RE: Our Plan for Onboarding the Masses by richardcrill

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steem · @richardcrill · Jul 26 '19

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@steemitblog, Steemit Inc., If you actually care at all or want to appear that you have any idea, please listen to this valuable feedback you've been given over and over and over again. What is the overall value proposition for the bidbots on the platform? How could it possibly be worth destroying the ingenious content discovery/rewarding mechanism that every one here signed up for?

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@blake.letras · Jul 29 '19

$0.24

Please allow me to respond to this content with my opinion.

There is a value to upvoting as a service. You may not like it, but people have to pay for visibility on nearly every free-to-play social site. Additionally, it benefits the authors that do not want to have to be an investor in the Steem platform but simply wants to optimize the visibility of their content.

There are more attractive options, such as the HoboDAO which aims to be a daily contest for independent journalism and informative blogging. But it still costs, with a submission fee in a token, the Hobo token, in order to submit your work for review and possible curation and 5x token rewards to the select winners based on quality work.

Curie is another great project that benefits people. However, services such as TipU are legitimate businesses performing a service that can benefit sincere authors that recognize that they can increase their readership through paid promotion. That is just rational economics.

Amazon is full of indie authors, which is wonderful, but it also means there is a difficulty in authors gaining visibility. For this reason, the authors that are willing to purchase increased visibility benefit from it and experience a higher rate of book sales.

It would be cool if quality made it to the top, but that is just not how things ever work. There are many amazing books that never become best sellers, and plenty of best sellers that are inferior to the lesser known books.

Why is it this way? Everything always comes to supply and demand in a free market. Once indie authors were empowered to be able to self-publish a major funnel in the supply/demand ratio was obliterated. We then entered the world of content bountifulness. Yay! That's a good thing, but then there was also a snag...

Most indie authors end up making something really sad like $100 for the lifetime of their book sales. But why? Because there's now so many books, readers can't read them all. A good book can be buried under the search list for its topic. Amazon widened the mouth of the funnel by a lot, but a natural filter still exists: content consumption rates. When we ran into that wall Amazon realized it could help some of the people gain visibility and profit from the deal.

The same is happening on Steem. A lot of people rushed to Steem to create content, and there's so much content production that your post ends up buried within minutes as new content under the same general category gets posted to the blockchain. This is a problem, but in an economy, every problem means there's an opportunity for someone to make profit by providing a solution.

A variety of solutions enter the scene. A common solution that has emerged is the *contest* system. The HoboDAO is aiming to be one such type of solution, as a *decentralized curation community* supporting quality work. But the service is not exactly for free, and its a contest, so its not a sure thing that your submission will even receive curation.

Then you have services like Steem Engine tribes/communities with their specific tokens. They are essentially centralized SMTs before SMTs arrive.

Then you have bidbots. The bidbot service is a simple and rather traditional concept. Sure, it does mean that you're getting upvotes that are not based on quality of content, but it doesn't mean the content is of poor quality. It simply means that the author is willing to purchase enhanced visibility.

I argue that bidbots are actually beneficial for Steem. Not easy to believe me? Let's look at what is happening with the many people using Steem as their main income due to being in a country with a very poor economy. Most of those people get free accounts and post hoping to earn STEEM. This is because a lot of these people cannot afford to invest large amounts of money into powering up their SP. So, Steem is a community made up of authors and investors, which is not the same thing as *investing authors*.

Bidbots increase the dollar value of STEEM because they go to the exchanges to buy STEEM and power it up for long-term use. They intend to keep much of the value powered up/staked because its their daily job. This is what I call a good hodler, and many bitcoiners would think so too.

Ultimately, owners of SP are people that bought something and it is network influence. They have the right to use their network influence how they wish.

Think about SP like real estate. You bought a house in a neighborhood because you liked the house. Your wife then decides to do a home business of tattoo work, and your neighbor comes knocking on the door saying they don't want you to do a tattoo service in your home because they think tattooed people in their neighborhood will effect the price of their home.

There's nothing illegal about doing that job out of your home, but the neighbor feels it hurts them somehow. Should they have the right to mess with what you do in your own home or on your land because they believe it "ruins" the neighborhood? I say no. I say that as long as you are non-violent, what you do with your property is your business.

