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Curation? What even is that I hear you cry? Well in the lead up to HF21 which quickly jumped to HF22 it caused a considerable split in our Active Steemians because post rewards percentage received reduced while the voter on the post gained a bigger percentage. To be precise

## What changes with HF 21?

> The split of author payout/curation reward changes from 75%/25% to 50%/50%, with the intention of increasing curation.

> When you vote on a high-quality post that receives a high payout, you earn more curation rewards than before. And because you receive a larger portion of the rewards if you vote before everyone else, it's beneficial if you actively look for good content and promote it.

> The time frame in which you receive fewer curation rewards is reduced from 15 minutes to 5 minutes, allowing you to vote almost immediately after reading a post.

[Source](https://www.steeve.app/@minnowbooster/hf-21-p2p-vote-selling-is-better-than-bot-delegation)

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## Spoiler it's all about upvoting posts

Breaking down curation to something I can understand...it's pretty simple - when you upvote a post you get a reward...based on the amount and value of votes AFTER you vote. What this means in real terms is you need to find posts that people will love and upvote - but you need to upvote before everyone else to get those sweet sweet curation rewards. You can't just scroll down Trending and upvote all the $50 plus posts that are days old - it might get you a token reward but it will not achieve the true potential of your Steem Power.

## Did you just say Steem Power

Yes, thanks for paying attention. Curation is directly linked to how much Steem Power you have, the more Steem you Power Up (stake) the bigger your curation rewards will be. So to earn from Curation you need to keep powering up your liquid Steem tokens to Steem Power, claiming your rewards as Steem Power and of course never, ever power down.

## That's easy for you to say - but can you actually back it up with FACTS

Actually I can. I might be a bluff old traditionalist with a penchant for roasting coffee, but I have backed up this post with extensive factual research - using actual science I have painstakingly logged how curation rewards differ for accounts with different Steem Power

## SCIENCE

At great personal cost, and utilising my single lonely brain cell I have been able to log using the amazing https://steemworld.org/@c0ff33a (@steemchiller is so hot right now - which is an oxymoron but you get what I'm trying to say...hopefully)  the various curation rewards of literally 4 of my accounts with different Steem Power levels. I can tell how impressed you all are by your long faeces.

## The actual SCIENCE

I was intending to do some amazing spreadsheet type graph thingy, but the single brain cell overheated and all I managed was a bit of flat text. Better then nothing right?

## Curation rewards experiment

First number is earnings, second number if present is the Staked Steem Power of the account

7 days results 15th October to 22nd

### Star lord 38.646 SP from 27,000 Steem Power

### c0ff33a 17.861 SP from 11,744 Steem Power

### The.lazy.panda 0.220 SP from 232 Steem Power

### Blue.panda 0.153 SP from 122 Steem Power

### coffeea.token 0.882 SP from 610 Steem Power

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22nd to 29th October

Star.lord - 56.352 SP

c0ff33a - 17.741 SP

Blue.panda - 0.139 SP

The.lazy.panda 0.334 SP

coffeea.token 0.882 SP

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2nd November to 9th

star.lord - 50.331 SP

c0ff33a - 22.772 SP

blue.panda 0.144 SP

coffeea.token 0.760 SP

the.lazy.panda 0.294 SP

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26th December to 3rd January

### star.lord 52.442 SP from 28,723 Steem Power   0.0018 per Steem Power

### c0ff33a - 26.254 SP from 20,328 Steem Power 0.0012 per Steem Power

### blue.panda - 0.188 SP from 164.69 Steem Power 0.0011 per Steem Power

### the.lazy.panda 0.323 SP from 235.47 Steem Power 0.0013 per Steem Power

### coffeea.token  1.817 Sp from 1651.41 Steem Power 0.0011 per Steem Power

![3l4mkd.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmPqaBJzoCPStwuSt6A2Fi4WHxYYu6X58nJPtzRLKqsUbB/3l4mkd.jpg)

## All I see is numbers - what does it actually mean?

SCIENCE! Or a lack of rather, because I forgot to log the staked Steem Power in the middle two results. I don't think it matters really - what you are looking at is the curation rewards achieved from 4 accounts each holding different amounts of Steem Power. The first block tells you the Steem Power held by each account, the last block shows any gains in Steem Power from Curation or increased delegation.

