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RE: Bitfinex, Blockchain Hacks, and Replay Attacks Oh My - All Things that Steem’s Technology is designed to prevent. by edbriv

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· @edbriv · (edited)
gracias por su post friends and sorry for the hassle but could help me in this cause gives a Upvote to Venezuela!
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@dantheman · (edited)
$6.13
This type of off topic advertizing is a quick way to get downvotes and hurt your reputation.  I will ask others with less weight to downvote you as a warning until we get a GUI in place that lets me downvote with less weight than my full weight would would send you straight to -5 or -6.

Update: after reviewing your post and seeing this same spam in dozens of places plus the blatant vote begging, I decided to downvote you anyway.   We are updating the reputation system such that my downvotes are not enough to singlehandedly censor you.   You can still come back from this, but it will require being respectful of others.
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@doctorstrange ·
Is it unreasonable to have more than one upvote and downvote option? 

Intuitively when we see the flag we think it's for spam and abuse, and the tooltip says that flagging the post  can take away rewards and make material less visable. This can be a severe penalty and more than a "downvoter" would be comfortable with. They may just disagree, or think the post is poorly conceived, but not want to penalize so harshly.

Conversely, there are posts, like those from @dantheman, that feel like they are not quite deserving of a large monetary payout, but are still very much appreciated. Like the post that is made here. I assume there are many others like me that really would like to give an upvote to this post, but don't want to because there are other posts that deserve reward more than yours here, but we still want to voice our appreciation by giving the "thumbs up".

It would seem that there is no downside to having a thumbs up thumbs down option that doesn't affect monetary rewards, along with the upvote reward button and the flag for abuse option.

I can only assume that such an idea has already been considered, but if not I wonder what the issues might be for implementation as it would seem to solve a problem while introducing only a modicum of complication to the system.

Cheers
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@edbriv ·
@dantheman la verdad no pretendía que me dieras downvote ahora no puedo ayudar a mi pais por tu culpa solo quería publicitar mi contenido por favor elimina tu downvote para poder continuar con mi campaña acabas de dañar mi reputacion
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@liondani ·
> until we get a GUI in place that lets me downvote with less weight than my full weight would

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@arcurus ·
+1 Here some thoughts to that: I would suggest to allow 3 different kind of votes:
If you press the first time upvote you only rank the post higher, no extra payout.
If you press the second time upvote your vote is also considered for the payout.
If you press the third time upvote you indicate that this post is very very important for you. 
This important posts could be valued higher lets say 10x, but should be more limited then normal upvotes, lets say max 30 in the last 30 days.

This would also solve the problem, that post get lot payout, that simply link to a breaking news, like for example the post of the bitfinex hack. With this in place we could just make the post with the braking news more visible without giving an extra money for a post that is done in 10 seconds.

The same voting we can also do the opposite:
1 time pressed downvote, the post just gets less visible
2 time pressed downvote, you reduce the payout, same way as now.
3 time pressed downvote, your vote is counted 10 times, but limited to 30 times per 30 days.

What do you think?
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@mrzazaful ·
@dantheman hope you roll that out soon. There is a whole community of people that have been downvoted once by a whale and effectively banned from the platform. For instance I was downvoted once by @berniesanders two weeks ago when I was a new user for not knowing the convention, and now I can't participate.
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@timsaid ·
In the last days I saw many user who spam frequently. How about having a group who can report these spammers and an admin decides whether  or not do downvote or completely censor them? The reputation system is definitely a great step towards  improving our ecosystem and making people think twice before they spam. Looking forward for more solutions to reduce this annoying behavior. In case I come up to an idea I will try to spread the word :) (but not the spammy way lol)
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@demotruk ·
Why does everyone keep wanting to bring back the central power model of other forums? Steemit is a breath of fresh air compared to moderator-controlled forums, let's at least give the reputation system a go before instantly going back to the widely abused model most forums use.
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@lukestokes ·
Hit up https://steemit.chat/channel/steemitabuse-classic as there are often people there with enough SP to make a positive difference.
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@edbriv ·
Please @chryspano I so beg eliminates your DOWNVOTE this comment me is affecting a lot
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