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@organicwriter · Aug 8 '19

$0.07

i got some value from this comment as im real new to this space, gaining an understanding in how all this works is key to me, and i really do love this space already...

 so basically we have to pay for our content to stay up front, or would creating decent content on an untouched subject gain a lot of/more coverage?

Would teaming up all of the smaller bloggers, creating a un-named community say, by sticking togteher to rise above the mess work?

Give the smaller guys a chace so we can prosper....


Have a great day people, Not you bots! ;) 


Peace

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@richardcrill · Jul 29 '19

So every spot should be sold? I don't think so man. Selling paid for spots on the trending page makes sense like my tribe and many others do, but not the entire trending page. That defeats the whole content discovery mechanism. The word trending doesn't even fit there anymore. Its now all advertising. The content discovery mechanism worked great in the beginning and the market cap reflected it. There is no need for those long winded explanations. This stuff is pretty simple.

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@blake.letras · Jul 31 '19

$0.37

Then rename it from "Trending" to "Most Voted"? I don't even bother with Trending, I go straight to the New category. Frankly, I think being in Trending is mostly good for newcomers to the steemit.com site and not so much regulars.

Its not as simple as you make it out to be. What you want is practically impossible and very unrealistic as a goal. There is a big market in bot services on all the social sites, not just Steem. And for Steem to become anti-bidbot you are talking about a drastic overhaul of the blockchain.

Steem is pseudonymous as all open blockchains are and they are that way for very good reason. The coin STEEM is a utility token, a store of value and a currency all in one. If open blockchains were not pseudonymous then the better name for them would be doxxedchains... We can't have open blockchains and identifiable personal data together, people need to be protected by pseudonymity.

You are never going to eliminate vote selling. It is not possible to remove from Steem's design. It might have to get a little more sneaky rather than out in the open, but upvote circles/memberships are a fixture of this blockchain. Steem is staking platform, people will only stake if they get something out of it and they are always going to aim to maximize their gain.

If you really believe you can do it. Tell me how it can be fixed. Be detailed, give me all the technicals. Because I am confident it cannot be done without a very massive overhaul of everything. You are talking about way more than an HF23...

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@coininstant · Jul 28 '19 (edited)

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# I find it very hysterical to read the hypocrisy coming from @richardcrill these days!
Richard Crill AKA @coffeebuds tells everyone to invest in Steem-Engine Tokens while he is constantly selling them!
# Well at least he's right about something, he's right about not liking the bidbots!
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.00.14 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmNmo557sj4abSG43sfLUnksyaM7MRDWnwpA3mAQbfWkZQ/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.00.14%20PM.png)

# I was **SHOCKED** & surprised simply sifting through his public records (link below) on steemd.com!
https://steemd.com/@richardcrill?page=2 
# It appears he sells every token he gets his little greedy palms on - & fast! I think he **is** STINC!
He blocked me from the Weedcash.Network for nothing but fear?? I don't even really know why?????
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 8.49.27 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcZCof9Ge8MdDkrCyHwiwKzP41DTYoShW2a7qkaNdswAB/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%208.49.27%20PM.png)

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Here is a response I wrote to one of his peeps when I saw him lying to him! **Funny @coffeebuds tells @raj808 (above)there is no point trying to argue with STINC, that is a terrible answer!!!**
# And now it appears from his letter above that Richard Crill wants to start a new chain, "Leave STINC out of it" lol good luck with that! I hope he leaves, I wouldn't want to touch his "New Chain" with a ten foot pole! BYE Richard, been nice knowing YA! lol! 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
**Dear @raj808,**
> "*I'm writing a quick post about it right now! I find it amusing to read his response to you, while he blocks me!! What a douchebag! Do not trust him! Be loud, speak whatever you want!*"

---@coininstant

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# This is exactly why STINC blocks me now, they don't like the truth to be known & get out there! THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! lol
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# Everybody blocking me just provides even more reason to look for more ammunition to use against them.
It is all clear as day what these clowns really think of these Steem-Engine communities. I told them, however they don't want you too know so they try to block me! Wake up and upvote this post so more people can find it! Blocking me from Steem-Engine & Steemit.com was the stupidest STINC ever did, and will definitely lead to their demise!
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.20.42 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbgQTPkF5qho176iDQ5wDk5Vy2rgbCtDuBcG46qfKeVf2/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.20.42%20PM.png)
I have good karma, they they have bad karma! I'm just waiting for the Karma to take hold. It is already working for me, I'm getting lots of SP to use against them very easily now! LOL!