In the last block I break it down so you can see how much SP is being earned by each Steem Power the account holds. This is where it get's really interesting - @c0ff33a is my account obviously, and @blue.panda, @the.lazy.panda and @coffeea.token all trail it - so they are set to vote when my account votes. It makes sense therefore the actual SP earned per Steem Power held is the same for all - because they are voting on the same posts at the same time. This is logical.

![weirdscience.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRjQX76jqJAqBjBrCCMKXtURxC6CSDy8yaLvunro6zR5j/weirdscience.gif)

[source](https://giphy.com/gifs/weird-science-uEc82paHVlEZi)

What you would like to do is what @star.lord does - Guardian of the Galaxy! Now clearly this curation account of mine is leagues ahead of even my own account in curation earnings - but how does that work?

## CURATION - Did you miss the memo?

I have always voted with my @c0ff33a account with my heart, the posts I love and enjoy and I vote them when I find them - sometimes many days after posting. With the @star.lord curation account I deliberately took a different path, with the quote I started this post with - it is clear the vote period for HF22 moved to around 5 minutes - in fact playing around I think you are good to vote anywhere between 3 minutes from post creation and 5 minutes to get the best rewards. But to really understand what Curation Voting means we need to break it down into simple terms - something my one brain cell can compute.

## Curation - how it works (to my brain cell)

Now this is not financial advice, and I have no real proof it is how voting on the Steem Blockchain works. This is quite simply how I understand the way Curation Voting works. Ideally you vote on a post that you see is good quality and will get appreciated and upvoted to high value - but you must vote before the big value upvotes to get the best curation rewards. With HF22 the Curation Window moved to around 5 minutes - if you vote too early then most curation is burned - but from my testing voting between 3 and 5 minutes still gives a good curation reward. Now here is the kicker - when I mentioned to @enginewitty voting in 3 to 5 minutes would give better curation he said it was not long enough to read a long post and decide on how much vote to give! Which is a good point - but then the actual mechanic of voting goes beyond randomly voting hoping a post you upvote will get good rewards - getting a vote in early works well IF YOU KNOW THE POST WILL GET BIG UPVOTES - if you have a crystal ball, know the Gypsy Steem post gazer Bernard or have the Almanac from Back to the Future then you are going to do fine. If you don't, there is a more sensible way - you keep looking though New Posts trying to spot that Golden Nugget of a post that will do well and get big upvotes - then you vote and wait for all the following Whale votes to give you those Golden curation rewards.

## It's more complicated then that

In reality Curation rewards go far beyond just trying to vote on a post within 5 minutes of it's creation hoping (or assuming) it will get big votes after you vote.

Countless times I have found a post a day or two old that is really excellent but just a few cents in rewards - because I like the content I upvote it and resteem it to raise awareness. Next thing I know - someone has realised it's great quality and it's getting big upvotes - and my curation rewards go through the roof. 

Just like creating your own posts - you can't just make a post and sit hoping someone finds it - you have to create the post and sell it - share it everywhere you can, drop it in every discord and comment on your friends posts (don't drop post links in comments because nobody likes that - just leave a comment most people will check the blog of someone who comment s on their posts) to promote. With curation it is almost the exact same - find the post you think people will like - upvote it and then sell that post for the creator - because it does you maybe as much or more in rewards then it will them.

## TL;DR

Your Staked Steem Power can earn you rewards without making a single post, upvote at the right time and you can earn curation rewards that increase based on your Stake Steem Power.

The time you vote is critical - since HF22 voting between 3 and 5 minutes after a post was created will get you the best rewards IF the post get's big upvotes after you vote.

You can find missed posts a day or two old, vote them when they have little rewards and then share the hell out of them so they get more upvotes after you and increase your curation rewards that way.


## Curation - it's a game

I started this post saying that, and it is also how I will end it. Curation can be whatever you make it, as a challenge you can totally max out your rewards by voting at the right percentage at the right time on a post that get's big rewards after you vote it. How you vote, what you vote, when you vote - everything makes a difference. 

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@c0ff33a ·
No, they are more into Tea at the moment!
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@hangin ·
Interesting points thanks for all that info very helpful indeed 👍 

And Happy New Year to you and family 🍷 🍷
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@c0ff33a ·
Thank you very much, happy new year to you as well.
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@hangin ·
Your most welcome my friend 👍
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@nickyhavey ·
If there were no autovotes going on then the curation game has great potential to be very exciting. I have seen whale accounts saying they give the "best curation rewards" but you look at Steemworld and they vote 1000+ accounts each week averaging between 3-20 minutes, no more, no less. 

