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RE: How Do You Feel About AI Doing Creative Stuff? by bucho

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· @bucho ·
a fascinating fucking topic though! i hope this gets some good discussion going as i'd love to hear other people's views on this.
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@sgupta ·
To my sense : AI means Artificial Intelligence but where is the intelligence.Intelligence has been missing...humans are making effort and showing their creativity but still human brain is very complex to understand.Neural Network is doing a pretty well job but the intelligence is not there.No one properly knows  what exactly is going on.
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@sauravrungta ·
But then how do you define intelligence. A simple google of the term will tell you that intelligence is "the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills". Isn't that exactly what AI is doing? 

That is a different topic though. In this post I was talking about creativity and not intelligence necessarily.
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@re-engineer ·
<div class="pull-right"><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/bioephemera/2008/03/06/can-animals-create-art/"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/bioephemera/wp-content/blogs.dir/263/files/2012/04/i-9291a30163d8503d12808ffb02689e24-moja.jpg"></img></a><br><em>This peice created by Moja the chimp is one that (though sign language) he called 'Bird'</em></div>
I don't think that (despite the efforts of animal support/tech groups to capitalize on some animals being able to <a href="http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140723-are-we-the-only-creative-species">paint</a><sup>[1]</sup>, <a href="https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/not-bad-science/what-makes-bowerbirds-such-good-artists/">sculpt</a>, or <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2014/04/01/297686709/the-list-of-animals-who-can-truly-really-dance-is-very-short-who-s-on-it">dance<sup>[2]</sup></a>) most serious art aficionados don't believe that animals are actually able to create art even if they are doing it with all their hearts and souls. It may be that art is a function of human intelligence as much as creativity is a function of art, as determined by those who decide what is "art".<br>
With that in mind... perhaps non-humans can't create art simply because they aren't human.<br><br>

1. Speaking of Congo, a lab<a href="http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140723-are-we-the-only-creative-species"> chimp</a>:
<blockquote>
While he never painted identifiable images – no portraits, no landscapes, no still lifes – Congo's style was unironically described by some as "lyrical abstract impressionism". He seemed to have a sense of intention in his paintings, and a sense of coherence. If his paintings or brushes were taken away before he felt he was done, he whined until they were returned to him. If he had completed his work, he refused to continue painting even at Morris's prompting.
</blockquote>
<br>2. Dance in this article relies on the ability to co-ordinate movements with music
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