# Follow the Truth, follow @coininstant for more!

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# NOTE: It was just brought to my attention that Steem.Ninja is not a Bidbot, so please disregard that part.

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@elamental · Jul 27 '19

They don't care buddy, they are just pretending to - Government status.. If they cared they would have been listening and implementing a while ago.

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@raj808 · Jul 27 '19

Cheers Richard. 

My original comment comes from nearly 2 years of frustrations and dissatisfaction spilling out in one go. Thoughts and observations I've kept to myself out of the fear of having my rep destroyed.

Check out the recent response from andrachy in this thread and maybe consider weighing in if you have any thoughts. I really do think it's this complicity to work with and allow vote sellers into the highest positions of governance on steem which has kept things in a downward spiral.

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@coininstant · Jul 28 '19 (edited)

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# I find it very hysterical to read the hypocrisy coming from @richardcrill these days!
Richard Crill AKA @coffeebuds tells everyone to invest in Steem-Engine Tokens while he is constantly selling them!
# Well at least he's right about something, he's right about not liking the bidbots!
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.00.14 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmNmo557sj4abSG43sfLUnksyaM7MRDWnwpA3mAQbfWkZQ/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.00.14%20PM.png)

# I was **SHOCKED** & surprised simply sifting through his public records (link below) on steemd.com!
https://steemd.com/@richardcrill?page=2 
# It appears he sells every token he gets his little greedy palms on - & fast! I think he **is** STINC!
He blocked me from the Weedcash.Network for nothing but fear?? I don't even really know why?????
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 8.49.27 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcZCof9Ge8MdDkrCyHwiwKzP41DTYoShW2a7qkaNdswAB/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%208.49.27%20PM.png)

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Here is a response I wrote to one of his peeps when I saw him lying to him! **Funny @coffeebuds tells @raj808 (above)there is no point trying to argue with STINC, that is a terrible answer!!!**
# And now it appears from his letter above that Richard Crill wants to start a new chain, "Leave STINC out of it" lol good luck with that! I hope he leaves, I wouldn't want to touch his "New Chain" with a ten foot pole! BYE Richard, been nice knowing YA! lol! 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
**Dear @raj808,**
> "*I'm writing a quick post about it right now! I find it amusing to read his response to you, while he blocks me!! What a douchebag! Do not trust him! Be loud, speak whatever you want!*"

---@coininstant

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# This is exactly why STINC blocks me now, they don't like the truth to be known & get out there! THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! lol
<center>
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.20.03 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSjBGgN7ZKyEdmx4QLwvVrjdcYyiCXtQYm6Eah5AC4JmZ/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.20.03%20PM.png)
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# Everybody blocking me just provides even more reason to look for more ammunition to use against them.
It is all clear as day what these clowns really think of these Steem-Engine communities. I told them, however they don't want you too know so they try to block me! Wake up and upvote this post so more people can find it! Blocking me from Steem-Engine & Steemit.com was the stupidest STINC ever did, and will definitely lead to their demise!
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.20.42 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbgQTPkF5qho176iDQ5wDk5Vy2rgbCtDuBcG46qfKeVf2/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.20.42%20PM.png)
I have good karma, they they have bad karma! I'm just waiting for the Karma to take hold. It is already working for me, I'm getting lots of SP to use against them very easily now! LOL!

# Follow the Truth, follow @coininstant for more!

IMAGE SOURCE:
X FILES
IMAGES GIFY.com! & GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH! DUH!

![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.29.36 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcwsHfrtLx6NdspZNNbYhETW5WX7vb5e5uvnohMM7JBhV/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.29.36%20PM.png)

# NOTE: It was just brought to my attention that Steem.Ninja is not a Bidbot, so please disregard that part.

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@wehmoen · Jun 3 '20 (edited)

