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I'm Trying to Support Hive but Whales are Downvoting Me by cryptofinally

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· @cryptofinally ·
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I'm Trying to Support Hive but Whales are Downvoting Me
I've been having a really hard time on Twitter lately, as many of you who are on that platform have seen. I am aware that I've taken a break from posting daily on Hive, I have every intention of being active in the Hive community & do not want anybody to doubt that! 

In every interview I do, I always advocate for Hive. I have Hive branding in all of my videos and livestreams across platforms. I hope that you guys saw my conversation with Charles Hoskinson recently about Hive too. Guys, I really really  want to be here with you.

It's been very difficult for me to post on social media generally lately. Hive is not the only platform that I've neglected. I'm sorry that I haven't been here more often, and I have every intention of jumping back into the swing of things. I've been struggling a lot with keeping up on social media recently because of the hate that Twitter can bring, it's not  so easy to be on the receiving end of CryptoTwitter. 

I have been trying to be more active on Hive, and I see that the community is supportive of me, it means the world to me to be apart of such an inclusive space (unlike some of the stuff I see on other platforms). I have always advocated for Hive being an inclusive and kinder than other social medias, as I feel like you've truly invited me in. 

Recently I've been noticing that my rewards payouts are disappearing overnight, and then I saw that many of the whales on here have been downvoting me. You can see that on my announcement where I was nominated as Influencer of the Year by Binance, as well as my recent Cointelegraph article about how me and @coruscate were banned from Instagram. I advocate for Hive in that post, and get excited to move over here, but it was still downvoted by whales. I'm sad to see that this kind of negative spirit be translated on to this platform, and I hope that this community can remain a positive and safe space for all of us to contribute. 

Thanks to everyone who supports me on here, I'm really really excited to start getting back into Hive, lets do this friends <3 

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@a1-shroom-spores ·
Im scared to comment because you obviously have people obsessively hating you.

That being said there is this weird hate on Hive for people making "influencer" or "social media" type posts. Even if they are high quality. Meanwhile big accounts from coders post a single meme or something and get 50 hive payouts.

We should accept social media posts especially when peakd/hive.blog is a monetized blog site not a witness/code sharing site.
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@cryptofinally ·
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The fact that you are scared to comment indicates that Hive needs change.
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@a1-shroom-spores ·
I've seen a lot worse content that earns a lot more. I think you should keep blogging. :) You have a nice long written post thats not plagiarized and a nice picture of yourself that isnt plagiarized. 
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@hans001 ·
Yeah!! That's what I also wanted to say. .. Someone gets 40 dollars daily on a generic post with some graphics another just post a pile of shit... And get votes from 'somewhere' it isn't way not isn't by far balanced out. I sometimes spend hours and hours on a posts I spend days on changing old posts... because they are steem posts not hive... do I get 40 dollars on posts? It isn't about that it's the power of some guys has that can change the chain in a drunk or bad day... with great power comes big responsibility... And I see around me that a lot of people need to see the bigger picture. Buttt if people want to play the the knight in armour saying yeah it's not ok let those people downvote other whales misusing their power that way too... And upvote those who are abused by other whales... And downvote those whales who misuse their power... Buttt that is something that never would happen. But maybe I... don't see the bigger picture.... 
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@apshamilton · (edited)
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Your work for crypto and Hive is genuinely appreciated but its important to understand that downvoting is part of the Hive system that keeps it a civilised place.

Those downvoting you have explained their reasons and you should take this as constructive criticism.

I have upvoted you, but I respect the right of others to have a different opinion.
You are still earning well on your posts.

Its part of the beauty of Hive that there are a variety of opinions on everything, including the value of particular content and that this is true of the whale level too.

A downvote is not a personal attack (unlike the vile behaviour that centralised social media encourages). It is just an adjustment of the reward pool distribution.
Please do not equate a downvote with a horrible personal attack on Twitter. They are not the same at all.
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@cryptofinally ·
Please read through the comments before telling me not to equate a downvote with a personal attack. It is most certainly a personal attack, and that is clear to anyone looking in on this thread. This is incredibly disappointing to see from the Hive community.
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@apshamilton ·
While some of the comments from the person downvoting you could be construed as a personal attack, a downvote itself is not.

