Hi dear @achim03

Wow!
This has been the best analysis about Project Hope that I have read.
You described exactly how the economy of our project works.

> * authors that get a big upvote from the whole curation trail
> * curators that get a big increase in their curation rewards
> * investors who get a good return from delegating to project.hope

Beautiful!

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Neural Points:

> I believe that the community should stay a little bit exclusive so that people should really want to join it.

> If we promote the curation trail too much, we will only attract the downvoters and this is really the last thing that we want.

I am concerned that the curation rewards for @project.hope decreases, since the ROI of the delegators depends on this

@crypto.piotr, I think we should reformulate.

Your Friend, Juan.

Thanks @btcsam

Do you use discord? I would like to keep in touch with you a bit closer, since we seem to share some similar interests  - and now I've learned that you're based not far from me (im Polish). 

Cheers
Piotr

Thanks @cryptomaniacsgr

I'm not sure how did you find this post since I didn't try to promote it and I even posted it on my 'dead' account. Thx for your encouraging words.

ps. from which part of Greece are you?  Just curious :)

Yours
Piotr

Hi @culgin

> Nice. I am already on the trail.

I've noticed. Perhaps you could consider changing your upvote strength to 100% from 30%? 
@ph-fund will be used to upvote average 3-4 posts a day so I will never drain your voting power. Plus each of your upvotes will increase (at least double) in value since solid 200k upvote will follow up very next day.

> It will be good if you can describe what kind of content will be curated by this trail in your marketing campaign

Very good point. Those who are part of our group are fully aware what content are we curating, but surely many new users will find it unclear at the moment.

Will definetly have to think it through.

> If you are just going to vote for content within this community then there will bound to be people saying that it's circle-jerking.

Another solid point!

Reality is that I'm planning to slowly and steadily bring more content creators to project hope, but right now we're focusing on our existing userbase.

So it's crutial to avoid being accused of circle-jerking. 

I'm currently looking for way of setting up steemauto so it would avoid self-upvotes (which may obviously happen if we follow curation trials). Especially since @culgin mentioned that some users can see our curation trail as another "circle-jerking" group. Which I obviously want to avoid.

Any idea is steemauto.com does offer such an option? Or perhaps you could help me and find out who is behind development of steemauto.com? Apparently it's @mahdiyari - I'm going to try to contact him and ask if he could add such a feature. 
Let me know if I'm making sense.

Yours
Piotr

Welcome @deathcross in our little team :)

> I know you all but this post lacks on good marketing material in my view.

I absolutely agree with you here @forykw. This post has been published on my 'spare' account and I only wanted to get to know all your opinion.

Thanks for your valuable feedback. 

> I will be around. But not as much as I were in 2019... even if I post more, due Family reasons. But when I reach 50, if you still are on STEEM, get ready to get sick of hearing from me

Man, I hope you will not disappear :(

Dear @jadams2k18, @juanmolina

I believe that "wait time" should be closer to 0 :) So your upvote would happend right after @ph-fund upvote (which means, that this publication has been resteemed and "market" for later upvote by @project.hope and @coach.piotr)

Also go to dashboard and change settings: Upvote Mana threshold = perhaps 90%:

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmVSikzH53T6Gm76VtdDb5EczkHy2k4jH6VMfnVFG8Fj6f/obraz.png)

Hope it was quite easy to set up. I'm currently looking for way of setting up steemauto so it would avoid self-upvotes (which may obviously happen if we follow curation trials).

Yours
Piotr

Brother, it seems you did well.
But you just have to make sure you did it through the "curation trail" option and not the "fan base" option.

Hi, I think it's fine, I can see that you did it in the "curation trail" section because it's the only one I know that has the Method column.

It is good that you adjusted the default settings, because it is charging only 50% of the voting power of the account that you follow, that is, any percentage of vote that makes the account you follow, your account would only do half, I prefer to do the same as you and put the vote at 100%.