$0.04

👍 honusurf, coininstant

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13 replies

@richardcrill · Jul 27 '19

Cheers for trying @raj808 we all know it's true. A lot of us have been been pointing it out for a long time. Yeah, @andrarchy gave his political answer. Nothing from @ned. @dan left over this same nonsense. It has only gotten worse since then. I thought because of all the votes you got and their recent posturing, we might actually get a real response. I just feel silly for getting my hopes again. This place is controlled by greed. No one has ever answered my question. I don't know how to pose it any more clearly. The answer is that there is no real overall value proposition for having bid bots/ vote selling on the platform. It extracts value and ruins the content discovery and rewarding mechanism and makes quick profits for people who are either short sighted, or just don't care. I don't think it makes sense to expect anything different from them. I think there is an awesome community here and we just need to do it ourselves with a new chain and leave Stinc's dumb asses out of it.  I now see that as the most likely thing to make any real change. I reckon someone is already getting it ready. When somebody does it right, it will leave Steem in it's dust. It's good to see all the frustration. It's only a matter of time until someone brings the solution. It's abundantly clear that Stinc won't. No point in trying to argue with short sighted, greedy people, just build something better. It's just a matter of time.

👍 quantumdeveloper, kawaiicrush

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@coininstant · Jul 27 '19

https://steemit.com/weedcash/@coininstant/weecash-network-weed-claim-not-working-again-scam-central

👎 abusereports, iflagtrash

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@coininstant · Jul 27 '19 (edited)

Yeah I got my whole account censored and all this trouble started from me making one joke post about flagging the bidbots! lol sick and you went right along with them @coffeebuds! There is a point to argue and not to be quiet, it is our right! Don't shush people, encourage them!

👎 abusereports, iflagtrash

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@coininstant · Jul 28 '19 (edited)

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# I find it very hysterical to read the hypocrisy coming from @richardcrill these days!
Richard Crill AKA @coffeebuds tells everyone to invest in Steem-Engine Tokens while he is constantly selling them!
# Well at least he's right about something, he's right about not liking the bidbots!
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.00.14 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmNmo557sj4abSG43sfLUnksyaM7MRDWnwpA3mAQbfWkZQ/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.00.14%20PM.png)

# I was **SHOCKED** & surprised simply sifting through his public records (link below) on steemd.com!
https://steemd.com/@richardcrill?page=2 
# It appears he sells every token he gets his little greedy palms on - & fast! I think he **is** STINC!
He blocked me from the Weedcash.Network for nothing but fear?? I don't even really know why?????
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 8.49.27 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcZCof9Ge8MdDkrCyHwiwKzP41DTYoShW2a7qkaNdswAB/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%208.49.27%20PM.png)

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Here is a response I wrote to one of his peeps when I saw him lying to him! **Funny @coffeebuds tells @raj808 (above)there is no point trying to argue with STINC, that is a terrible answer!!!**
# And now it appears from his letter above that Richard Crill wants to start a new chain, "Leave STINC out of it" lol good luck with that! I hope he leaves, I wouldn't want to touch his "New Chain" with a ten foot pole! BYE Richard, been nice knowing YA! lol! 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
**Dear @raj808,**
> "*I'm writing a quick post about it right now! I find it amusing to read his response to you, while he blocks me!! What a douchebag! Do not trust him! Be loud, speak whatever you want!*"

---@coininstant

![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.04.49 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZcPHbmeiDLwLHfF5tq4g11hkLhWpzG8rMNKGt7qS4Ciw/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.04.49%20PM.png)

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# This is exactly why STINC blocks me now, they don't like the truth to be known & get out there! THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! lol
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![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.20.03 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSjBGgN7ZKyEdmx4QLwvVrjdcYyiCXtQYm6Eah5AC4JmZ/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.20.03%20PM.png)
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# Everybody blocking me just provides even more reason to look for more ammunition to use against them.
It is all clear as day what these clowns really think of these Steem-Engine communities. I told them, however they don't want you too know so they try to block me! Wake up and upvote this post so more people can find it! Blocking me from Steem-Engine & Steemit.com was the stupidest STINC ever did, and will definitely lead to their demise!
![Screen Shot 2019-07-26 at 9.20.42 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbgQTPkF5qho176iDQ5wDk5Vy2rgbCtDuBcG46qfKeVf2/Screen%20Shot%202019-07-26%20at%209.20.42%20PM.png)
I have good karma, they they have bad karma! I'm just waiting for the Karma to take hold. It is already working for me, I'm getting lots of SP to use against them very easily now! LOL!

# Follow the Truth, follow @coininstant for more!

IMAGE SOURCE:
X FILES
IMAGES GIFY.com! & GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH! DUH!