The proper response to a personal attack is to downvote it.
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@aussieninja ·
Does anyone know the reason for the downvotes?
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@xxxxxxxxxx ·
Her content sucks?  Her ref links are 3x the length of her posts?  She's a paid shill?  Is that good enough reason?
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@cryptofinally ·
Why are you treating content creators who want to start on Hive this way?
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@beerlover ·
<div class='pull-right'>https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/beerlover/yiuU6bdf-beerlover20gives20BEER.gif<p><sup><a href='https://hive-engine.com/?p=market&t=BEER'>View or trade </a> <code>BEER</code>.</sup></p></div><center><br> <p> Hey @cryptofinally, here is a little bit of <code>BEER</code> from @teenagecrypto for you. Enjoy it!</p> <p>Learn how to <a href='https://peakd.com/beer/@beerlover/what-is-proof-of-stake-with-beer'>earn <b>FREE BEER</b> each day </a> by staking your <code>BEER</code>.</p> </center><div></div>
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@beerlover ·
<div class='pull-right'>https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/beerlover/yiuU6bdf-beerlover20gives20BEER.gif<p><sup><a href='https://hive-engine.com/?p=market&t=BEER'>View or trade </a> <code>BEER</code>.</sup></p></div><center><br> <p> Hey @cryptofinally, here is a little bit of <code>BEER</code> from @cryptobrewmaster for you. Enjoy it!</p> <p>Learn how to <a href='https://peakd.com/beer/@beerlover/what-is-proof-of-stake-with-beer'>earn <b>FREE BEER</b> each day </a> by staking your <code>BEER</code>.</p> </center><div></div>
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@comandoyeya ·
Hola, yo pienso que en esta gran plataforma no se trata de competir, si no de interactuar, para de esa manera crecer en todo sentido, para no ser tan vulnerable y estar expuesto a contradicciones sociales, gracias por compartir, saludos.
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@cryptobrewmaster ·
!BEER for you 
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@enginewitty · (edited)
Keep doing you sweets, who cares what anyone else thinks, you gotta run with your passion.
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@cryptofinally ·
Thank you! I really want to be more active on Hive and contribute more. It's just hard to navigate when the main stakeholders are going out of their way to try and prevent me from participating. The comments that were left on this post by a certain whale are pretty telling, and I don't know how much of that I can subject myself to.
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@enginewitty ·
We should talk on a different channel, maybe we can help each other πŸ€—
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@hans001 ·
Hi maybe you could be more influencing... because actions of some individuals in the past hurt the hive ecosystem I would advise a board of people who will overrule these kind of actions by any means necessary before it gets out of hand. This to protect hive not the individuals (The bigger picture) I have a muscle deciese some time now and was sick the last few weeks. 
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@enginewitty ·
That is the problem in itself, it is ran by individuals and the ones with the most stake have the most say. One can say it is decentralized, but that is a very shallow argument. Glad you feeling better tho!
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@guiltyparties ·
Posting on Hive is about benefiting Hive as an ecosystem. If you're excited about Hive and are posting good quality original content posts then I doubt anyone will object with downvotes. If you are not, of course many will.
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@artemislives ·
Original content benefitting the ecosystem.  Nailed it. 

!ENGAGE 50
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@cryptofinally ·
I don't mind many downvotes, if thats the consensus so be it. I mind 100s of upvotes and 2 downvotes that deplete all of my rewards on every post.
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@guiltyparties ·
$0.02
People will always have a difference of opinion. Someone I didn't know was downvoting me for months last year. Your posts are a lot of referrals and not much about Hive. Try a post that's purely focused on Hive and see how that goes.
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@joshman ·
$0.09
>  all of my rewards 

This is a common misconception people have.  They are not your rewards until the bidding period has completed.
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@misterengagement ·
<center>  Thank you for your engagement on this post, you have recieved <code>ENGAGE</code> tokens.</center>
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@hiro-hive ·
$0.05
I think this is how decentralised free market social media works. We can't control people over their stake behavior because #Hive is open market and people have their own biased opinion. In my opinion, it is better to ignore the downvotes. 

As time passes by, we can see the true value of our post using the wisdom of the crowd. At least, no one can remove your account here. We will continue supporting you here and #Twitter. Cheers πŸ―β€πŸš€
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@hivebuzz ·
Congratulations @cryptofinally! You have completed the following achievement on the Hive blockchain and have been rewarded with new badge(s) :

<table><tr><td><img src="https://images.hive.blog/60x60/http://hivebuzz.me/badges/topcommentedday.png"></td><td>Your post generated a lot of interactions and was the most commented of the day</td></tr>
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@hotsauceislethal ·
Hey there friend, keep up the posts. As long as youre still earning a pretty decent amount who cares about a few downvotes. Ignoring them and persisting is usually the best strategy. 

My personal advice is to just stop feeding the trolls. Giving attention to negative energy only gives it more fuel. Focus in positivity and block out the rest of the noise! Ill give you three upvotes now haha
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@idkpdx ·
$1.78
I took a quick look at your page and I can understand why the downvotes are happening. Please take this as constructive criticism and not me attacking you. Your page comes off as very spammy because of the footer you use that is all about self-promotion. It makes every post look the same and doesn't offer a benefit to the community. One reason for downvoting is disagreement on rewards which I could also understand why someone doesn't think the rewards you are getting are deserved. There are lots of content creators who put in the time and hard work to make content to share and their work goes unnoticed. I would encourage you to put more information that could benefit others and not just make it about yourself. Take care now. 
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@apshamilton ·
$0.04
@cryptofinally, I just checked your comments and you have barely engaged on Hive at all. Your only comments are on your own posts.
If you want people to take you seriously as a Hivean you need to engage on other people's posts.
You can start with mine :-)
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@cryptofinally ·
Alternatively, I can stop posting to Hive all together, this has been an incredibly negative experience for me.
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@hamismsf ·
$0.03
I agree about the footer.
@cryptofinally its important to understand that Hive is not like other social media. 
Its OK to have some small promotion of your other activities but a standard footer on every post blatantly promoting your work on other platforms is not OK.
It takes people off Hive and onto other platforms.
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@cryptofinally ·
I could just not post at all.
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@wedacoalition ·
I didnt know we tell people how they should use their account....?
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@xxxxxxxxxx ·
She has nothing to talk about but herself.  She knows literally nothing about crypto and is nothing more than a paid (whiny) shill.
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@niallon11 ·
$0.49
Seriously. She is one of the few recognised voices in crypto that is advocating the use of hive as a media platform.