Another thing is that I thought of loading it as "FIXED VOTING WEIGHT", but I preferred not to do so and let the @ph-fund account set the tone for the vote.

![trail ScreenShot_20191216190819.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/pedrobrito2004/cdGY7ojJ-trail20ScreenShot_20191216190819.png)

I see that you are number 7 (according to a friend that is good luck hahaha) I came to be number 9 ... without alludes to Tim Burton...

![](http://img.filmsactu.net/datas/films/9/n/9-nine/xl/4a2fec2bbdfea.jpg)
[Source](http://cinema.jeuxactu.com/critique-cinema-numero-9-6945.htm)

Good point Juan

> Maybe you would need an advance draft?

Definetly. I will prepare my own post first and share it with you and others and based on it everyone involved will be able to write his own publication.

Yours
Piotr

Hi @juanmolina

Indeed jump from average of 0.04SP to 0.135 is quite huge. It's over 300% more. I bet it's mostly because of curation coming from @curangel (very powerful account)

Thank you for also sharing your doubts. That's the most valuable feedback I've been looking for and @culgin also brought up some solid concerns, that I need to take into consideration.

1)
> If I join the trail and the trail votes for my post, then I would be making a self-vote. How can we address this?

I'm currently looking for way of setting up steemauto so it would avoid self-upvotes (which may obviously happen if we follow curation trials). Especially since @culgin mentioned that some users can see our curation trail as another "circle-jerking" group. Which I obviously want to avoid.

Any idea is steemauto.com does offer such an option? Or perhaps you could help me and find out who is behind development of steemauto.com? Apparently it's @mahdiyari - I'm going to try to contact him and ask if he could add such a feature. 

2)
> People who join our trail would may want that their posts curated by @project.hope. In this case, what would be the demands we could make to cure them?
> Would they have to be delegates of a minimum of 1000 SP? Would they have to publish within the theme of our group? The fact of belonging to the trail, doesn't the possibility of being cured imply?

You kind of lost me here. Delegations will have nothing to do with this curating trail. 
Delegator benefits: are being rewarded with distribution of 100% curation rewards coming from @project.hope (based on my experience, it's currently little bit more than any other program / bot is offering). 

If you look at post resteemed at @project.hope then you will notice that we indeed focus on our group, however every now and then I'm also resteeming and upvoting publications of people not realated to our current team from time to time.

Reality is that I'm planning to slowly and steadily bring more content creators to project hope, but right now we're focusing on our existing userbase. 

Anyway goal of this curation trail is simple: to bring more rewards to project hope community. In the nearest future all valuable post published via "project hope community" (currently in beta stage) will be upvoted by @ph-fund (however my limit will be 3-4 posts a day maximum - to avoid using all upvotes of those who follow curation trail).

Let me know if I'm making sense.

Yours
Piotr

Helpful, thanks.

You can use steemrewarding to create a rule where you don't upvote yourself when following a curation trail. As far as I know, the steemauto site doesn't have this functionality yet.

I like your new profile picture @lanzjoseg 

Looking so professional! :)

hehehe @majes.tytyty :) I always love your replies. you're making me feel super-smart :P

ps.
did you ever use steemauto.com? If you didn't then perhaps I could guide you and show you how to join this curation trail? 

Plus I'm curious how much would strength of your upvote increase if @project.hope would upvote some content which you upvoted previously.

I've noticed that you upvoted your post with 50% voting power. I will upvote this post sometime tomorrow and compare amount of rewards you would receive before and after 200k upvote from @project.hope. I'm sure it will at least double :)

Cheers,
Piotr

Good morning @nickyhavey

I hope you don't mind that my reply will be quite long as I will try to adress all your questions.

> This is the first time I've come across your project so I want to help where I can and apologise if I have the wrong impression.

Most of all - thank you for your feedback and there is absolutely no need for your appology. 

