Viewing a response to: @steemitblog/our-plan-for-onboarding-the-masses
I made this original image back in April 2017. Not much progress has been made, it seems...neither with messaging nor implementation.  https://steemit.com/special-report/@ats-david/special-report-another-marketing-post-released-by-steemit-inc <br> >We want to solve this problem and, as the team that released the base protocol and maintains the most used Steem-powered interface, we have the most to gain by doing so. You want to solve this problem, but you not only refuse to improve your actual interface - which is what most "normies" (the masses) care about - you also make investment into the platform far too risky and essentially useless. You dilute stakeholder influence over the reward pool by delegating massive amounts of your "ninja-mine" while simultaneously continuing your programmatic selling of STEEM tokens at market prices. Not to mention the fact that you delivered a plethora of poorly rationalized code changes that destroyed both the economic incentives and the social elements of this platform. You're not going to onboard users while making your main selling point *"Get paid to blog!"* when the "payments" are most frequently on the decline. Social media is primarily about the social experience of users. They don't need money to interact. The money is the big bonus. It's what gives you an advantage over other sites **_if the rest of the playing field was somewhat equal._** It is not. Steemit.com (and the other Steem interfaces) offers very little to the masses. Communities won't matter much if the rest of the site is difficult and/or unpleasant to use and look at. Tokenization (SMTs!!!) won't matter much if nobody likes the site and the "popular" content. So, how are you going to onboard masses with the main enticement being communities and scary crypto tokens? Facebook has groups. They work pretty well for most FB users. Same with Reddit. Same with most other popular sites. People use those and are happy...and they make no money at all. How do you plan to compete with those interfaces when you have an aesthetically and socially inferior product? How can you entice people to come for the money when you're doing your best to make the token worthless and investment pointless? How can you expect people to believe you about delivering on your promises when you have continually broken promises and missed delivery dates for three years? Communities have been talked about since the winter of 2016/2017 with a delivery date in 2017. SMTs have been talked about since at least September 2017 with a delivery date "sometime in 2018." We're now over half-way through 2019 and we still have neither. You ask for feedback and suggestions...but you mostly ignore actual feedback and suggestions unless it's something you already planned on doing or unless it's blowing smoke up your asses about how wonderful you are. **_Maybe start by actually addressing criticism so that the criticism doesn't go unanswered or even_** **uncorrected** **_for years on end. Unless, of course, the criticism is spot-on and you have no adequate response to it._**
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>Social media is primarily about the social experience of users. They don't need money to interact. The money is the big bonus. Agree with the bonus part, in fact it's something I have suggested in some forum talks: advertise STEEM as a censorship-resistant social media platform (the time is perfect given the current Youtube, Assbook and Shitter censorships), with a small print that people can get rewarded for their blogging activities. When people saw there was MONEY to be made they lost their mind, which caused a flood of scammers, spammers and shitposts. Not only from small users, but from many whales themselves who pretend to care but in reality don't give a shit. Their behavior is a testament to their hypocrisy. I would love to see STEEM grow with massive onboarding, but before focusing on the latter, people with highest impact (whales) need to shift their mindset, because after all, it's their stake too on the line, if they keep trashing it, it will keep losing value.
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the biggest whales are likely voting bots now
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Either that, or self-voters.
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>advertise STEEM as a censorship-resistant social media platform (the time is perfect given the current Youtube, Assbook and Shitter censorships), the reason I stayed here regardless of STEEM value ups and downs. But it is just one component of the *potential* this chain holds. I don't think it appeals to "the masses" all that much. So, *yes*, it is a point that Steemit should use in advertising
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> You ask for feedback and suggestions...but you mostly ignore actual feedback and suggestions unless it's something you already planned on doing or unless it's blowing smoke up your asses about how wonderful you are. I worry about this and I'll bring it up to them personally but my experience is that we were heavily invested and involved in helping them with communities months ago... sadly we now only get insights into the project from these posts. ON THE OTHER HAND There is an issue that the previous community post was almost entirely just me giving feedback, asking questions and making some change suggestions and everyone else ( a couple other people) were just brainstorming new ideas and the post got messy so i ditched it for direct communication. No other interfaces seem to be involved with communities discussion so it's actually a sucky situation for steemit inc. ... I'm not sure if that's because other interfaces aren't actively developing and aren't interested in this? Or is it because they still have a ways to go with communication to foster more actual back and forth idea solving communication. Seems most people seem to just cheer or try to bash, an environment of co-working on solutions isn't really developed yet.
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Steem is indubitably an abysmal social network, only rivaled by 8Chan. At least 8Chan is infamous for being the worst social network on the internet, no one even cares about Steem. There's absolutely nothing Steem offers that can even remotely compete with Reddit. Save for a few tinfoil looneys, scammers and hate speech abusers who'd be banned off any civilised social networks. And "people getting paid", but that has proven as thoroughly broken and unsustainable as the Papiermark. I'll likely be accused of trolling, but I have the best interests of Steem in mind. This is an appeal to not be weighed down by your heavy bags in denial and delusion; instead, engage in some critical thinking. Steem needs a complete overhaul to even try and compete with the far superior social networks where "the masses" are.
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cryptogee | 0 | 18,926,804,923 | 100% | ||
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Sorry, bro. I canβt read your comment... <br>  <br> I think communities and SMTs might fix that.
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Ah yes; what does the post say above about owning your content? They literally took away one of the founding philosophies of the platform, and still claim that it is there. This is what we call in the UK, piss on us and tell us it's raining. [*Cg*](https://steemit.com/@cryptogee)[*Cg*](https://steemit.com/@cryptogee)
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nice
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Lol. That image speaks louder than any words I can conjure.
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The masses are not coming? Why didn't somebody say so? There is no need for promoting Steem? The Steem blockchain is dead? ...What about the other platform projects?
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I'm not a social network developer, so I lack the skills to design an overhaul. Nevertheless, as a user of social media and a supporter of Steem, I have offered plenty of opinion on the matter over the last 3 years. You can check my blog and comments for some recent thoughts on the matter.
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>There's absolutely nothing Steem offers that can even remotely compete with Reddit. this is so remotely false it hurts
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Semantically, remotely false means almost true.
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cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 47 |
author_reputation | 177,167,275,265,899 |
root_title | "Our Plan for Onboarding the Masses" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 88,755,439 |
net_rshares | 50,521,191,292 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
jacobtothe | 0 | 50,521,191,292 | 20% |