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· @edicted ·
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Trust in a Trustless Environment
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#### Selling the bottom to buy the bottom.
So the APY on staking CUB has dropped to a measly 2.3%.  I had a million CUB sitting in that contract (flex) and the only way to make it higher is to timelock it.  Unfortunately the best yield on a timelock is 12 months (26%), with the lower periods escalating their way to the maximum on a spectrum.  

Doing the napkin math on this I came to realize quite quickly that 26% is more than x10 higher than 2.3%, which means I could just lock 100k CUB for a year (10% of my stack) and that would generate more yield than the million CUB I had in there.  It's a tempting proposition, so I decided to throw 200k in there for a year, currently valued around $3800. I'm so overextended on this token it's pretty funny honestly.  

So then I had 800k to play around with, and I really had a hard time parting with any of it because of the whole 1M CUB unit bias that was feeding the dopamine in my brain. After weeks of flirting with an under the table buyer I finally decided it was time to get back into the LPs. 

I've always wanted to have a CUB/HIVE position and decided now was a good time.  It's an interesting moon-bag LP.  No stable coins here.  My go-to LP used to be CUB/BNB, but honestly I'm kind of over BNB right now with all the crazy stuff going down. Supporting Hive it is. 

There's an added benefit for CUB within the context of pairing the token to HBD or Hive, and that stems from the wrapping fee.  All wrapping fees go into buying and burning CUB, so simply providing liquidity to one of 4 out of 7 of the LPs generates free revenue for the network (anything paired to Hive/HBD). Whenever the difference in price of Hive & bHive is greater than the wrap fee (half a percent) we get forced arbitrage and CUB makes free money.  This seems like the way to go at this point.  Volatility harvesting is an interesting model. 

I emptied my Hive wallet but it wasn't nearly enough.  Had less than $2000 liquid.  Still considering selling some Bitcoin to get some more Hive this way... but honestly that's a tough sell, as liquidating Bitcoin at this juncture is a huge risk that I know I shouldn't take. Yolo? 

![nodeal1000000million.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmVicHjLgrSy6deaDVygW6PLnUuYZU6u8YmGSKdZEp7T1J/no-deal-1000000-million.png)

#### So I took the deal. 
I didn't want to sell any CUB on the market, but my over-the-counter buyer was still motivated.  Sent me 7000 bHive.  That's a new personal record for me, and somewhat the point of this entire post. I've never just had someone send me $2000 worth of naked crypto before and just trust me to pay them back.  I did this quite a few times with value transfers of Steem to Hive during the hostile takeover, but it was for much smaller amounts ($100-$200). 

This just goes to show you that the connections and communities we are building here are strong. Ideally crypto is building a foundation that exists within a trustless environment.  We aren't supposed to need to trust anyone to uphold their end of the bargain, but as it turns out, decentralization is hard, and at these early stages of the game there are plenty of opportunities and shortcuts presented to us that absolutely do rely on trust. 

In fact, no matter how decentralized and "trustless" crypto gets, the foundation will always be one of trust.  We are simply outsourcing that trust from an individual we are doing business with to the network itself.  Theoretically the network can be untrustworthy, but this is exponentially less likely. 

Even if I wanted to steal $2000 that someone had given me for a trade, it's actually quite impossible to do so profitably.  I can't throw away my reputation on Hive for $2000, as my rep is worth much much more than that. At this point it's impossible to measure how much it is worth, but it's a lot.  Who knows where Hive will be ten years from now?  The reputation of my account could very well be worth more than the literal dollar value associated with my crypto holdings. 

![image.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmUZ785vATDHJNpv9aN9ic41wGoKWFopR6imVABECxUBed/image.png)

So I paired the 7000 bHive to 105,000 CUB in the LP, and sent 105,000 CUB to the trader for the 7000 bHive.  Simple.  Although now I have less than 800k CUB instead of 1M.  Very sad.  On top of that I still have half a million CUB just sitting around waiting to be thrown into an LP or locked for a year.  It's quite likely I'll need to trade even more for Hive in order to get it into a place that actually generates yield and has a positive benefit to the network and myself.

#### Selling the bottom to buy the bottom.
So I've essentially sold CUB at the bottom, but at the same time I traded it into Hive sub 30 cents, which is just absurd considering how high we were flying during the bull market. I may use this stack to justify offsetting funds elsewhere.  I still need to buy some Bitcoin back that I sold during the Binance FUD. Or maybe I don't.  I guess it all depends if alts do okay during 2023, so who knows. 

#### Conclusion
No one likes to sell the bottom, but what if you're selling the bottom to buy another bottom?  Such is the state of things when trading one crypto for another within a connected market.  It gets even weirder in this particular situation because selling an asset can ultimately lead to higher liquidity and a higher price over time.  Quite odd indeed. 

