RE: INTRODUCING VIPER: Sound, video, and blogging platform using STEEM and IPFS by nokodemion

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steem · @nokodemion · Feb 13 '18

$2.09

From the Whitepaper : Are you serious?
***
From the Whitepaper:

> Tipping authors and promoting post will compose an important part of this system, users can support an author or an event by making a small donation. Gamification will promote this action. In order to make a small donation, users need to add fund to their balance, therefore, this system act like a bate that break the mental barrier of adding the first fund. 

Gamification? Bate? Mental Barrier? 

>  Adding fund should be easy as fuck...

Pass that bong to me, please...

> The main strategy is to increase the number of visitors trough automatic process and then optimize each evolution of a users to get the best conversion rate in order to extract the maximum value from a user. 

Enough for me, I skipp this one, what were you thinking?

👍 howo, bronevik, nokodemion, edb, rynergy, pbock, mindforfun2, blockchainnation, pignus, lowestdefinition, koen28001, uv10, steeminformation, sbbank, sam1210, zzuper, m0glie, bobskibob, sammarkjames, natord, coderzairos, goneup, reddutopia, kivsha, theb0red1, jackmacyinexile, vectorabbot, cannabiscanada, flotilla, darksidetaino, sergejkarkarov, havaak, outtheshellvlog, whiningcripple, ndnewell

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@bronevik · Feb 13 '18

$1.91

You hjust made tldr of the month for me

👍 bronevik, darksidetaino, hadxp, davidhangs

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@reddutopia · Feb 13 '18

$0.46

Hahaha you made me lol quite hard. This project does sound a bit shady... The part that shook me was the "Viper split author's post reward and keep 25% in order to improve the quality of our service and continuously improve the general satisfaction of the community."

So VIPER takes both donations and a (fucking big) fee. What's the point here of using it instead of Steemit if we're gonna loose a quarter of our gains (and I'm not that big, those gains I'm making are not that big..)

👍 nokodemion, edb, leoplaw, reddutopia, wenaptic, havaak

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@infamusfiend · Feb 13 '18

$0.04

Steemit takes 25% as well, as does dtube, and dmania.

👍 vortex.chat

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@furion · Feb 13 '18

$0.37

Steemit does not take any fee. Some other services do "charge a fee" via the beneficiary system.

👍 nokodemion, leoplaw, theb0red1, darksidetaino, whiningcripple

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15 replies

@reddutopia · Feb 13 '18

Wow. Bro. You enlightened me! Didn't even know that and I've been here for 3 months now..
Well I'll try this VIPER platform out

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@valth · Feb 13 '18

As @furion pointed out, Steemit does not take a fee. You might be thinking about the curation "fee" where the curators get 25 % of the pending reward. This will still be happening on Viper as well, in addition to the 25 % cut they take. 

It's true that other sites also have beneficiary systems, but it's often not 25 %. I think 10 or 15 % is a lot more common.

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5 replies

@sunnyade · Feb 14 '18

i quite agree with you there, i dont know about others anyway![14612602_1282785158431079_6076784238713475333_o.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmWPzpWpgzpUtZMtRyo5qBofLTBuToBeik6ShmUUUu7u92/14612602_1282785158431079_6076784238713475333_o.jpg)

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@vortex.chat · Feb 13 '18 (edited)

Yes, viper's system promote donation and support for donations, the mental barrier as we are talking about is the lack of simplicity.

The terms are a bit rough as we see as it is, the marketing is designed to be the most efficient possible, and protection systems are designed in order to keep and maintain a "positive" order and control along with a lot of competition.

Meanwhile, attracting users, and providing a useful and enjoyable experience is the essence of our advantages. Think of it as an engineered stream of excitement.

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@arjuna96 · Feb 14 '18

cave to cave

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@yesaye · Feb 14 '18

lmao I thought whitepapers were supposed to be formal and professional.

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