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· @edicted · (edited)
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Market Watch: Wen Uptrend?
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#### Wen though?
Finally back from my two-week long extended vacation from the Internet.  I was thinking maybe when I get back we'll be on our way to moonville, but alas that was clearly wishful thinking.  It's also a bit early for that as the plan has been to simply wait until mid April before reassessing the situation.  Until then the downtrend is still fully intact. 


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### Thanks for nothing: MEXC
Once again MEXC decided it was a great idea to "add new features" to their website, and in doing so deleted all the lines I had drawn previously.  This is the second time it's happened and it's beyond annoying.  So today I decided to just redraw the important ones:

* Horizontal milestones at $72k and $100k. 
* Liquidity void range of $77k to $85k.
* MA(200) uptrend lines. 
* Descending wedge downtrend. 

#### Still stuck in the downtrend.
It's no secret that the price is still crabbing inside of the liquidity void I've been talking about for the last six weeks.  Interestingly enough the half-point at $81k seems to be proving itself as a support line which I find to be reassuring that a bottom is being forged.  I still very much believe that we have either already hit the bottom or just have one more panic dip to go.  One more dip seems more likely than not but I won't be betting on it.  Any price point underneath the liquidity void ($72k-$77k) is a screaming buy and completely oversold. 

https://x.com/TraderMercury/status/1906720915095757018

Then I see tweet like this showing that stocks might be in for some trouble as well.  The macro economy is not looking great, and it hasn't looked great for a while.  Crypto traders take this as a bad sign, but I don't.  Bitcoin is already close to a decoupling point with the stock market.  I'd actually like to see the stock market crumple like 30% and get wrecked.  Yes, crypto would probably bleed a lot in the short term but it would decouple very quickly and recover almost immediately... while the stock market could take a year or two before getting back to its former glory.  

Parallel to this idea is a reminder that the 4-year cycle is MUCH stronger than anything the legacy economy can throw at us.  BTC crashed 50% in a day when COVID started in March.  What happened next?  It went x10 over the next nine months (and made a full x2 recovery from the dip in 3 weeks).  A COVID level nuke of the market should be welcomed as number can only go up after such a thing happens.  I don't think it will happen but it's always on the table as these things are never predictable. 

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#### Luckily crypto is not akin to software development. 
I think the worst that can happen at this point is that the summer rally I'm expecting is a bit of a bust and we just keep crabbing into October.  That would be really annoying and downright demoralizing.  

### Death crosses boo! 
We can see the latest death cross happened a couple days ago with the MA(25) crossing under the MA(200).  That being said the affect of this event has been quite muted, further signaling that we may have already bottomed after filling the CME gap fully at $77k.  

The only problem I'm seeing is that Bitcoin has a pattern of continuing to trade under the MA(200) for a while after it starts.  So far it's only been a month... so we may be fated to spend another couple months getting batted down.  Hopefully not because "four year cycle strong".  We'll have a much better indication once we get into "sell in May and go away" territory.  If we aren't trending higher than the 200 daily moving average come May there's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed. 

What I can say with almost absolute certainty is that if and when all 4 of those moving average are close to one another and somewhat crabbing together this is a clear signal of strength and stability.  This is an indicator I've made a lot of money on with x5 longs.    Of course it would take another month or two of crab for such a thing to happen, leading me to believe that it won't.  

### Astrology Shenanigans
The planet retrogrades end in mid April (Mercury and Venus), and our last full moon was a blood moon eclipse (which often signals some kind of pivot in the market).  The downtrend also hits the key support lines in mid April, and so everything has been pointing at mid April for a while. 

Now that we've dipped back into the liquidity void, market sentiment has also dropped significantly.  There's a huge percentage of the industry wondering if $110k was the top.  This is exactly where we want to be, as anyone should be able to recall that in previous cycles a normal 30% retracement was never greeted with this kind of pessimistic outlook.  It's not possible for the market to get caught off guard when we aren't overleveraged and everyone is asking if this is the top.  The more fear we see the better. 

#### Conclusion
Price action has been pretty boring lately but you'd never know that by looking at all the panic we see on social media.  Nobody wants to wait for blue skies but that's exactly what needs doing.  Within the next month we should have some indication as to whether we'll get that summer rally or not.  Either way we still have the better part of a year to allow the 4-year cycle to play itself out.   
Keep calm and carry on. 