I fully understand that those who are involved in project.hope (especially those who are part of it from the beginning) may not see our efforts the way other people do. And I always appreciate comments as valuable as yours. 

> my first reaction to this post was that this does feel a little bit like "gaming the system" to me

Would you mind sharing with me what made you feel this way? We're trying to build small economy around this project, which involves people who participate for different reasons:
A) delegators 
they who enjoy weekly payouts based on project.hope curation, which currently are slightly higher than all bots I came across do offer

B) content creators 
Right now it's still a small group of over 20 steem users, who share similar interests towards topics focusing on technology, blockchain, steem, AI, economy, business, psychology and anything related
I got to know all of them and I'm focusing on supporting their content with strong upvotes. All of them are very responsive and supportive towards the others. 
Each publication upvoted by @ph-fund curation trail is also resteemed on @project.hope. So perhaps you could have a look at this profile and see for yourself what kind of content we're supporting.
Each author is also setting up 15-20% beneficiary from it's post, which goes to our fund account (ph-fund).

C) core team
Main goal of project.hope is to help me to create some job opportunity for few users from Venezuela, who I got to know also through Steemit. All 5 of them are highly educated, but struggling on daily basis because of economic situation in their country.
I don't want to support them directly financially, so we're focusing on building some job opportunities for them.

To achieve that goal, we're trying to promote traffic and increase rewards of all content creators collaborating with us. Those 20% profits from their publications = project.hope revenue, which is steadily growing. And this revenue is being used to support financially our "core team". Allowing them to 

D) myself
Sometimes people ask: How do I personally benefit? And the answer is quite simple: as a social media marketer I care about getting to know people from within blockchain and crypto industry. I care mostly about building new, solid relationships. And being in the centre of project.hope is helping me to achieve that goal.

It's a win-win situation, which [I also explained in details in recent post: PROJECT HOPE ECONOMY EXPLAINED](https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/3-ways-of-joining-our-efforts-project-hope-economy-explained)

Please let me know if my explanation does make sense. I would love to hear your thoughts.

### Curation trail
Curation trail is our recent idea that would allow us to involve people, who would like to support out goals but do not wish to delegate their own SP.

Perhaps you could consider joining as well, knowing that @ph-fund upvote is triggered only 3-4 times daily. And that each of your upvote will be followed with 300k SP upvote from @project.hope

Yours
Piotr

hi again @nickyhavey

I hope my previous reply wasn't to long and didn't put you to sleep :)

No plans for any christmas date Pedro? :) 

Hopefully your electric power won't die down during this time of the year.

Cheers
Piotr

Thank you @rentmoney for your kind comment.

I wonder how did you bump into this old topic :)  

> I'm unable to follow any trials due to how much manual curating

Absolutely. I would only suggest to visit posts resteemed on project.hope whenever you have time and see for yourself if there is any post worth your upvote. Most resteemed recently are still 'awaiting' to be upvoted with 300k SP, so you can assume that each of your upvote will double your curation rewards.

Cheers
Piotr

It's me again @rentmoney

> I do plan on doing a little write up that includes the project.hope project at some point

:) hope you're still planning on doing it?  Please share link with me whenever you would post it. I will gladly upvote your post and read it too :)

Cheers, 
Piotr

Dear @robertvogt

Thank you for dropping by and for your willingness to support our efforts. If you follow @ph-fund curation trail then all your upvotes will be triggered right before 300k SP upvote from @project.hope would follow.
This way curation rewards from your own upvotes will double.

However if you don't want to be active at all on steemit - perhaps you should consider delegating your SP to @project.hope - we share 100% rewards from curation rewards with all delegators.
More details: https://www.projecthope.pl/passive_income

ps. I'm very curious how did you find this publication :) I also noticed that you already delegated all your SP. Did you do it via dlease.io? Just curious.

Yours, Piotr

Hi @robertvogt

Did you read my previos reply by any chance?