How Can You Be So Self-Centered to Consistently Artificially Upvote Your Own Posts for Hundreds of Dollars? by daan

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blog · @daan · Feb 27 '19

$2.85

How Can You Be So Self-Centered to Consistently Artificially Upvote Your Own Posts for Hundreds of Dollars?

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Look, I don't like calling people out, but there's been one particular Steemian whose posts have been appearing on the Trending page for months, without them deserving to be on it in my opinion.

I'm not going to mention any names here, but if you have been watching the Trending page, you'll probably know who I'm talking about by reading the rest of this post.

The point of this post is to bring this type of behavior to everyone's attention. I feel that it's incredibly self-centered to consistently want your own personal blog posts on the trending page, just by throwing enough money at bid bots.

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## Self-Help Crap
The Steemian I'm talking about has been posting blogs that I would categorize under *self-help content*. Some people might benefit from reading his posts, but to me it's largely one big circle-jerk that's only being posted to inflate his own ego.

His writing style isn't too bad, but the topics he writes about have no place on the trending page in my opinion. A quick examination of his comment section immediately shows you that most commenters are low-reputation Steemians with poor English skills, who think they can appease him enough to get an upvote in return.

## Consistent Use of Upvote Bots
As long as upvote bots exist, I can understand that some people use them to bring important posts to the attention of the larger Steem community. I'd rather have that these upvote bots don't exist, but if they're used sparsely on posts that deserve to be seen, I can live with it.

That said, to use them consistently for upvoting your own personal blog posts that do not contribute anything to Steem is a complete no-go for me. It just reeks of egotistical behavior, as if the author feels like his posts have to bee seen by everyone who's visiting the Steemit.com website.

## Tagging Everyone
Yet another pet-peeve of mine that one particular person likes to use: tagging everyone at the bottom of every post. Sorry, but even if you have an opt-out clause, it's just bad behavior and shows that you're incredibly self-centered.

Mentioning this means that you probably all know who I'm talking about, because as far as I know, there's only one person who's doing this consistently. There's no reason to tag every one of your fans on **every** post you write. The only reason for doing this is to prevent negative ROI from all the money you spend on upvote bots, at least that's how I see it. This sort of bad behavior needs to be called out!

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Sorry for being so worked up about this, but it's just incredibly annoying to see the same sort of posts over and over again on that trending page. This isn't what proof-of-brain is about and it's actively destroying outsiders perception of Steem.

Isn't the point of Steem to let the community decide which posts are worth it to be on the trending page? I know that it's very difficult to combat general collusion, but allowing people to game the system by using bid bots consistently is just throwing oil on the fire.

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@anouk.nox · Feb 27 '19

$0.03

Lol, I know exactly who you mean, I think we even talked about it once months ago.. It's super annoying and I feel the same way.. It has been very lucrative for that person btw..

👍 daan

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@daan · Feb 27 '19

Has it really been that lucrative for him? I almost can't believe that people would upvote him after they see he's spent hundreds of dollars promoting his posts.

👍 anouk.nox

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@anouk.nox · Feb 27 '19

Check steemworld ;)

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@beautifulbullies · Feb 27 '19

Maybe the 'trending' page should be renamed? to something more appropriate like... I don't know... 'Faking'? lol

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@bengy · Feb 27 '19

$0.04

I'm always surprised to see that he hasn't been taken down by one of the whales in a flag war... it irks me that they are all that sort of self help malarky as well... ah well, I guess that's why I'm not looking at trending these days... it just makes me angry... 

... on the other hand... as a bid-bot user... I'm on shaky moral ground here... however, I only every throw a couple of steem at them, not quite on the order of 100's!

👍 daan

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@daan · Feb 27 '19

Oh he will not get caught up in a flag *war*, because he'll never flag anyone back. Maybe that's part of the reason why he doesn't get flagged anymore, I don't know. 

Oh I still think you're well within your right to comment. A couple of Steem spent on bid bots doesn't bother me personally, though I wonder if it's actually profitable?

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@bengy · Feb 27 '19

I figure it is more of a lottery.... 0.1 Steem here and there for a chance to get a small bonus or a loss... It's also a way of converting the liquid coins to SP whilst getting a little exposure.

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@bigtom13 · Feb 27 '19

$0.09

I think there is some good news in all this.  I think those of us who have stuck and are staying are getting good and full of boorish behavior from some of the whales.  

I just almost never look at trending.  I average less than one peek per month.  Generally for something or someone specific.  For me, it's already gone.

Thanks Daan.

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@daan · Feb 27 '19

$0.05

I should probably stop looking at the Trending page as well, it's just that I do tend to find at least one good article there every day. Sad that people have to use bots to get it there though.