The world is in a crazy place right now, and trust is in short supply.  Luckily, trust is the primary asset that crypto deals in. We can always trust the ledger because the ledger is being confirmed worldwide by many nodes worldwide, all operated by users who have an incentive to stay honest.  In the event that we need to trust an individual that often works out too and we meet some amazing people along the way, just remember that it might not always work out in the end. 

Within this context, we see how Hive is once again way ahead of the curve in terms of the apathy and malice we see on other networks.  On a social level, communities like Bitcoin and Ethereum are completely fractured and the waters are full of hungry bloodthirsty sharks.  Most do not even get warning of who the sharks are or what they are doing, and if they do it's on WEB2 social media. Hive is intrinsically more connected than that.  Love to see it. 

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@acesontop ·
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I was once sent mistakenly some HIVE or HBD by someone, I don't remember the name exactly and without checking my wallet I sent all I had in it to Binance the girl freaked out, she though that her funds were gone forever, and wrote a few posts about it and started commenting and when I saw the mess I sent her back her coins, but I get your point. Trust in a trustless environment. I still have the dream that someone accidentally sends me millions in BTC. I wouldn't return shit :))  
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@dagger212 ·
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RE: Trust in a Trustless Environment
One of the bright spots of "selling the bottom to buy the bottom" on Hive is at least you don't get crushed on transaction fees.  It wasn't too long ago when doing anything with the ERCs or Bitcoin took a nice big bite when repositioning at the bottom.  BSC isn't as good as Hive, obviously, but it's not bad.

I did something similar a few weeks back with polycub where I moved some over to CUB instead. Since they're "fixing" that one first, I figured I might as well get on board that one.  Funny, most of my polyCUB came from CUB in the first place. I've just been playing Plinko all the way down.  lol  

We'll let it sit for a while now.  There's really no place to go but up... :-)

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@manniman ·
That's a good move, Bottom2Bottom seems irrelevant. From here on out, up-and-to-the-right.
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@p1k4ppa10 ·
I too perceive the trust in this community; I believe that for Hive this is the added value and the thing that will bring our ecosystem to the top.

Outside, whether we are talking about crypto or something else, the world is split and divided and no one trusts others; finding trust on Hive is a change in every way.

I am sure that great things are on the horizon!
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@poshtoken · (edited)
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@rzc24-nftbbg ·
RE: Trust in a Trustless Environment
> We can always trust the ledger because the ledger is being confirmed worldwide by many nodes worldwide, all operated by users who have the incentive to stay honest.

This summarizes the whole article for me. 

Impressed with that 200k locked CUB!



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@stayoutoftherz · (edited)
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You stacked 1M CUB? Ouch, what was your average? Or were those all compounding earnings?
Anyway, the upside potential is way higher with Hive, plus while staking it getยดs you the 12% per year along. So why waste your time with CUB? This token is created out of thin air and thin air is where it will eventually go.

On another note, I noticed that you have some votes left for witnesses. If you could consider voting for me, I would really appreciate it! I am fully dedicated to Hive, never powered down a Hive, curate manually a lot, and thrive for more decentralization of our favorite blockchain. Thanks!
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@edicted ·
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Hmmm yeah it's not as bad as you think I bought most of it at 2 cents, and a lot of the money I used came from degen gambling on polycub and exiting early. 
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@steemychicken1 ·
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Sometimes it's hard to comprehend the amount of trust that it's build in that community and in crypto as a hole. I have done my share of deal with big amounts of money and i was never let down. And i can't say the same for my everyday life and people that i know personally.
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@tobetada ·
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this whole (p)cub thing has a really sour taste for me and I imagine 99% of people came into contact with it. But at least the team has been getting on track again with focusing on leo and the hive bridge. Really wondering where cub will be during a bull market - I will probably be buying the top again :)
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@valued-customer ·
>"LP's"

Liquidity Plays?  Leveraged Principals?  Lucky Prostitutes?  What, pray tell, is an LP (for an ignorant non-trader like me)?

143K is very impressive, particularly for someone that occasionally rants about Crystal Girls or Blood Moons as investment criteria.  Frankly, you've smacked my gob with your inexplicable competence.

I recollect your good faith during the exodus from Steem, and I remain grateful, even if my gratitude isn't still paying financial dividends it did in the past.  Good people do good, and I will not forget you have proved you are good people.

Thanks!
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@zaibkang ·
Sr why do you not engaged with Hive users Onchain? 
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@edicted ·
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@zaibkang ·
I mean not replying comments not giving upvotes, you are only just published post that's what I feel because I don't see any upvote giving by you on any post or any comment from you? 
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