RE: @officialfuzzy's BitClones! New Steemit Clone(S) for every language! (pending license from Steemit Inc.) -- A Golos Inspired Parody by rusteemitblog

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steem · @rusteemitblog · Sep 23 '16

$0.14

Well, it’s interesting to see where does this all goes.

Especially because we’re in @rusteemitblog trying our best to spread the ideas and help communities to find an understanding, since it is quite hard because of a language barrier.
We think that russian community is going to stay here, at least we are going to continue to translate the most important things happening on steemit and post it in our blog.

People always tend to stick around their language group, but it doesn’t mean that they needed to stay there, go separate from others and build an artificial borders.
Steemit and blockchain in general is not about that.

Of course, we are going to observe this curious experiment called Golos, because any result is a result in the end.

👍 officialfuzzy, serejandmyself, lehard, smailer, zaebars, gomeravibz, brindleswan, on0tole, xanoxt, steemlift, rusteemitblog

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@gomeravibz · Sep 23 '16

you are doing an awesome job  I know full well !! Gooooo @zaebars !!

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@officialfuzzy · Sep 24 '16

You will do fine.  Remember this is literally an Open Beta for something (as I said above) and 4 months old.  As an MVP it is beautiful but we as a community need to recognize that we are only hurting ourselves if we join and then leave because it is too hard too early.  Instead we should be focusing on the tools that autotranslate these articles to your language of choice and tools to enable people to easily have steem added to their own wordpress pages and guild websites.  Then you will see a big change I suspect.  This could be done for very little in cost to the chain and would substantially help (over time).  

:)

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@xanoxt · Sep 24 '16

$0.03

The problem with autotranslated articles is that they are low quality, even if the original is well above the norm. That is what a lot of comments mentioned when people posted featured posts of Russian authors done with google translate. Even some translations made by people with average skill (which seems to me quite low) will have a lot of kinks here and there.
Hell, even the articles I translate both to and from English could be done better, and I am way above average, even if I say so myself.

👍 officialfuzzy

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@officialfuzzy · Sep 24 '16 (edited)

This still does not merit a whole new chain.  And additionally, if i ivest i this chain...how will THEY deal with the issues that i will not be abke to easily read and stay updated on the chain?  These tools will only become more accurate and eventually will not be a huge issue and WILL EVEN BE NEEDED IN RUSSIACHAIN (AKA GOLOS).
Posts do not need to be perfectly translates. Additionally, if you understand how they have it set up, they are nearly guaranteed to be able to choose who will he the top witnesses nearly indefinitely. 

This chain can handle it all. 

So with that said. How do you expect me to efficiently use my voting power on a chain that forces people not to use english or other languages?  
I really think you guys are not thinking this through enough. 
Plus i guarantee you someone could clone this for 100-200k MAX.  Maybe they would like to take out a loan and do that so the chain goes into tesnet and can be tested live before asking for 3 million dollars from "investors".

People unwilling to take risk on should not be given large sums of money imo. I dont care how good their story is. 

I am still wondering why they arent responding.

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2 replies

@xanoxt · Sep 24 '16

Like the rest of the enthusiasts I am sort of part of their team, the same way that the early adopters/witnesses are part of Steemit's team. And the same way that we are all part of Steemit's team. There is talk about your concerns in the chat, and I'll pass on this conversation, since I really hope to hear their answers. Besides they are working on a FAQ, and that sounds as an excellent question for it.
Besides, what they are really pushing in the chat is their reputation for transparency, their dedication to having this whole thing going smoothly and transparently, and answering those questions would further that. I'll post once I hear anything, but you are welcome to join https://chat.golos.io/ (that would require separate login from steemit.chat), or even [their telegram channel](https://telegram.me/golos_io/). Oh, and I'd be happy to see you join the [english telegram channel](https://telegram.me/steem_en).

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