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@acesontop ·
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This doesn’t look like a bull market to me anymore. I don’t know how 2017 was but 2021 was so different. As a matter of fact it all started going parabolic in 2020…
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@edicted ·
Hm that's kind of the point they all look different and they all find a way to trick people into thinking it's over.  The 2021 cycle is the worst cycle to look at as a comparison because of COVID.  That event created an artificial situation where the economy was shutdown but they were printing money out of thin air to make up for it.  


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Show me on the chart where you think it's appropriate to call the end of a bull market.  
Literally the only metric that has ever worked is at the end of the four year cycle;
specifically November 2025/2021/2017/2013.  Go look on the chart for yourself. 

Calling the top after a 25% dip even though we're getting worldwide institutional adoption just kind of blows my mind.
There has been no liquidity event.  
Interest rates are trending downwards after the fastest hikes we've seen in decades. 

And also bear markets only last 12 months. If you actually think this is a bear market then we are already a quarter of the way through it until getting another 3 more years of up.  Also alts haven't done anything so I guess this will be the first bull market where Bitcoin just wins and everything else eats shit?  I strongly doubt it. 

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@alohaed ·
With the current turmoil, markets will take some time to establish a new equilibrium. 
There appears to be some discernible patterns with Hive prices between April through October. 
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@aussieninja ·
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I am curious that if the tariff situation in the US wreaks the stock market, but also shoots up inflation for everyone and retail investors have to take their stock and crypto investments out just to pay the bills. I just have no idea how to predict the next few years/forever. 
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@bozz ·
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Demoralizing is the nicest way I can think of putting it...  It's going to be pretty miserable.  I will wait it out either way.  Not much else to do at this point.
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@edicted ·
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We'll be fine it's just a matter of waiting for them to turn the money printer on.
They need a pretty good excuse when inflation isn't 2%. 
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@bozz ·
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@fredaig ·
Everything is stil intact like you never left 😀 am absolutely still waiting to see changes  towards Easter 
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@geneeverett · (edited)
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Hey! And welcome back! 

Remember you telling me I was wrong about crypto 2025 when I said 98% or tokens won’t touch the 2021 highs?  You still that confident?
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@edicted ·
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The last time we had this conversation you were determined to lose a very large bet when Hive was at the literal bottom.  One that you would have certainly lost during the spike to 60+. You were legit offering me free money and I didn't take it because I didn't want you to be salty af (I already have experience with this from the previous cycle). 

I fail to see why the current circumstances we are in would change the prediction or waiver the faith in the slightest bit.  There has been no liquidity event.  Bitcoin is still trapped in a unit-bias liquidity vortex. Most of the year's gains can always be relegated down to a couple weeks of "parabolic" action. Nothing has changed. 

The only conclusion I can draw here is people being like "well we got a huge spike in March 2021 so it must be so over".  The 2021 run is the worst anchor-point to make comparisons.  That cycle was an extreme outlier for a lot of different reasons, but it's not obvious on the charts yet because there is so little data available on the 4-year cycle. 

The appropriate time to ask this question is November 2025. 
Until then everything is just noise. 

#### P.S.
I don't remember mocking you.
You "deleted" that sentiment but blockchain is annoying like that as well. 
I guess no one likes being told that they're falling for the same trap that everyone falls for every single cycle.
I myself still have time to get added to the list. 
Generational wealth will continue to be fumbled. 
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@geneeverett · (edited)
That ego man.   I’d be winning that bet in spades if we made it.   It’s funny u act like I’m wrong but won’t make a friendly bet 🤣. I’m busting ur balls, I appreciate ya.    Just don’t understand how u sact like I’m  wrong when everything points to me being right. It’s not about timing being a little off.  It’s alt scene not repeating it at all.  The signs are clear. It sounds like you just have ur mind stuck on it.  It’s all love brother and I appreciate ya and what u bring to hive.  I just am shocked at the ego while we in April are clearly not breaking 2021 highs in 99% of alt scene anytime this cycle aka next 12 months….
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@hatdogsensei ·
I agree with the conclusion that it would be best to wait and see how will the market would shape in the next coming months
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@sirfx ·
The chart looks like we have reached the floor, and yet am still not certain because the market keeps posting different confusing variables. I think the crypto market has changed, as more manipulative touches are visible since after the ETF play. Now even the government has turned this space to a playground..
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@thehivetuber ·
MEXC wiping your lines twice would be beyond if it happened to me man. It’s one thing to deal with market volatility, but another to fight your own tools. I just hope the redrawn levels hold up this time


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@valued-customer ·
WB!

Thanks!
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