There's no way these people are sitting at the new post page, constantly refreshing, reading and upvoting/commenting on posts and so the flaw with these curation rewards comes from big accounts setting up autovoting everything at 3-20 minutes without reading them.

The real curation in my view should be based on comments/resteem as well as upvoting. Otherwise, it's just a bit "old steem" isn't it?

But I have found posts after a day without any rewards, shared them in curation guilds and they got picked up by bigger accounts and I had 160% rewards or something like that so it doesn't matter too much about the 5-20 minutes window 
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@c0ff33a ·
I agree it would be good to have the upvote mechanism built into the comment box, so you have to comment in order to upvote - that would mix things up a bit. Of course the response will be auto voters will just use auto comments to get passed it - and then we end up with a Blockchain bunged up with spam comments.

I absolutely agree with you about finding posts a day or two old with few rewards, voting them and then getting them attention to improve the votes and then you earn from the curation. It's a great way to earn from curation - and get good quality posts seen more too. The 3 to 5 minutes does mean you can literally scroll your feed or new even - find the great posts to upvote and you will earn if others find them after you. My feeling for writing this post was many people don't really know when the curation window is any more, don't really understand the concept and are loosing out on the earning potential of their own Steem Power because of it.
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@ninahaskin ·
@tipu curate
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@c0ff33a ·
Aaaaahhhh I like what you did there, this actually works exactly the same for @tipu ranking - if you want to climb the ranks you have to use the curate vote early on a post that then trends and get's massive votes afterwards. Thank you kindly 🤗 I always appreciate your kind support of me.
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@ninahaskin ·
It's the least I can do to thank you for the phenomenal work you do supporting the Steemit platform as witness! @c0ff33a👍
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@tipu ·
<a href="https://tipu.online/curator?ninahaskin" target="_blank">Upvoted &#128076;</a> (Mana: 0/3 - <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@tipu/tipu-curate-project-update-recharging-curation-mana" target="_blank">need recharge</a>?)
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@ninahaskin ·
Thanks for the detailed, excellent information!

I quickly looked into my crystal ball on this post and predict it's going to be a winner! @c0ff33a 💫🔮🤞
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@saffisara ·
Amazing post and much Great info and clearly explains about voting and curating, I honestly needed this 😁 lol
Well written and Thank you for sharing this and always helps and explains things easily. 
I appriciate You my friend 🤗🤗🤗🌸
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@saffisara ·
!giphy Thank+you
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@thebigsweed ·
Thanks for the very valuable information. I'm going to read it a second time to see if I can get a clearer picture of everything you mention in this post. I may even need to take a couple of notes. 
The one thing that I totally agree with you on is the fact that you need to engage others, show interest in what they have to share.
For many people, I think this is a very hard thing to do. 
It's kind of like being a good listener, they are far and few between.
Most people would rather talk than listen.
The same is true with posts, most people would rather have their words read, then read the words of others.

Have a good weekend!
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@c0ff33a ·
Very good point, I think many have joined here to create content only. The problem is it's going to get pretty boring with everybody creating stuff and nobody looking at it. With curation you can earn well just for timing your post upvotes right, you don't have to vote in the first few minutes - just get your vote in before big votes follow. So you can find posts that are really good a day or so old with low rewards - vote it and then share it so hopefully it get's hit by a curation team that takes the post reward really high - then you earn a much bigger curation reward for your efforts.
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@thebigsweed ·
Thanks for the advice, greatly appreciated.
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@trendotoken ·
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@yousafharoonkhan ·
it is very much informative, but i have a question, we should upvote with 100 power to best content or we can use any level of upvote to get curation reward if we find any post early.
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@c0ff33a ·
The upvote percentage does not make a difference in earnings - you just will get rewards proportional to your upvote. You don't have to vote posts early either - ideally you need to vote before the big votes come in on a post - so you can vote on older posts with few rewards that you know are good - and then share them around and try to get bigger votes after you to earn. Or you vote in 3 to 5 minutes on authors you know get high rewards - trying to get your vote in before the big ones arrive so you get the extra curation rewards.
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