Why do you think it's a good idea to drive away people that can actually promote the platform and bring more users in. Increase engagement and drive up the token value. 

Her content is original and she has a large crypto following. It might not always be to your tastes but down voting people like her is shooting yourself in the foot as a large stakeholder. 

We should be encouraging more people to join and increase our visabilty. Think long term adoption for the whole system instead of your short term vision. 

Please for the sake of hive. Stop driving away active users. The more people that we have adding original content and sharing it to their audience, the better it is for all of us.

We really don't have an huge user base and unless a person is plagerising or farming I would ask you to please not attack them but to help them instead. 

Quality is subjective and for me a person that can drive views and engagement is adding good quality content. 
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@tngflx · (edited)
I wonder you didn't say the samething about justineh ridiculous approved proposal. Didn't see you call her out there.
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@jarvie ·
$0.07
You could find a way to focus on tips... that is not a community decision that is the decision of one person and can not be impacted by anyone else. Rewards are not actually yours until the full 7 days of voting (up and down) is concluded. 
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@joshman ·
$0.20
It's kind of like an auction, you put your posts up for bidding.  If someone thinks they are over-valued, they downvote.  If they are undervalued, they upvote.  This is about as crypto as you can get.  Try not to take it personally.
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@layde ·
Good 
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@nathanmars ·
> I hope that you guys saw my conversation with Charles Hoskinson recently about Hive too. Guys, I really really want to be here with you.

Thank you Rachel. 

I’m so excited to thrive on Hive together. 

Please DM me on Twitter if you ever need anything anytime 
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@cryptofinally ·
I'm starting to reconsider this now that I'm seeing how hateful some of these whales can be. I love Hive, but there is only so much I can put myself through for the sake of social media.
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@nathanmars ·
Always try focus on the good.
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@urun ·
wow thats so retarded. You really cry because some of your expected rewards are lower?
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@paragism ·
Downvote is a mechanism to remove rewards from a non deserving content. For example, your selfies don't deserve 50$ and people may downvote if they think you are earning more than you deserve. 
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@poshbot ·
https://twitter.com/dick_turpin/status/1305879365884968963
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@potta ·
Those freaking whales!
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@stellabelle ·
$0.22
I don't like confrontation but the reality as far as my opioion goes is: whales attacking a well-known crypto influencer is bad for Hive, bad for business, and bad for the entire Hive ecosystem as well as the entire crypto ecosystem. The question for me always is this: why is the energy being directed in such a negative way towards @cryptofinally?

I am not on anyone's side, but I do recognize one thing: none of us will EVER agree or like EVERYONE. This situation is about maturity, and the ability to let people be. I don't go around and ruin people's parties on Hive just because I disagree with their opinions, content and philosophy. I let them be. 

And in fact, @cryptofinally has brought people to Hive, so attacking her is like throwing away a lot of the hard work, energy and momentum that a lot of us have achieved on Twitter and on here. One of her tweets about Hive generated the most replies and traction that ANY hive tweet generated. By attacking her, you are throwing away that energy.
 
Hive needs users, and people who are visible to bring in more users. This is just business sense. 

@cryptofinally, many of us have been attacked by Bernie, myself included. I had the same reaction as you and it does suck. When it happened to me, many years ago, I just made the decision to persist, despite being downvoted. I would suggest you do the same. 

Even though I am not your fan as I don't really like selfies and how you exploit your body to gain your following, I recognize that the world is a place where differences exist, and people are different. I am tolerant, as I believe the world needs more tolerance, not less. 

Bernie: I think the verbal attacks should stop. That kind of stuff does a lot more damage than I think you realize. This is business, and we are all involved. I see your vicious attacks as damaging both to people and to business. Is it possible that you can just let people alone whom you don't like or disagree with? Is that possible? 

Attacking people who are influential (whether you like them or not) is a bad look for all us.
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@tngflx ·
We should fork out bernie stake as what we did with steemit inc. That should teach him a lesson. Hive is an example witnesses are able to fork out whomever they want. We should fork out bad actors too. Hes no different than steemit inc. Using his stake to abuse people for years. We should really start considering abusive whales to be forked out. 
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@teenagecrypto ·
Take a !BEER 
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@urdreamscometrue ·
>I have been trying to be more active on Hive, and I see that the community is supportive of me,

Going to support you too✌️

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@tipu ·
<a href="https://tipu.online/hive_curator?urdreamscometrue" target="_blank">Upvoted  &#128076;</a> (Mana: 6/21)
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@urun ·
feel free to leave Hive
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@woelfchen ·
$0.15
that's just bernie :D
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