👍 ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@bozz · Feb 27 '19

$0.09

Yeah, it can get pretty annoying.  Especially so when we are here grinding away putting out decent content that barely ever scratches the surface.  You are more than legitimate in your venting and I don't fault you for it one bit.  Maybe one day they will move on to the next thing and thing and this behavior will go away.

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@daan · Feb 27 '19

I'd been thinking about writing a post like this for a long time, that's for sure :D

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@captainklaus · Feb 27 '19

$0.03

A reflection of the real world that is dominated by manipulation to satisfy greed. For a society, it's one of the biggest questions how to deal with those who are greedy, usually psychopaths. In our real world, they become the rulers, which is the worst. Here on steem they might be ignored (don't look at trending); in the very long run, they might disappear...

👍 daan

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@d0zer · Feb 27 '19

$0.27

The trending page is useless but also shows you whats wrong with this place.

👍 steembasicincome, cheneats

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@haikubot · Feb 27 '19

<em>The trending page is 
Useless but also shows you 
Whats wrong with this place. 
</em>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<sup>- d0zer</sup>

---
<sup><sup><em>I'm a bot. I detect haiku.</em></sup></sup>

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@esteemapp · Feb 27 '19

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@gregan · Feb 27 '19

$0.04

I once bought some steem but it's because of this guy/girl/it I'll never do it again tbh.

It's basically a red flag for me.

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)

👍 daan

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@daan · Feb 27 '19

Really? It shouldn't stop you from buying Steem, there's tons of other ways to use it, besides using it on bid bots.

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@partiko · Feb 28 '19

Thank you so much for participating in the Partiko Delegation Plan Round 1! We really appreciate your support! As part of the delegation benefits, we just gave you a 3.00% upvote! Together, let’s change the world!

👍 abusereports
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@self-track · Mar 2 '19

Maybe we should just co-ordinate a comment attack on discord, stuff the flags..... 

E.G....

'Dear sir, you have upvoted your post to a laughable value (it made me chuckle, honestly!)

But seriousLY, I don't think your posts are generally worth £200, neither does anyone else on this platform. You're just making yourself look stupid by self-voting them to such an over-inflated value. 

The majority of steemians have no respect for you as a result. You're really not doing yourself any favours, and all for the sake of a few dollars. It's time to stop now."

I've actually seen him in the audience of some of @pennsif's steem shows, so he does keep an eye on this stuff.

👍 anouk.nox

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@anouk.nox · Mar 2 '19

Lol, great idea :-) wonder what kind of comment you'd get for that, and if you'd be added to his tags every post :)

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@slobberchops · Feb 27 '19

$0.08

'Course we know who you mean @daan, it's @steevc's best mate.., he's a rather big lad and we cant do much about him. He's not going to change either.

...me.. I don't even look at Trending..  SteemInc, need to remove that.. 'Look at Trending for the hottest content'..  blurb that all new users see.. but again they don't listen.

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@daan · Feb 27 '19

$0.09

Was it that obvious :o? Just kidding, I know it was. The only thing I can hope for is for people to stop giving him the attention he so desperately wants. 

Like I mentioned in my post, it's not that his writing is so bad, but it's just very generic content. Should get more than 20 dollars (IMO).

👍 slobberchops, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@slobberchops · Feb 27 '19

$0.09

Its not bad, its not spam or crap.. I guessed who it was before the second clue was revealed., but its grossly overvalued. Due to how this Eco-system works, we cant do a thing.. except not look.

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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1 reply

@steem-ua · Feb 27 '19

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@tattoodjay · Feb 28 '19

I have to admit I stopped looking at the trending page a long while back and mostly for all the reasons you mentioned

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@teutonium · Feb 27 '19

> but to me it's largely one big circle-jerk that's only being posted to inflate his own ego.

That's why the flagging option exists, I hate those circle jerks and bidbots users, I would rather get the STEEM and power up. Those "Steemians" that are using bidbots to upvote their posts in order to outshine all the other content creators don't deserve the engagement they get... The trending page is useless! There are small minnows making less than 1$ that deserve those rewards much more then those assholes do! It's one thing to use a bid bot for promoting dapps like drug wars or magic dice, it's another thing to upvote their own content. And to promote dapps one doesn't really need a bidbot, just pay the big steemians yourself instead of going through a bid bot!

I haven't seen 1 good argument pro-bidbots, and imo all bidbots should be banned by the community...we just need a big account with enough SP to flag all the rewards that the bidbots make.

Regarding the tagging, I think I've only been tagged once in those tag spammers posts and it was for a contest so I don't really mind tbh...

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@thesteemengine · Mar 3 '19

$0.05

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