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# NOTE: It was just brought to my attention that Steem.Ninja is not a Bidbot, so please disregard that part.

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@elamental · Jul 28 '19 (edited)

$0.07

It has gotten to the point where reading "updates" from st-ink that they force to the top of your feed is just a complete an utter waste of time, filled with false "hope" for things that aren't even essential for positive advancement of the platform or community anyway (and most people do not really care about). The biggest REAL problem for the value as Steem as a currency is obviously bc st-ink is cashing out 500,000 Steem a day, which even at $0.25 is still $100,000 USD per day! How much Steem do they need to cash out before they will let the value recover somewhat?! There are many people  (including myself) that would love to be able to cash out some of their earnings at a decent value that we originally powered up bc of our faith in the platform, or maybe even pre-order some Steem silver rounds with Steem if it was even worth $1.... the same round project in which Ned was delivered an original one from 2017 and did not even take the time to post a photo (let alone a short article) about it on Steem to help promote the Steem silver round project (like there would have been anyone with more influence to help). 

Ned just needs to stop cashing out copious amounts of Steem every day and stay the F out of Steem community affairs and development from now on. SMT's are a dead initiative bro, no offense - but let's be real (and communities, lol, we have our own, very well established communities thank you). I cant think of anyone who actually wanted SMTs to exist here in the first place anyway (aside from those that spent a ridiculous amount of time and money creating projects designed for SMTs only to loose their investments due to them not ever being released, let alone in the scheduled time frame - all those peeps are dead in the water with those SMT deals  atm - but hey, who's fault is that?)

Aside from the collapsed price of Steem, and the obvious ecosystem detriments like the abuse of bidbots and the uneven distribution of wealth, putting most of the power in the hands of the few, who for the most part do not care about quality anything (why does this sound so familiar...) - STEEM as a community is THRIVING! Steempeak is kickin' SteemMosters has taken off like wildfire, Hashkings is about to release a VR version of the platform, the WeedCash network is just fucking awesome for many reasons, Steem Engine is providing custom forms of everything SMTs failed on which is bonkers, and even Dtube has made drastic improvements with some super ingenious server saving developments and developed a token and blockchain of its own... while all St-ink ever seems to be concerned with is how can we run things more cheaply while still cashing out as much as we can and ignoring user's amazing suggestions that can actually help things.. Its almost as if they want to keep the price down and the community subjugated. 

All I can say is, give the people their platform, your screwing it up like a government screws up its country. We do not need your centralized regulation and power structure any longer, you made a TON of money off this, its time to give the people what they deserve, and back the F off! Be a little better than our world governments and have some compassion for people other that your inner circle. Seriously... oh and the "light-accounts" idea is just absurd due to info mentioned here and more - **@STEEMITBLOG AND IT'S UPPER ESCALON ACCOUNTS SHOULD BE LITE ACCOUNTS**... then we'd be good.

(turning this into a post later for more exposure - although that will be limited since I don't use bidbots lol)

👍 canna-curate, richardcrill, crescendoofpeace

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@honusurf · Jul 27 '19

https://steemit.com/weedcash/@coininstant/coffeebuds-richardcrill-the-hypocrite-steem-engine-token-and-bid-bot-shocking-scam-alert

👎 abusereports, iflagtrash

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@sidequest · Jul 28 '19

> The answer is that there is no real overall value proposition for having bid bots/ vote selling on the platform.

My guess is they're scared if they eliminate bidbots and delegation as a method of passive "investment" then a lot of stakeholders will have no reason to hold SP anymore? Of course it's impossible to keep that faucet hooked up to the "Content" pool while also trying to make it systematically better to manually curate, which renders the EIP ridiculous. But who knows?

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@themonetaryfew · Jul 26 '19

$0.02

One person / one vote?

👍 themonetaryfew, jbgarrison72

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@jbgarrison72 · Jul 27 '19

I think stake should give votes more weight, but, perhaps the downvoting could be more "democratic."

👍 quantumdeveloper, xmauron3

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@madalchemist · Jul 29 '19

$0.02

They fucked up any chance of that by allowing anyone to make as many accounts as they want.

👍 themonetaryfew, kawaiicrush

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@themonetaryfew · Jul 30 '19

I was hinting at Voice.com :)

Both approaches can have their place

👍 themonetaryfew

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