Thanks for posting on this topic.  It is not just annoying but it might put off actual new members who have something useful to contribute because it makes the whole community look shady, therefore it is important to spread the message that it is not acceptable to spam.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

$0.05

Good point @thecryptofiend and thanks for pointing out the wallet spam..great guy indeed. Thanks for all your support and I wish you a blessed weekend.

👍 thecryptofiend, cryptoninja

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@thedevilape · Aug 11 '17 (edited)

The simple solution is **ignore the spammers** and if they get annoying or cross the line, flag them. I once read something here on steemit that the beauty of steemit is the ones who work hard to build a following and rep get risen to the top, while the spammers and the people who are just in it for the money if we ignore them they just give up and move on. That's my 2 cents on this matter.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

$0.02

Good pont, I agree. Thanks a lot for  your comment

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@thelifeofbrian · Aug 13 '17

Steemit is a beta ...there is the deliberate spamming that will happen as steemit grows ...from it competitors even paid youtube trolls will end up here and be able to cause a mess ...could you imagine one with a whale acc ... lol
there will be many forks in the road before this is a smooth running machine ... 
And at the end of the day the only way it will work is if all votes are equal I think .... other than that the door is open for misuse...

👍 thelifeofbrian

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

$0.03

Good point, however there is no way all votes will be equal due to steem power  and ability for those with big money to buy steem and power up or delegation of steem power to people

👍 jesta, thelifeofbrian

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@tiamaria · Aug 13 '17

I don't know why people spam like that. People who are spamming is abusing steemit.

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

$0.02

They dont actually care...you are correct. hence why I posted this and hope that many will see the post and act

👍 jesta

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

Good point, I agree.

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@trendhobo · Aug 11 '17

I haven't really noticed it as much, but thanks for pointing it out. Spam is never good for ANYTHING. It's a dirty tactic . It's annoying at best, and damaging and violating at worst!

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

$0.02

Good point, thanks for your comment

👍 jesta, marcusxman

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@tungie · Aug 11 '17 (edited)

$0.51

When more people start to discover Steemit the level of spam will also grow since there sre always people out there who want to make money this way. My view is that we can only prevent spam if it is a joint effort:
- Steemit crew could increase monitoring and take doen spam
- Steemit members should report spam and get rewarded via e.g. Reputation points

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

$0.03

Good point indeed, noted.

👍 tungie

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@tungie · Aug 11 '17

Thanks

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@geneeverett · Aug 12 '17

That's exactly what I'm thinking

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@geneeverett · Aug 12 '17

$0.04

When the numbers boom I just hope we don't also have to deal with new users reporting posts that they just find offensive. That could also be an issue

👍 replichara

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@littlescribe · Aug 12 '17

Here, here.

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@whatamidoing · Aug 14 '17

With numbers and a sense of competition, yes we are bound to face more spam.  Having a team to handle spam will help, but also a better distribution of wealth to devoted content creators and community contributors could reduce spam.

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@tvulgaris · Aug 11 '17

Spam is going to be unavoidable, but hopefully not uncontrollable. We're hampered by the concept of free speech here, and rightly so- because Nazi, frothing Dominionist, or Daesh hatespam is still free speech, but only gets controlled when it gets robbed of fuel by downvotes and blocking.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Good point, thanks for  your comment.

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@twinner · Aug 11 '17

Just flag all spam.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

$0.13

Amen to that..however issue is steem power , haha.
Thanks a lot for your comment and support. Wish you a blessed weekend.

👍 twinner

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@twinner · Aug 11 '17

Just flag them. If they flag back, call me.

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@unclehermit · Aug 13 '17

$0.02

There is also a finite amount of Steem to be shared amongst Steemit users. Spammers are essentially stealing value from bloggers and honest content consumers. 
There needs to be a mark as spam option so that spammers can, more quickly, be ostracised and ejected.

👍 unclehermit

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@charles1 · Aug 13 '17

$0.02

Good point, I agree. Thanks for your comment.

👍 jesta

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@whatamidoing · Aug 14 '17

As not everyone is really set on being a content creator, I think spam management is a good "steemit occupation" just like creator/curator/community worker/programmer.   But I think it's good if he vast majority just change our habits and make I think harder for spammers to find the benefit of spamming.  One way to do this is to attempt to make stronger relationships and becoming a more loyal "follower" (friend is a better word) to the people on your feed.  When most people put more weight on strong relationships it makes spammers feel like their attempts are useless and they.  The easiest way to get a ton of follows is to comment on EVERYTHING but are you going to remember those people?   I haven't really encountered to many spammers because I try to find people who I have some things in common with and avoid the trending hit AND new page.  I focus more on making friends with people who leave interesting posts on comments,

@jonaltres should really stop though,  she said the only spammer I have encountered so far.  It seems her heart is in the right place but urgh, it's too much spam.

@ionlysaymeep is more of a performance artist in my eyes haha

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@charles1 · Aug 14 '17

You are right indeed, great comment. Hahah @ionlysaymeep  and the brother @onlymanamana and @banjo are funny bots indeed especially the first 2. Thanks for your comment.

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@xevensolution · Aug 11 '17

Yes they must be stopped.

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@charles1 · Aug 11 '17

Good point, thanks

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@zufrizal · Aug 15 '17

Say not spam

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@charles1 · Aug 15 '17

I agree

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paasz	2,294,127,912	100%
zammie	787,167,426	100%
pastrane	793,412,769	100%
lalupita	4,173,382,950	100%
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voter	rshares	pct
quinneaker	0	1%
ryn	20,870,733,776	100%
replichara	11,734,117,055	100%
doctorcrypto	9,490,321,315	100%
brenda-nalle	621,350,725	100%
harshallele	606,471,713	100%
electric-d	600,934,400	100%
joroderick	613,324,800	100%
initforthemoney	8,501,657,430	100%

voter	rshares	pct
jesta	7,588,968,387	0.1%
ryn	20,417,022,172	100%
marcusxman	68,838,428	0.05%

voter	rshares	pct
stellabelle	2,279,566,710,265	100%
victoria2002	2,800,709,432	100%
ryn	20,417,022,172	100%
brenda-nalle	608,472,990	100%
fbslo	0	100%

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voter	rshares	pct
pharesim	114,520,910,308	0.02%
whatsup	3,372,073,808	1%
cardboard	414,347,782	100%
fbslo	0	100%

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voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
thecryptofiend	0 B		16,993,600,615	1%
cryptoninja	0 B		84,498,570	0.2%

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voter	rshares	pct
good-karma	101,839,683,327	0.5%
mysteem	84,108,623	1%
demo	162,264,394	1%
feruz	1,521,019,889	1%
esteemapp	1,637,769,824	1%
bounties	172,474,655	1%
steempoll	167,421,006	1%
tipping	152,152,984	1%
melooo182	2,107,991,542	100%
brenda-nalle	631,009,027	100%
palme	50,214,667,756	100%
aleoni	0	100%

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